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Old 08-04-2021, 04:54 PM
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... I went into work every single day even though 97% of my building is still working from home since the last April.

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2,872 deaths / 223,364 cases = 0.012% death rate, 99.9871% survival rate
I hate to be "that guy" but it's 1.2% not .012% death rate and 98.8% survival rate. And as you noted, that number includes mostly people who are already on borrowed time. So yeah, very deadly virus that we need saving from.
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Somehow, this image suddenly popped into my head.
cube farm; im in a scif.
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this was a lot of work for democrats to get segregation back...


the biggest downside of this will be less videos of fights in dennys and popeyes online.


it may be worth it! here's why:
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Transmission amongst humans in the western world, yes.

Does that mean that the flu is eradicated? Unfortunately, no. There are influenza reservoirs in animals too. Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2640312/.
One of the biggest changes which the CDC admitted to is that they simply didn't test for influenza. The next factor is the amplitude of the widely used PCR test to check if you "had" covid, which has since late January had been reduced to the more reasonable amplitude of 20ish (vs the previous >30 or 40 - which SHOULD be the test's definition generate many false postives). This coming winter season... they should simply test for both flu and covid, and post those numbers alongside vaccinated and unvaccinated - you know, actual straightforward data to see what it all looks like.

Walensky said right... while vaccinated, you can still get it, you can still spread it (same viral load as someone that is unvaxxed), so then what is the logistical/pragmatic reason to administer this experimental, unapproved, treatment to those who will statistically have little to no effect on them, e.g. similar outcome to a really bad cold/flu (again, statistically?). Wouldn't we want to balance the risk of hospitalization/death with the risk of injecting a new technology? <------- why not this? Instead, we're trying to make it so that kids <15 years old to get this thing injected - where ~5x more kids died of the flu 2017 than kids in 2020?

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Originally Posted by hector
I hate to be "that guy" but it's 1.2% not .012% death rate and 98.8% survival rate. And as you noted, that number includes mostly people who are already on borrowed time. So yeah, very deadly virus that we need saving from.
Right, if you broke it down to comorbidities, age, etc... the numbers get even more drastic. What was it last year? only 6% of deaths (~30k) were of people that were not old old or had any comorbidities?

The number for kids <12 is statistically ZERO. The number for kids 12-18 was also statistically ZERO (there were a LOT of 9's on the survival rate). Things didn't go lower than 99.9% until you got into your 40's I think. It's been a while since I reviewed the "then" easily viewable data.

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This forum today has just been internet GOLD...
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Right, if you broke it down to comorbidities, age, etc... the numbers get even more drastic. What was it last year? only 6% of deaths (~30k) were of people that were not old old or had any comorbidities?

The number for kids <12 is statistically ZERO. The number for kids 12-18 was also statistically ZERO (there were a LOT of 9's on the survival rate). Things didn't go lower than 99.9% until you got into your 40's I think. It's been a while since I reviewed the "then" easily viewable data.
Yeah, but think of the children!
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Originally Posted by Braineack
cube farm; im in a scif.
Hopefully you still got the reference

(BTW, I've been in screen rooms with fancier decor)
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I find it hard to really care much about this COVID crap, except to the extent that it affects me and my family and friends.

Up here in the Northeast US, vaccine availability has been so widespread and easy, I think it’s safe to say that anyone who isn’t vaccinated has consciously decided that they don’t want it. Everyone in my family is vaccinated, mostly to minimize trouble in travel through the various American Peoples’ Republics out there.

If the unvaccinated are right, and the vaccine is just a macguffin, good for them. On Sunday, the head of NIH said that masks are necessary(although admittedly ineffective) to protect the unvaccinated.

I have a hard time accepting that it’s my job to protect people from something when they don’t want my, or anyone else’s, protection from it. That sounds suspiciously like something the military has come to regret.

If they’re wrong and not being vaccinated ends up killing them, well that was their choice and Mr Darwin would approve of them improving the gene pool.
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There's one thing that throws me off alot about covid. How the hell did they manage to get the average leftist to be soooooooooo worried about it? Most of the "problems" leftists claim to want to solve would be helped along by the deaths of the people the people that covid generally kills. Wealth hording, boomer policy, health costs, redistribution of wealth, housing shortage, etc would all be helped by old people dying earlier.
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Originally Posted by Bajingo
There's one thing that throws me off alot about covid. How the hell did they manage to get the average leftist to be soooooooooo worried about it? Most of the "problems" leftists claim to want to solve would be helped along by the deaths of the people the people that covid generally kills. Wealth hording, boomer policy, health costs, redistribution of wealth, housing shortage, etc would all be helped by old people dying earlier.
Had the same thought, except that it related to China. If I was a Totalitarian Communist regime that needed to free up some cash, how could I kill the elderly of my country while still looking like a benevolent caretaker...
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Yeah China definitely benefits
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Originally Posted by Bajingo
There's one thing that throws me off alot about covid. How the hell did they manage to get the average leftist to be soooooooooo worried about it? Most of the "problems" leftists claim to want to solve would be helped along by the deaths of the people the people that covid generally kills. Wealth hording, boomer policy, health costs, redistribution of wealth, housing shortage, etc would all be helped by old people dying earlier.
There certainly is something going on under the surface. There is zero discussion from the governments about the millions of people exposed to the virus that survived before the experimental vaccines came out. They have the antibodies that are better at keeping them and others safe than those that have been vaccinated. Why would TPTB want them to get vaccinated, too, to the point of making their lives miserable if they don't?

My problem is I'm a little too young--just a little--to retire again, but I'm too old to go looking for another job if I have to get vaccinated to keep the job I have.
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Originally Posted by Bajingo
There's one thing that throws me off alot about covid. How the hell did they manage to get the average leftist to be soooooooooo worried about it?
Easy: former President Trump said it was nothing to worry about.

If you want to pinpoint the exact moment that Covid became a political touchstone, that was it.
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he voted yes for the "infrastructure" bill along with mitt...
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This is making a nation-wide assumption. During the "pandemic", our entire business park worked without masks, save my neighbor's shop, as he was going through chemo. Then we need to factor in the non-efficacy of t-shirt masks, which is nothing short of comedy "masq"uerading as science. Even the CDC said so (again) this past weekend.
from the CDC:

  • To maximize protection from the Delta variant and prevent possibly spreading it to others, wear a mask indoors in public if you are in an area of substantial or high transmission.



from my employer:

​​​​​​​As previously reported by John and me, we are following the CDC’s updated guidance released last week and all employees working in areas of substantial or high COVID transmission are required to wear a mask in --- offices. Please check the CDC’s COVID Data Tracker to determine the COVID transmission rates for your location’s state and county/metro area on a daily basis. There is signage communicating the face covering requirements at the entrance of --- offices. The status has worsened in many locations across the U.S., and locations that previously were not classified as substantial or high transmission areas may now be at the level.
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