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Old 06-11-2014, 03:46 PM
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I know the air keeps the valve from falling into the cylinder, but how do you push down the springs to take the keepers off? Those pliers? Is it a headache to push them
Down and place the half circle pieces in place?
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This youtube video pretty much shows how it works (reviews a similar tool):


The pliers are only used for the valve stem seals.

Seriously, it was easy. First one was intimidating, but by the time I got to #16 I was doing a complete seal replacement in about 3 minutes while drinking beer. While I'm disappointed my repair didn't fix the actual problem, I'm glad I've got this cool tool that really works for future jobs.
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Originally Posted by hornetball
I used compressed air to keep the valves in place. Tools used listed in prior post.

In your case, you should really eliminate the possibility that your CHRA is leaking first. As mentioned in the other thread, inspect the intake piping leading to the intercooler and also the downpipe for signs of oil.
Well I just tried the same test you did- create high vacuum, cruise with no throttle, then punch the throttle, and got a large backfire with obvious smoke in the rear view. So at this point, I'm in the same boat as you in thinking that it's the oil control rings.
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Originally Posted by hornetball
Xidas with 700/400 springs are really comfortable, even on less than smooth roads.
I thought we had smooth roads here in town? What a joke it has become
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Utah road construction consists of giving the job to the lowest(shittiest) bidder and making an OK road a terrible road.

Some day, when I'm baller, I'll get the Xidas. So nice.
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I thought we had smooth roads here in town? What a joke it has become
Took it to Mineral Wells on back roads. It was awesome.
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Originally Posted by hornetball
Took it to Mineral Wells on back roads. It was awesome.
I drove back through Mineral Wells from Dallas last weekend. It is the longer way home, but it is some absolutely gorgeous scenery. I just used the highway, but I bet there are some fun back roads!
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Originally Posted by Chilicharger665
I drove back through Mineral Wells from Dallas last weekend. It is the longer way home, but it is some absolutely gorgeous scenery. I just used the highway, but I bet there are some fun back roads!
You have to tell me in advance so we can schedule in some track fun.

I live in Granbury and work in Mineral Wells. I know all the back roads . . . and they are fun (and empty).
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went through both your build threads last night. Thanks for posting them up, I laughed, I cried, I learned some things... Enjoyable posts and great builds.

I'm building up a car that is similar to your red car and stealing emilio's formula as well. Looking forward to seeing your results with this thing.

Thanks.
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Mounted the Xidas and went with no additional setup. I was at ~4"F and 4.25"R to the pinch welds.

Did a personal best 2:41 on MSR-Cs 3.1. It's in the video. I caught two laps, the 2:41 and the lap after. The second lap was faster by about a half second, but I threw it away at the end and did some Rallycross. Xidas make excellent off-road shocks BTW. LOL.


Pulling the engine today for rings. Tired of feeding it oil.
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Just finished lurking through this thread. Great build! Also just wondering if you have already sold the Koni/GC + FM combo? I'd like to buy a pair of the FM top hats from you if still available. Would you mind PMing me? (no post, no PM limitation on my end) Thanks.
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Any update on your progress? My oil consumption is starting to get worse and I'm hoping the rings do it for you so I can start mine!
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Machine shop should start on the engines tomorrow. Hopefully will have the engine for the Red car finished by July 4 so I can drop it in over the holiday weekend.
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Who did you take your engines to, Rick? And for what reason? (What all is being done)
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Giving Automotive Machine and Supply in Ft. Worth a try.

For the Red car, just fixing the oil consumption and doing whatever machining is needed for an MLS headgasket to seal. Might do 11:1 Supertechs.

On the Silver car, tearing it down to see what happened to #2. Also, want to do an MLS headgasket and ARP head studs on that one. I've been having headgasket issues with the OEM composite gasket on track. Might do 8.6:1 Supertechs there too.

Donnie's still shopless.
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Not a whole lot to report. Machine shop finally got the 1.8 torn down last Thursday. They didn't really see a lot wrong, but noted that the honing marks were steep (like 45°). They suspect that plus the headgasket blowing early in life and the low tension rings (Total Seal brand) kept the rings from seating.

I hope they'll finish the engine this coming week. They're a good two weeks behind what they told me schedule-wise.
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Just curious, did you ever perform a leakdown test? Bringing my car in tomorrow to see if the leakdown test points to anything.

My oil consumption has gotten TERRIBLE. Took a 6 hour (350 mile~) drive after an oil change and by the end, the dipstick wasn't even registering any oil. Much more of a burning oil smell on decel with high vacuum than before. Ugh. Really curious to see what they say, and what ultimately fixes it.
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No leakdown. Did do a compression test. It was pretty even. Then I swapped out the valve guide seals (pretty inexpensive and easy with that trick tool). Since that didn't take care of it, I pulled the engine and took it in for rebuild. Will post up more if they uncover anything.
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Here's what the head looks like:



Black and oily, a lot of buildup. This is a 4,000 mile motor.

Pistons were in generally good shape, but the tops were black and crunchy.

No sign of det or overstress.

We're keeping the rebuild simple. Re-hone to get the correct crosshatch angle, new rings and bearings, ARP head studs and rod bolts, tri-coat the pistons and put it back together with OEM gaskets. The Mazdaspeed discount saved me $70 on the gasket set! Mazda OEM wasn't much more expensive than the Chinese junk that I refused to use.

Should be back in action soon!
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I should get the engine in time to install next weekend. Excite!

One thing I haven't been happy with was my oil cooling. The water cooling was perfect. It would go to 190 and just stay there. But the oil temps would get up to 250-270 during a track session. Because of where I located my temp sensor (in the sandwich plate), I suspect that I'm reading ~10-20 degrees warmer than a sensor in the oil pan. But still, I'd like to see those temps lower, maybe 220-230.

So, I'm going to try a different oil cooler. I bought a Canton Racing 23-520. This is a stacked-plate design rated at 29,200 BTU/hr. Jegs and Summit sell it for about $125 (see Canton Racing Products 23-520 Canton Racing Oil Coolers - Free Shipping on All Orders @ JEGS). It is replacing the Hayden 1233 headered tube-fin cooler that is rated at 7,300 BTU/hr (see http://www.haydenauto.com/upload/Hay...il_Coolers.pdf). So, nearly 4x the cooling.

The dimensions of the replacement cooler are similar so I was able to re-use the radiator mounts I fabricated earlier. Some pics:






Will post up results of this swap once I'm back on track.

These pics are for Curly. This is how the RTV'd-fiberglass has held up after ~30 sessions (including some high-speed 4 wheeling -- see end of post #270). Other than being dusty, looks the same as the day it was laid.




Other than mounting the oil cooler, I spent the better part of today cleaning grass and grasshopers out of the radiator fins. LOL.
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