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EO2K 09-26-2016 01:23 PM

I think I've got about 5' of 5/8" fuel line somewhere in the garage. I'll probably just throw that on the return at the regulator and jump the pins in the diagnostic box and let the pump do the hard work for me. What could possibly go wrong?

The only remaining question is where to put the old fuel. I'm sure it'll mix well with the CA87 in the wifes Escape :giggle:

aidandj 09-26-2016 01:24 PM

Put it in the pickup

EO2K 09-26-2016 01:34 PM

Rear tank on the pickup is full, front tank I've been trying to empty so I can drop it and fix the sender so while the truck burns obscene amounts of fuel, its not an option right now.

That means wife's Escape or the WRX.

EO2K 09-26-2016 01:35 PM

Oo, or my brothers Toyota pickup! I'm sure he's down for free gas. :giggle:

18psi 09-26-2016 01:36 PM

don't pick WRX.

and really, ignore these guys talking about upgrades. I just want you to fix the silly stem seals you don't keep pooping up your pretty block and possibly ingesting a bunch of oil into the cylinders.

Monk 09-26-2016 01:43 PM

Yes. Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.


Move here and spend all of your money on race car things and beer.

aidandj 09-26-2016 01:46 PM

Hey now, all I mentioned were seats and harnesses. Which is pretty reasonable for a track car with a shit ton of power.

18psi 09-26-2016 01:52 PM

bro, you're just not on his level.
stock seats, seat belts, 1 hand on the wheel and sippin a caramel machiatto from the other

#trackday

(bunny slippers too)

codrus 09-26-2016 01:53 PM

G is waiting until I get around to replacing my out-of-spec seats. :)

--Ian

aidandj 09-26-2016 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1363504)
bro, you're just not on his level.
stock seats, seat belts, 1 hand on the wheel and sippin a caramel machiatto from the other

#trackday

(bunny slippers too)

Have you bought marcellos hot laps yet?

18psi 09-26-2016 02:10 PM

Nope. Only thing I'll be hot lappin is Gesso's ExoFish, and likely off track on some back roads or something.

someone give that man an mbc so we can run more boost than an average male fart :giggle:

aidandj 09-26-2016 02:11 PM

I've got a couple spare EBC solenoids kicking around.

18psi 09-26-2016 02:16 PM

I dunno how well ms2 handles ebc. It should work fine, but all the EBC's I've tuned were with ms3+

But you should bring ALLTHEBOOST parts anyway :)

aidandj 09-26-2016 02:17 PM

Open loop takes like 2 minutes to setup. I'll throw it in my box.

leboeuf 09-26-2016 02:18 PM

What do you do as a profession for realzies?
The promise land is always hiring. It's not quite as cheap as the mid west, but we have mountains and awesome stuff.
I think I saw somewhere you were going to defcon?
Masters degree? PM me if you'd like.

EO2K 09-26-2016 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1363496)
don't pick WRX.

My supervisor just traded in his Audi S4 and bought his wife a Land Rover so he is stuck driving his 2wd 91 Chevy S10 until he picks out a replacement vehicle for himself. We've decided its the perfect recipient :giggle:


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1363496)
I just want you to fix the silly stem seals you don't keep pooping up your pretty block and possibly ingesting a bunch of oil into the cylinders.

I'm trying to figure out if I want to leave it alone or try to swap them on on THURSDAY before MRLS. I fucking HATE removing the timing belt on the Miata, I always feel like I'm going to screw it up. I also fear making changes before trackdays.


Originally Posted by codrus (Post 1363505)
G is waiting until I get around to replacing my out-of-spec seats. :)

#jokingnotjoking

I do seriously like that Pole Position. I would have bought one of the revised Pole Position NGs already if I could find somewhere semi local that has them in stock so I can see if I fit in them. What I REALLY want are Andy's Memoryfab S58 seats (or was it S68?) but those things have been out of production for probably a decade now. :(

18psi 09-26-2016 02:28 PM

Making major changes to your cars the night before track day is a tradition that you and Geoff MUST uphold.
Don't break traditions myeaw

EO2K 09-26-2016 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1363519)
someone give that man an mbc so we can run more boost than an average male fart :giggle:

@gesso, order this: https://www.amazon.com/Hallman-PRO-R...dp/B00IFWMQLG/ It's Prime so it'll be at your place on like Wednesday, and you can order the fancy in cabin cable like Andy at some point later.

EO2K 09-26-2016 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Monk (Post 1363498)
Yes. Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.
Move here and spend all of your money on race car things and beer.

I got really drunk and seriously considered it, not necessarily in that order. I know literally nothing about Nebraska I've never lived anywhere but California my entire life.

Monk 09-26-2016 02:38 PM

Nebraska sucks. It is Unholy hell.
Indiana is a much nicer state.

aidandj 09-26-2016 02:39 PM

I was just in the panhandle 2 weeks ago. I kinda liked it.

I can see the rest of nebraska sucking though.

EO2K 09-26-2016 02:44 PM

Sorry Monk! I intended to type Indiana but my fingers decided Nebraska for some reason, my heartfelt apologies.

gesso 09-26-2016 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1363532)
Making major changes to your cars the night before track day is a tradition that you and Geoff MUST uphold.
Don't break traditions myeaw

Radiator ducting and wiring the wastegate open are my major plans for Thursday/Friday. I've got a clutch that could go in though...


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1363533)
@gesso, order this: https://www.amazon.com/Hallman-PRO-R...dp/B00IFWMQLG/ It's Prime so it'll be at your place on like Wednesday, and you can order the fancy in cabin cable like Andy at some point later.

But, but, EBC? I meant to order a MAC solenoid already, but you know, life and such. I have a hard time just finding the time to drive the car and log so Vlad can make fun of my tune and driving style.

EO2K 09-26-2016 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by gesso (Post 1363548)
But, but, EBC?

Who says you can't have an EBC? Put the MBC on the thing for when the EBC is powered down ;)

Wastegate/MBC -> EBC SomeOfIt -> EBC AllOfIt


Originally Posted by gesso (Post 1363548)
I've got a clutch that could go in though...

I've got Thursday and Friday off. Want to try to do a set of valve stem seals and a clutch in one day? :giggle:

Monk 09-26-2016 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1363545)
Sorry Monk! I intended to type Indiana but my fingers decided Nebraska for some reason, my heartfelt apologies.

Haha, No offense taken.
I've been to all 50 states, and Nebraska ranks #50 for me.
There are a few states I like more than Indiana, but not many compete with the cost of living and near total absence of government intrusion in everyday living.
Plus, with the money you save on living expenses, you can afford legitimate vacations.

18psi 09-26-2016 03:06 PM

why would you wire the wg open? clutch slippin or something?

shuiend 09-26-2016 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1363553)
why would you wire the wg open? clutch slippin or something?

Because

https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthrea...21944-09_1.JPG

18psi 09-26-2016 03:25 PM

Ok hustler, lets see dem MKn/a setups then :magna: :D

gesso 09-26-2016 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1363553)
why would you wire the wg open? clutch slippin or something?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2spky.gif
I have a history of breaking the car at this event...

I am mostly kidding, but I may wire it open when Gabby's driving(if she wants).


Originally Posted by EO2k
...offer to help with clutch...

I'm happy to help you with valve stem seals if you actually wanna fix em, but I think I'll hold off on the clutch until afterwards. Lemme know?

turbofan 09-26-2016 04:30 PM

I love the rambling that happens in this thread. Somehow more entertaining than the rambling that happens elsewhere.

I might have an MBC somewhere in my garage. Pretty sure I do. If I remember, I'll look tonight.

I hear you on the housing thing, though things aren't as ridiculous here as they are there.

EO2K 09-26-2016 04:30 PM

Gesso, you have a history of breaking this car at this track :noes:

Dunno if I want to drive up to the BA to do just stem seals. I sat here and realized I was pretty sure the seals are in your garage and the tools are in mine :facepalm:

codrus 09-26-2016 05:06 PM

[QUOTE=gesso;1363563
I have a history of breaking the car at this event...
[/QUOTE]

My history at Miatas@MRLS is:

2009: lost a coolant hose on-track Saturday. Meatball flag, fill it back up, steaming out the tailpipe. Goes home on a tow truck with suspected HG failure. Ultimately leads to building the motor the first time.
2010: new built motor runs well on Saturday, but I was rained out on Sunday.
2011: no event held
2012: Built motor grenades 3rd gear on the 5-speed, car goes home on the trailer.
2013: Car runs OK, but not run all that hard due to rain.
2014: Throttle body screw lets loose, trashes motor & turbo.
2015: Car runs well.

So out of 6 events I've had major failures at half of them, limited running in 2 of them due to rain, and only one has really been flawless.

Hoping to make it 2 flawless ones next weekend! I just hope the truck makes it...

--Ian

aidandj 09-26-2016 05:08 PM

Ummm, Ian. I hope you noticed the pattern...

codrus 09-26-2016 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1363586)
Ummm, Ian. I hope you noticed the pattern...

:)

The optimistic view is that the pattern is "the car would have broken every year except for the two that it rained and I didn't get to drive it hard enough", and that last year marked a new beginning. :)

--Ian

EO2K 09-26-2016 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1363575)
I hear you on the housing thing, though things aren't as ridiculous here as they are there.

Shits brutal. It makes me feel trapped and I don't like it at all.

18psi 09-26-2016 06:16 PM

Buddy of mine that I often visit lives in Santa Cruz. Same story. Insane-o

Luckily he rents from his father in law, so gets the most insane deal in the universe (14 acre property literally next door to mystery spot, for what you'd pay for a 1 bedroom ghetto apartment)

The people that live here and commute to bay, are the people that own mansions here.

miata2fast 09-26-2016 07:06 PM

So, how many chapters do I need to go back before I see pictures of this thing? Lol

EO2K 09-26-2016 07:17 PM

People post car pictures in build threads? :giggle:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...3bcb797ccd.jpg

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...005b0d60ce.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...351f6949cb.jpg

I need to go reshoot these with the 6ULs ;)

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1b8f998324.jpg

EO2K 09-26-2016 07:29 PM

And here is what it looks like underhood when its "clean"

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2327ab6ca4.jpg

Crap, I've got more underhood pictures of Andrew's Silver NB than I do of my own car :rofl:

sonofthehill 09-26-2016 07:40 PM

Take it from a native SF boy who moved away.
Everywhere else sucks. That is why we tolerate the shit here.

codrus 09-26-2016 07:50 PM

So have you got a heat shield for the master cylinder yet?

--Ian

HHammerly 09-26-2016 08:26 PM

I have been in your shoes and did what you are doing, it costs you nothing to park the car and cut unecesary expences until you are back on your feet.
Come to Indiana, we have e85 everywhere and you will have a few tracks nearby to play in, you will also have some disposable income to save for retirenment after plying with the car LOL

zellers88 09-26-2016 08:36 PM

+3 for Indiana. Hope you like looking at corn though.

miata2fast 09-26-2016 08:42 PM

Car looks great. Eventually I will go back in your thread to catch up on your build. I have been away for too long.

EO2K 09-26-2016 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by sonofthehill (Post 1363636)
Take it from a native SF boy who moved away.
Everywhere else sucks. That is why we tolerate the shit here.

Yeah, but I don't make Bay Area money, I still don't understand how people survive up there. And I'm getting tired of tolerating. I have 2 hobbies that the state is openly hostile toward: fun guns and fast cars. I can solve both of these problems by changing the scenery. Right now we (wife and I) are stable and we are putting money in the bank and the only thing that keeps me from moving away is the fear of loosing that stability and our proximity to family, and both of us have commutes under 10 minutes. I am NOT a city boy and never have been, but this state is being pulled down into the abyss of regulation by the prevailing thought processes of the Bay Area and the Los Angles basin. This state is a lot more than just its urban centers. About the only place that feels right to me is extreme Northern California, but the quality of life vs cost of living ratio is all out of whack. I can buy a doublewide in Redding for the cost of a nicely equipped new car, but then I'd live in a doublewide in Redding. (Some parts of Redding are really pretty, its not all bad, its just an example.) Plus both the wife and I would need to find jobs. Other than the university, county/city government or a couple hospitals there is almost zero industry. I'm in Tech/IT and there is almost nothing up there outside those few employers. I very seriously entertained a job in Colorado back in 2006~2007 before that state really started to boom. I was still single and the urge was very strong. Now I have a very different set of skills and competency than I did back then, and I'm not sure what to do with it. I'm also now married. My wife is from Santa Cruz and while its always been a little weird up that way, its gone full retard in the last decade and even she balks at what its become. We both like the rural thing but neither one of us has ever lived more than 10 miles from the coast in our entire lives. (Except when my wife was going to Chico State of course.)

I love this state but I'm coming to the realization that its been an abusive relationship for a while now.


Originally Posted by codrus (Post 1363637)
So have you got a heat shield for the master cylinder yet?

Same clamp-on one I used last year! Though I do need to reposition it a bit, one of the clamps rubs against the steering shaft on hard right hand turns. I just need to rotate it around the pipe and it'll be fine. I should probably add that to the list of things I need to do this week.


Originally Posted by HHammerly (Post 1363648)
I have been in your shoes and did what you are doing, it costs you nothing to park the car and cut unnecessary expenses until you are back on your feet.
Come to Indiana, we have e85 everywhere and you will have a few tracks nearby to play in, you will also have some disposable income to save for retirement after plying with the car LOL

See? Harold gets it. Its a fairly tempting proposition. Though I'm not sure I want to trade earthquakes for baseball sized hail and tornados.

https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpr..._56_years.jpg?

HHammerly 09-26-2016 09:51 PM

In IT you can make 100k + in Indiana (depending on your certiffications) , not sure what your wife does but another 30k or more and you will be very confortable, For Wayne, Bloominghton and the Indianapolis area has many good IT jobs, you can live in a nice 3000 ft 3 car garage 250k - 300k home with a full basement (tornado shelter, you do know when they are near by) in a nice neigborhood for a $1300 -$1500 mortgage payment be 10 mi from work and yes take your vacation and go visit your family in January when is cold and have them visit you here in the sumer.
I know it is hard to pick up and go, leave everithing you know behind, and big changes like that should be well researched, planned and executed when you find the right job etc.
Best of luck to you, you will do fine regardless of where you go if you stay disciplined about your expences etc.

sixshooter 09-26-2016 10:22 PM

You can live and work anywhere. I've lived all over and prefer to have a house paid off and substantially funding my retirement. Some places are better than others, but you have to be happy. Move around some and see some new things. You may be surprised what you might happy with. Move around while you are young and get a feel for different things. That's a luxury of youth.

sonofthehill 09-27-2016 12:15 AM

This is all good advice and I have an old man's perspective.
The only thing is the "visit your family in January" thing. I lived in New England, where it froze solid for a few months a year. Us CA folk don't do so well below 20*F.
20*Fffffff!

sonofthehill 09-27-2016 12:21 AM

If you can just hold out until the next big quake.
Uh oh , too much to drink tonight, better quit before I piss too many people off.

aidandj 09-27-2016 01:01 AM

Far northern California is basically Oregon...

Come to the light side.

Jk don't move up here. We have too many of your kind already.

Efini~FC3S 09-27-2016 09:01 AM

The State of Jefferson is where it's at!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff..._Pacific_state)


I really enjoyed Mt. Shasta the couple times I visited, but no way could I live in Kalifornia, even the "Jefferson" portion...

Girz0r 09-27-2016 09:04 AM

Texas, do eet. (At least visit)

Lot's IT work in Austin, Cota track around the corner as well as harris hill raceway. Coast is... 4 hours away but well worth the scenic drive.

My coworker next to me is from California and vows never to return, says it was completely toxic and is now living in a nice 2 story home with a theater room, pool table etc etc. Getting a lot more for his money.

rleete 09-27-2016 09:27 AM

One word of advice: Don't wait.

Move when you're young, so that if it sucks, you can move again. Doing it when you're in your mid 50's is a hell of a lot tougher, so it's easier just to stay put.

Wish I'd gotten out of NYS 2 decades ago.

sonofthehill 09-27-2016 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1363698)
Far northern California is basically Oregon...

Come to the light side.

Jk don't move up here. We have too many of your kind already.

:rofl:

You don't understand the powah of the Dark side.

aidandj 09-27-2016 11:36 AM

I hate the bay area with a passion.

sonofthehill 09-27-2016 11:43 AM

I understand, SF just isn't what is was when I was a young man. Every time I cross the bridge to visit my mom, I end up cursing at all the idiot drivers, at the very least.
Seriously worst drivers in the nation.
I just can't deal with the cold, but North West cold is more tolerable.

sixshooter 09-27-2016 11:48 AM

My buddy Jamie bought a house (some Miatas at the Lake attendees went there) 3300sq ft on 23 wooded acres with a huge detached shop that holds 10 cars, has hydraulic floor lift, paint booth, and additional covered carports for $58k. He put on a roof, installed a new A/C unit, some wiring, new flooring, cabinets, etc. for about $25k and then had the timber in the back 10 acres harvested for a gain of $18k. Since his house is paid off, he got an easy supervisory job with the county with lots of time off, good benefits, and a pension. Now he builds and sells hot rods for fun.

I guess my point is, don't be a slave to a mortgage unless that's what makes you happy.

My house down here in Florida was under $100k 3/2/1car +detached 1 car garage/workshop stucco/block. It's a newer house in an older neighborhood that has a mix of crummy and nice, but it is all we need. House is paid for and we are funding our retirement. Ryan G bought a large 2 story house with a detached garage with an apartment above it. He's living in the apartment, keeping the garage for himself, and renting out the house for more than the cost of the mortgage payment and his utilities. He's living for free and heavily funding his retirement.

It's all about what you want to do with your life. You only get one of them.
Make yourself happy.
IT jobs are everywhere. See the world.

aidandj 09-27-2016 11:51 AM

Nobody has brought up the school thing yet. Idk if G plans on kids, but me and my fiance do. And in reality school quality is the only thing holding us back from moving out to the boonies. My job is located somewhere that could easily be a 30 minute commute to a cheap house with lots of property, but it has a shitty school system.

Its a really hard balance to find, and something not everyone thinks about.

18psi 09-27-2016 11:57 AM

It's not all bad. But the parts that are bad, are really bad.

There's a reason the area is insanely overpopulated and getting more so each year.

EO2K 09-27-2016 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by HHammerly (Post 1363670)
In IT you can make 100k + in Indiana (depending on your certifications)

That's a whole another topic for later. Because of my diverse environment and the relatively small company I work for with its legacy infrastructure I don't feel I have a lot of experience that translates into common more modern tech/it structures. But again, I could go on and on about this for pages, but I'm not sure anyone wants to hear it :bang:


Originally Posted by HHammerly (Post 1363670)
I know it is hard to pick up and go, leave everything you know behind, and big changes like that should be well researched, planned and executed when you find the right job etc.
Best of luck to you, you will do fine regardless of where you go if you stay disciplined about your expenses etc.

Thanks man, I appreciate the vote of confidence :bigtu:


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1363676)
You can live and work anywhere. I've lived all over and prefer to have a house paid off and substantially funding my retirement. Some places are better than others, but you have to be happy. Move around some and see some new things. You may be surprised what you might happy with. Move around while you are young and get a feel for different things. That's a luxury of youth.

I spent my 20's and my early 30's grinding myself into the ground to survive. I'd like to think I'm adaptable and have varied enough work history that I could do anything, its just that "happy" thing that challenges me. I feel that getting off the rent treadmill is a huge step in this direction.


Originally Posted by sonofthehill (Post 1363696)
If you can just hold out until the next big quake.

Pssht! Whatever. I was here in 89 for Loma Prieta and I know how to swim, so I figure I can survive anything :giggle:


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 1363730)
The State of Jefferson is where it's at!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff..._Pacific_state)
I really enjoyed Mt. Shasta the couple times I visited, but no way could I live in Kalifornia, even the "Jefferson" portion...

I'm a proponent of the 4 of 5 state breakup. Let those fucking urban centers try to figure out how to support themselves while the rest of us go about our business.


Originally Posted by Girz0r (Post 1363732)
Texas, do eet. (At least visit)

Lot's IT work in Austin, Cota track around the corner as well as harris hill raceway. Coast is... 4 hours away but well worth the scenic drive.

My coworker next to me is from California and vows never to return, says it was completely toxic and is now living in a nice 2 story home with a theater room, pool table etc etc. Getting a lot more for his money.

I've been to Edinburg, is that representative? ;) If so, then I'm not interested.


Originally Posted by rleete (Post 1363744)
One word of advice: Don't wait. Move when you're young, so that if it sucks, you can move again.

I do wish I had spent time moving around in my 20's, I think it would have been good for me.


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1363698)
Jk don't move up here. We have too many of your kind already.

Dude, seriously, WTF is wrong with you people? I went and visited Oregon a couple months back for a friends wedding and I got shit on by 2 complete strangers in unrelated incidents after I told them I was from visiting from California. I've never met such random open hostility in my entire life. When I was in Texas people viewed me as an oddity, but at least everyone was friendly and wanted to engage in conversation and ask me questions about the west coast. Oregon was just horrible.

We don't have the racism and homophobia on the west coast that seems to be present to one degree or another in the rest of the country, but god damn we sure as fuck have some xenophobia going on.


Originally Posted by sonofthehill (Post 1363808)
I understand, SF just isn't what is was when I was a young man. Every time I cross the bridge to visit my mom, I end up cursing at all the idiot drivers, at the very least.
Seriously worst drivers in the nation.

Its because there are too many people and too many cars. SF (and the rest of the country for that matter) suffers from a terrible lack of public transit. Maybe NYC got that part figured out, but I'm not going to visit to find out.


Originally Posted by sonofthehill (Post 1363808)
I just can't deal with the cold, but North West cold is more tolerable.

This is high on my list of fears about leaving California. I don't know what real "cold" is and I'm afraid its going to kill me.


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