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Old 12-02-2020, 04:38 PM
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Also! @Brap-Brap 's box of, IDK WTF showed up the other day.



It's like, some sort of weird Island Of Misfit Toys JRSC care package. Everything is broken, cut up or missing pieces but some of it is actually usable? Wildly useless ranged mechanical AutoMeter boost/vacuum gauge that goes up to 30psi and missing the plumbing fittings, the belt guide is of the OG variety and I have the later revised one, so that's not an upgrade, but the pullies feel good so I'll keep those as spares. There's an plastic A pillar gauge mount that I'll use for something, probably with the AEM wideband that was in there that's missing the sensor and harness, I should be able to fix that fairly easily but if I spend $120 on replacement parts for it and the controller is dead I'm gonna be grumpy. The parts I really wanted were the crossover tube bits because I was having a real hard time finding the correct radius bends. Dissapointed the silicone couplers were not included but meh, there's plenty of stuff here to keep me busy. Thanks dude!



GM IAT was a surprise, as was the swarf inside the tube from the installation



And that's why you clean stuff



I'll need to figure out how to patch this hole for now and then get @gesso to weld it up in the future. Or I'll just bend up a quarter and slap it on there with some JB Weld. That's pretty much the same, right?



And it AAAALLLLLLLLMOST fits, I'm one damn coupler short. I'll have to root through the couplers I used on the EFR stuff in the NB and see if I can steal one to get this running.

That damn upper radiator hose inlet into the radiator is really getting on my nerves, its in the way of almost everything.
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Sounds like you could fix that radiator hose being in teh way of errything with a reroute.
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Sounds like you could fix that radiator hose being in teh way of errything with a reroute.
I very nearly bought the 949racing Supermiata radiator for black friday dealz because it has a significantly offset inlet, then convinced myself not to spend additional hundreds on this beast. SIGH
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Also too pretty. Have you considered flux core welding on a new outlet?
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Originally Posted by EO2K
I'll need to figure out how to patch this hole for now and then get @gesso to weld it up in the future. Or I'll just bend up a quarter and slap it on there with some JB Weld. That's pretty much the same, right?

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Originally Posted by EO2K
Or I'll just bend up a quarter and slap it on there with some JB Weld.
I need to start trolling M.net again. Those were some good times.
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Originally Posted by EO2K
Thanks! I think?

I really appreciate long format build threads filled with excruciating detail and flawed logic rather than the tiny snippets and highlights you get from a platform like the Instantgrahams, or the clickbatey headline bullshit you mostly (but not always) get on YouTube.


Anyway, @Stein are you going to be spending more time with us going forward? Perhaps something Miata based? Hell, even if its not a Miata we've got some active build threads here for not Miata stuff.
Speaking of excruciating detail, who was the guy that was doing a restoration to a stock Miata - sans turbo - that was doing everything back to OEM? Sent all the bolts out to be stripped and cadmium plated to look yellow, etc? I remember seeing that thread and wondered about it.

Yes, I'll do something car related when I return and get settled. Not sure what yet. Still have the V8 Miata. So, I'll be back. I need to poke around in some build thread for grins in the meantime. I've forgotten literally everything Miata-related that I have learned in the past few years.
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That was Jeffbuc.
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Originally Posted by msmola2002
Also too pretty. Have you considered flux core welding on a new outlet?
I mean, if I had a welder...

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Going to Home Depot Racing tonight to pick up Flexseal tape based on your recommendation, thanks!

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I need to start trolling M.net again. Those were some good times.
Yes, why aren't you trolling m.net anymore? My trips through the archives there to find the diamonds of information about the ancient JRSC things buried in the septic sludge of other superfluous comments has turned up more than a few of your gems. You and Ben vs the Moss and For ***** Sake p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-powercard debates are some of my favorites.

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Tom,

It is not necessary to fully comprehend the internal workings of a duck in order to grasp the basic operating principle of the animal. Food goes in one end, poo comes out the other, it quacks a lot, and it tastes good when prepared A l'Orange. In much the same way, a reasonable person can confidently state that a Lotus Exige is superior to a Cadillac El Dorado for the purpose of driving through twisty mountain roads, whereas the Cadillac is superior to the Lotus for the purpose of driving to Las Vegas while consuming copious amounts of LSD. One need not be schooled in the finer points of damper valving, spring motion ratios, neurology, and organic chemistry to make this observation.
https://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost....6&postcount=40

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Speaking of excruciating detail, who was the guy that was doing a restoration to a stock Miata - sans turbo - that was doing everything back to OEM? Sent all the bolts out to be stripped and cadmium plated to look yellow, etc? I remember seeing that thread and wondered about it.

Yes, I'll do something car related when I return and get settled. Not sure what yet. Still have the V8 Miata. So, I'll be back. I need to poke around in some build thread for grins in the meantime. I've forgotten literally everything Miata-related that I have learned in the past few years.
It's ok, Miatae are fairly simple beasts. You strike me as a fairly smart guy and there isn't that much to learn. Still some good eggs on this forum who are willing to answer questions.

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That was Jeffbuc.
I believe the spelling is @Jeffbucc ? Thread in question is https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...-thread-75474/ Just go to the Build Threads section and sort by views
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Hell yea, glad to see my pile of JRSC build sins made it to you just fine.

I thought I had a few couplers in there? I can get you some if you'd like.

The AEM wideband worked until the sensor died, and I just ditched the AEM environment because I dislike AEM stuff.

Funny thing is we were gonna use MS, hence the IAT. Just as I drilled and tapped the IAT in, homie shows up to my place with a 1 piece crossover and a set of TDR power cards.

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You like power cards and innovate products?
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Originally Posted by Brap-Brap
Hell yea, glad to see my pile of JRSC build sins made it to you just fine.

I thought I had a few couplers in there? I can get you some if you'd like.
No worries, I already ordered the one I need so its not a huge deal. Thanks for the offer though! I've got almost enough random stuff lying around from previous projects to make almost anything work. I'm still confused about the 3 piece throttle body inlet pipe? That's just, man, I dunno

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The AEM wideband worked until the sensor died, and I just ditched the AEM environment because I dislike AEM stuff.
Yeah, I was surprised the sensor harness and the sensor were missing. But regardless, also ordered. I don't actually have a wideband for this thing so that kinda worked out perfectly for me. I've always used the LSU 4.2 sensor Bosch units, this'll be my first one with the 4.9

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Funny thing is we were gonna use MS, hence the IAT. Just as I drilled and tapped the IAT in, homie shows up to my place with a 1 piece crossover and a set of TDR power cards.
Ahh, well, that's kind of a bummer. But I lost the GM IAT that I was using on the NB so it worked out well for me! Some people aren't interested in the learning curve associated with a standalone ECU like the Megasquirt so I totally understand that mindset, it's just disappointing to see someone drop $700 for a pair of cards when you can get an MS for almost the same money... but this is an argument that's been going on since the beginning of time so we probably don't need to rehash it here

Still confused as to where he bought that crossover. Unless of course he had it made...
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Originally Posted by 18psi
You like power cards and innovate products?
I must be an outlier, I've never had problems with the Innovate series of widebands, going all the way back to the 7 wire LC-1

I'm just disappointed that I can't use one of the many brand new LSU 4.2 sensors I have kicking around in the garage and had to order a new 4.9. Bleh.
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Originally Posted by EO2K
I'm still confused about the 3 piece throttle body inlet pipe? That's just, man, I dunno

Lol, yea I had to cut it up to get anywhere close to fitting in my buddies engine bay. Eventually switched to a metal elbow from the TB to the MAF and a DDM works intake.


Yeah, I was surprised the sensor harness and the sensor were missing. But regardless, also ordered. I don't actually have a wideband for this thing so that kinda worked out perfectly for me. I've always used the 4.2LSU sensor Bosch units, this'll be my first one with the 4.9

Controller/ sensor harness thing died and took the sensor with it. You hate to see it.

Ahh, well, that's kind of a bummer. But I lost the GM IAT that I was using on the NB so it worked out well for me! Some people aren't interested in the learning curve associated with a standalone ECU like the Megasquirt so I totally understand that mindset, it's just disappointing to see someone drop $700 for a pair of cards when you can get an MS for almost the same money... but this is an argument that's been going on since the beginning of time so we probably don't need to rehash it here
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You like power cards and innovate products?
I have 0 experience with MS, every time I've saved up to buy one or go to the point of setting one up things changed and I needed to shift directions financially, etc. Just gave up on going MS.

I have had pretty bad luck with AEM products, be it controllers dying, sensors, DOA units or gauges going bad. The innovate stuff in my car and my friends cars have been doing well for a while now.

The TDR cards are pretty dope man. Plugged them in, ripped the car around a bit, fueling was basically perfect in most situations, added one click of fuel to be safe, car still runs great. Idle is OEM, AC stuff works, no hiccups or stumbles.

So yea in my extremely limited experience and probably naive mindset, TDR cards and Innovate stuff is pretty good.
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Originally Posted by Stein
Speaking of excruciating detail, who was the guy that was doing a restoration to a stock Miata - sans turbo - that was doing everything back to OEM? Sent all the bolts out to be stripped and cadmium plated to look yellow, etc? I remember seeing that thread and wondered about it.
Slight side-step, do y'all know of Bad Obsession Motorsports on Youtube? They're putting a Toyota Celica ST205 drivetrain into an original Mini, and keeping AS, PS, turbo, awd, etc. They bought an at home plating kit and are refreshing all the bolts with that fresh gold passivated finish lol. The projects taken them the better part of 7 years and its nearly finished.
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Slight side-step, do y'all know of Bad Obsession Motorsports on Youtube?
Absolutely, they are one of my favorite things on Youtube. There's a whole bunch of videos out there for DIY Electroplating, but this is one of my favorites:


He's also got a fantastic video for rust removal processes, including electrolysis:



Dude is I believe a Kiwi (I'm sure @msmola2002 will correct me if I got that wrong) and his channel also has old machine tool restoration and he's currently working on restoring an old Land Rover.

All this content is going to be incredibly useful to me when I finally start working on the Nash.
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And I thought I was the only one following Geoffrey's channel. This dude is awesome, and his videos both satisfying and funny at the same time.
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Dude is I believe a Kiwi (I'm sure @msmola2002 will correct me if I got that wrong) .
He does indeed sound like a sheep *******.
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Duct tape seems to be holding but I'd feel more comfortable with the Flexseal



Intake side coupler is a scrap of silicone I had lying around and it's way too short, but replacement is en route. The crossover may be slightly too long so I might take 1/8" off both sides at the center and see if that helps the fitment. Started up the car on the random NA8 ECU that @Scaxx sent over along with some other trash I might find useful and it actually ran! The label is almost completely illegible thanks to the tape, we initially thought it was for an NB1 but I'm 99.95% sure it's from a NA8 94. The SM guys seem to think the 94 computers are worth 5-10hp more than the 95 computers. No idea if that's true of not, but that's what, 15% of the total projected additional output of a M45? Ran the car until the fan came on, then did a million point turn around the driveway in front of the garage to get it facing the street again.

...at which point I remembered that I pumped the tank dry in this thing last weekend, literally ran it until nothing came out of the return.
Questions, I have them.



Don't ask me why I have 3 ECUs for this car, I seriously have no idea. Maybe I can build a BP based DOHC v8 with 2 stock ECUs, one on each bank, like a BMW M70, but way more 'tarded.

Anyway, I pulled the ELBJs out for now because they absolutely fuckered my alignment, and I don't want to have to have to debug goofy alignment and goofy supercharger at the same time. I drove it around the block and it was scary bad, "scream and try not to hit parked cars" bad. Literally undrivable. But it didn't throw the belt! Fuel tank seal is here, just waiting for the DW100 to show up with the NA6 install kit and I can actually put a whomping on this thing and see if it explodes.

Getting close! Must remain patient.
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Don't ask me why I have 3 ECUs for this car, I seriously have no idea. Maybe I can build a BP based DOHC v8 with 2 stock ECUs, one on each bank, like a BMW M70, but way more 'tarded.
Anyone have an oven that will fit BP blocks for pre-heating? I can supply a stick welder.
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