Notices
Build Threads Building a motor? Post the progress here.

ITT we discuss why not to turbo your daily bent rod

Old Jun 20, 2015 | 08:58 AM
  #161  
Rallas's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,176
Total Cats: 36
From: Lexington SC
Default

Is is clean water or coolant? Might be heater core leaking.
Old Jun 21, 2015 | 04:14 PM
  #162  
Schuyler's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,332
Total Cats: 87
From: Columbia, SC
Default

Originally Posted by relte
Is is clean water or coolant? Might be heater core leaking.
Certainly not clean water, but that probably has something to do with how long it's been since I cleaned the carpets. Doesn't seem to be coolant though.

Also got a huge storm the other day and the car stayed dry. idk...................


Sidenote: If I was going to run E85:

Should I just swap the pump and a 1:1 NA FPR? Or should I spend the extra moonies on an aftermarket FPR? The first route would make switching to E85 like 50% cheaper.
Old Jun 22, 2015 | 08:20 AM
  #163  
Schuyler's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,332
Total Cats: 87
From: Columbia, SC
Default

It is also worth noting that I am considering water/meth instead of E85. At this point with the car, I really won't see the added benefits of running E85, as I am so close to the "safe" limits of the motor and trans. Decreased knock ceiling would be about it. I could however, benefit from the cooler IATs I could get from running water/meth. With my IATs up about 30 degrees more than they were when I first started with the car due to rising ambient temperature, you can definitely notice a difference in the way the car feels. My friend who runs water/meth in his car has been super pleased with it, but it switching to E85 as he is making the power for it to be a more viable option. Looking at his logs though, it is interesting to see what he passes 15psi (where it is set in MS) the IATs drop below ambient. This would also cost ~1/2 the price of setting my car up for E85. Curious to get input from people here.
Old Jun 22, 2015 | 02:12 PM
  #164  
Schuyler's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,332
Total Cats: 87
From: Columbia, SC
Default

Also pictures from the track day, courtesy of Katie McCarthy:

I don't recall locking that wheel up, so it must have not lasted long. The r-comp tire wasn't flat spotted or anything, which surprised me a little bit after seeing the picture.

Anywho, enjoy the body roll! I'm accepting Xida donations :P












Attached Thumbnails ITT we discuss why not to turbo your daily bent rod-80-dscn0558_564ad9809c3ddf10d38ac3690185499d0e00580e.jpg   ITT we discuss why not to turbo your daily bent rod-80-dscn0549_23286bb851f9e15ff647c9c20122c26fbaf2f6b8.jpg   ITT we discuss why not to turbo your daily bent rod-80-dscn0549_1_cb43cd24c622b0088b494c1d7b8d669594688617.jpg   ITT we discuss why not to turbo your daily bent rod-80-dscn0557_d8d18876fd59cd7d43165d2b2ffeb9d136e67064.jpg  
Old Jun 25, 2015 | 09:39 AM
  #165  
Schuyler's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,332
Total Cats: 87
From: Columbia, SC
Default

The undertray just is not going to fit. First, there are no front mounting points since the airdam up there also doesn't fit. Second, 2 of the side plastic tabs wouldn't be useable no matter how much material you cut out to try and make them fit.

Guess I'm going to have to try and make something. Bleh.
Old Jun 25, 2015 | 09:42 AM
  #166  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,643
Total Cats: 1,870
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

<p>I'll take pictures of how I made my own air damn thingy and also how I made the undertray fit. Might help you.</p>
Old Jun 25, 2015 | 09:44 AM
  #167  
Schuyler's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,332
Total Cats: 87
From: Columbia, SC
Default

Originally Posted by aidandj
<p>I'll take pictures of how I made my own air damn thingy and also how I made the undertray fit. Might help you.</p>
That would be greatly appreciated, thanks. The current plan would be to try and mimic what GeneSplicer had going on. I'm certainly open to as many ideas as possible though.

Attached Thumbnails ITT we discuss why not to turbo your daily bent rod-dscn0809.jpg  
Old Jun 25, 2015 | 09:46 AM
  #168  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,643
Total Cats: 1,870
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

<p>I have a sheet of ABS bolted to the bumper and the intercooler. Then the undertray attaches to that. It might be in my build thread somewhere. (starts searching through 87 pages)</p>
Old Jun 25, 2015 | 09:46 AM
  #169  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,643
Total Cats: 1,870
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

<p>Yeah, tub liner will be my next addition too.</p>
Old Jun 25, 2015 | 09:48 AM
  #170  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,643
Total Cats: 1,870
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

<p><img src="http://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.miataturbo.net-vbulletin/320x180/80-139742_1990_cheap_beat_full_mistakes_build_31gxxoh m_82ce63c41374da756b59f05588078ed9b625d394.jpg" title="" /><br /><br />&nbsp;</p>
Old Jun 26, 2015 | 12:32 AM
  #171  
Schuyler's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,332
Total Cats: 87
From: Columbia, SC
Default

Motor just went on my way home tonight. More details to come I guess.
Old Jun 26, 2015 | 12:34 AM
  #172  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,643
Total Cats: 1,870
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

<p>Nooooo. How sure are you?</p>
Old Jun 26, 2015 | 12:35 AM
  #173  
Schuyler's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,332
Total Cats: 87
From: Columbia, SC
Default

Originally Posted by aidandj
<p>Nooooo. How sure are you?</p>
Knock at idle. I'm sure.

"tat tat tat tat tat tat tat tat"
Old Jun 26, 2015 | 12:56 AM
  #174  
18psi's Avatar
VladiTuned
iTrader: (76)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 35,821
Total Cats: 3,482
Default

Really sorry about your motor

Originally Posted by Schuyler
Looking at his logs though, it is interesting to see what he passes 15psi (where it is set in MS) the IATs drop below ambient.
I still cannot comprehend this. A turbo heats up the air so much when in boost, that dipping BELOW ambient WHILE passing 15psi is something I've never, ever, seen legitimately.
Old Jun 26, 2015 | 01:48 AM
  #175  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,643
Total Cats: 1,870
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

<p>
Originally Posted by 18psi
Really sorry about your motor I still cannot comprehend this. A turbo heats up the air so much when in boost, that dipping BELOW ambient WHILE passing 15psi is something I've never, ever, seen legitimately.
</p><p>His water/meth works just that well?</p>
Old Jun 26, 2015 | 11:19 AM
  #176  
Schuyler's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,332
Total Cats: 87
From: Columbia, SC
Default

I could get a log, it just won't prove much since we won't know what ambient is at the time.

I'm going to go get a VVT motor tomorrow morning if it's still in the junk yard. $400 band aid for the time being. The VIN doesn't match so it isn't the stock motor from the car, no clue how many miles are on it. The body had almost 200k.

Then i'll break down the 99 motor and see what failed. Good thing I just got a free engine stand! Assess the damage, go from there. I know nothing about machine work pricing, so some estimates anyone can give me would be nice once I can post what the damage is like. If I am right in assuming a bearing spun, the crank would have to get turned. Hopefully the cylinder walls are good.
Old Jun 26, 2015 | 11:24 AM
  #177  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,643
Total Cats: 1,870
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

<p>$400 VVT...wtf you lucky bastard.</p>
Old Jun 26, 2015 | 12:11 PM
  #178  
turbofan's Avatar
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,146
Total Cats: 1,087
From: Lake Forest, CA
Default

You're one to talk.
__________________
Ed@949Racing/Supermiata
www.949racing.com
Old Jun 26, 2015 | 12:13 PM
  #179  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,643
Total Cats: 1,870
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

<p>You've seen how crushed my engine is.</p><p>Does that VVT have a 6 speed on it? That would be awesome.</p>
Old Jun 26, 2015 | 12:24 PM
  #180  
Rallas's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,176
Total Cats: 36
From: Lexington SC
Default

That sucks! Sorry to hear that. The NAPA machine shop right off of I-26 and 302 (airport road store) does great work. I have been using them for all my machine work over te last 10 years. I will have to go back and look at what they charged me for cleaning and checking everything, 3 angle valve job, bore, skim the head, but I did all assembly work myself. I want to say it was $300-400 back in 2010

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:30 PM.