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Old 08-07-2017, 08:33 AM
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That really sucks. I heard about this wreck from the at fault driver but I didn't realize the other miata was an mt.net member.
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Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
Looking forward to your resurrection build!!
Absolutely, I think I am going to just use my motor and such and transplant it into a nice miata. I want to have a car that is quiet and clean on the inside. Should I keep it in this thread or start a new one?
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It doesn't look bad from the top. Probably needs a subframe but that's not that big a deal. Snap a pic from underneath.
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Bryan feels super bad about the whole thing. We dropped his car off at his house late last night.

I was pretty bummed to hear about it. I had seen your car here and there the whole weekend, just didn't get a chance to come and say hi. We were fighting mechanical issues a lot of the time.
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I heard about the accident but had no idea it was you and your build, though Ryan tried to explain to me who it was. Perhaps a subframe and some V8R control arms might make it mostly right.
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Originally Posted by Savington
It doesn't look bad from the top. Probably needs a subframe but that's not that big a deal. Snap a pic from underneath.
I could fix it, the subframe is easy. But the frame rails are completely flattened from how the town truck loaded it on my trailer. So that could really be a mess to deal with.

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Bryan feels super bad about the whole thing. We dropped his car off at his house late last night.

I was pretty bummed to hear about it. I had seen your car here and there the whole weekend, just didn't get a chance to come and say hi. We were fighting mechanical issues a lot of the time.
Yeah I feel bad about the whole thing. I know Bryan really loved his car too. The situation sucks. I'm just glad no one was hurt. It could have been much worse.

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I heard about the accident but had no idea it was you and your build, though Ryan tried to explain to me who it was. Perhaps a subframe and some V8R control arms might make it mostly right.
This is just an excuse for me to get a clean title car. My car had a salvage title and was full of rattles and such. I guess it just goes to show your car is never done haha


I was hoping to get everyone from mt.net together for a pic but this kinda derailed it. I did get to bludgeon the dragon with my Sequioa, I'll get the video on here tonight. It is hilarious. I actually kept up with a miata group lol, they must have been on a Sunday stroll because that should've happened. 149 photos got a pic of me tucking tire going around a corner, I've never seen a sequoia do that.
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Big thanks to sixshooter for the decals, this literally made my day. I feel part of the community now



Here are some sweet pics from Killboy, I don't remember everyone's names I was with but we had a blast. Going up the dragon it was dry and we were going pretty quick, then it started raining on us. That was pretty scary, thankfully my turbo doesn't spool fast.




I've been kinda down about the whole car thing, I'm still on the fence about swapping bodies. Does anyone have experience with extensive frame damage? The big thing is I want a quiet ride, can I just throw frame guards on it and expect it to be good? I hate all the little rattles and such. I'm heavily considering doing a full v8 roadster suspension....
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Don't just about all these cars have some sort of rattles? I've never been in one that hasn't rattled a little bit. If you can find where the rattles are coming from, you can always use some sound deadening in those regions. Or just turn the volume up!

Has insurance gotten back to you?

I think swapping everything over to a new frame will be a ton of work, depending on what all you're trying to sort out. Depending on the frame damage, you may be able to have it aligned again, but that really depends on what the damage was and if the offending parts can be swapped easily or pulled back into place. And it depends on what insurance is going to give you slash what you'd buy it back for.
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
Don't just about all these cars have some sort of rattles? I've never been in one that hasn't rattled a little bit. If you can find where the rattles are coming from, you can always use some sound deadening in those regions. Or just turn the volume up!

Has insurance gotten back to you?

I think swapping everything over to a new frame will be a ton of work, depending on what all you're trying to sort out. Depending on the frame damage, you may be able to have it aligned again, but that really depends on what the damage was and if the offending parts can be swapped easily or pulled back into place. And it depends on what insurance is going to give you slash what you'd buy it back for.

Yeah I'm use to the rattle fixes. Hell my turbo is so loud I could just step on it. I think psyber_0ptix can attest to that.

I have enough money to do a swap but man its a pain in the but. I've done several at this point and I dread it. I will nickle and dime myself into more debit if I do it. Those "while you're there" sort of things really get me.

I forgot I never posted the damage, the rails are the only things I question fixing. The frame damage was done by the tow truck.










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Old 08-14-2017, 10:48 PM
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I suspect that if you hammer out those frame rails and add one of the reinforcement kits out there (https://www.flyinmiata.com/fm-frame-...ement-kit.html) it'll be fine.

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I second the, should be fine, a new subframe if you should be just as straight as like 90% of miatas out there anyways.
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If the car gets a thumbs up for frame alignment, then those frame rails should be all you need. You'll gain more chassis stiffness in the process as well.

I'd definitely have the frame alignment checked out by a reputable shop first.

Is the towing company taking any responsibility or does their rider basically render them immune?

Also, don't abandon your car if this isn't a huge hit. It's already got a salvage title right? Just ******* send it bro.

(Sorry, had to...)
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche
Just ******* send it bro.

(Sorry, had to...)
Gha the internet is full of everything.

Yeah I think I'm just going to have by body guy check the frame alignment then just toss a butterfly brace on. I'll get the body fixed too. A rear cradle is on the way.
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Weld in square stock in place of the crushed frame rails. I am still skeptical of the actual stiffening offered by "frame rail" covers even though I run them myself.

https://www.miataturbo.net/race-prep...olution-70950/
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The difference in my car when i installed the reinforcements was not subtle. After i was done, it felt stiffer WITHOUT the factory hardtop bolted on than it did before without reinforcements and top bolted on.

Plus they make dandy jack points without crushing the garbage Miata pinch welds.
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Those frame rails looks better than mine, and my car has never been wrecked! I vote repair, just make sure to find a good body guy who likes to work with metal not bondo.
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Rover's frame rails are 10x uglier than that. Too many dropped wheels and laying the frame rail flat on kerbs over the years. Hammer them in and stick a set of frame rail braces on there. They aren't structural.
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Old 08-15-2017, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan_G
That really sucks. I heard about this wreck from the at fault driver but I didn't realize the other miata was an mt.net member.
Technically, so was the at fault driver (that'd be me). I lurk here and don't post much at all.
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Bryan feels super bad about the whole thing. We dropped his car off at his house late last night.
FWIW: I do feel absolutely horrible about how it went down as Ben pointed out. Literally my first accident ever. It was almost impossible for me to get food down for a while (Ben will tell you I'm a bit high-strung when I'm not worried about something...). It was pretty embarrassing on my part.

Glad to see insurance took care of you, and good luck on the rebuild. Hopefully we'll meet next year at MATG under better circumstances! I'm planning to buy mine back and rebuild as well. Laser Blues are almost impossible to replace (not to get all M.net in here, but unless you're willing to repaint, they really are), and I have too much time invested to just move on.
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Originally Posted by Bryan
Glad to see insurance took care of you, and good luck on the rebuild. Hopefully we'll meet next year at MATG under better circumstances! I'm planning to buy mine back and rebuild as well. Laser Blues are almost impossible to replace (not to get all M.net in here, but unless you're willing to repaint, they really are), and I have too much time invested to just move on.
I most def will be at the next MATG. We need a redemption run. I'm most glad no one got hurt. We will both bounce back from it I am sure. If it were't for the wreck I wouldn't have gotten to run the dragon in my sequoia! Even with this highs and lows, for me it was a good trip. I can't tell you guys how many different excel sheets I'm running. I'm such a nerd. I've rebuilt this car several different ways on paper.
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I totally get it. I've "rebuilt" mine several times already and I haven't even finished negotiating value with insurance to get it back
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