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12-07-2021, 12:47 PM
A nice touch-stone is the VAERS data that shows people who have died over the past 20+ years as a direct result of getting vaccinated, and then seeing those same numbers based on the Wuhan Flu vaccine. They couldn't make a red flag red enough...if we're just looking at numbers. Seems like the MSM, Big Pharma and our governments have interests that may differ from the gen-population.
The number that makes the most sense--and one that's never talked about--everyone getting an antigen test. Seems like the government may not want people to know that their double-jab a few months ago has left them with trace protections against this lab-grown virus.
The number that makes the most sense--and one that's never talked about--everyone getting an antigen test. Seems like the government may not want people to know that their double-jab a few months ago has left them with trace protections against this lab-grown virus.
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12-07-2021, 12:50 PM
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The day Biden took office, the CDC recommended a change in the test cycles, and suddenly Biden reduced the spread of COVID.
The CDC also recommended against testing vaccinated people for covid early May, because they knew the vaccine offered little to no protection in being infected with covid. They wanted to hide the numbers. As soon as they changed their recommendation in June, cases suddenly skyrocketed. They were forced to change this recommendation only because vaccinated people kept becoming infected and they could no longer hide it. Then they started recommending that vaccinated people still wear masks and maintain social distance. Now why would they recommend that for the vaccinated if the vaccine worked, even at 70%, even at 50%?
it would be EASY to log vaccination status when logging a new case, but they want to hide it.
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12-07-2021, 12:54 PM
My dad's two false positives are memorialized forever. Yep, low quality PCR testing is good for the bottom line and good to keep the sheep in line.
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12-07-2021, 02:19 PM
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I suspect it was the vaccine type, not the virus itself. coronavirus is nothing new, although man-made coronavirus is...
we focused solely on the spike protein in our vaccine and we also got our synthetic genetic code used to create the vaccine directly from China.
it's also most profitable that way.
we focused solely on the spike protein in our vaccine and we also got our synthetic genetic code used to create the vaccine directly from China.
it's also most profitable that way.
a) MRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna
b) Protein vaccine from GSK
c) Classic adenovirus vaccines from AstraZeneca and J&J.
I have studied and I fully understand how these work. You could possibly persuade me that the new MRNA vaccines have a much shorter lifespan because of some unknown interaction during the RNA processing to generate the protein spike in the body.
You can't however persuade me that all 5 vaccines from 5 different companies with 3 radically different ways of triggering an immune response are happening because theories (I strongly want to resist say "because aliens man").
Specifically the adenovirus-based vaccines is how pretty much all well known and established vaccines are made, and don't tell me these don't work.
If you have a theory, you need to provide at least some hard or very plausible evidence to support it.
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12-07-2021, 03:14 PM
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on J&J: wasn't it developed using a synthesized virus code as well, not a dead virus? I could be wrong here.
Anyways, we were sold on a promise that the vaccine would let us go back to normal. the vaccine seems effective in preventing major illness and hospitalizations, yet here were still are wearing disgusting masks that also don't stop the spread, locking down children in Austria, locking down adults in Germany and Australia, locking out people from our economies, eating outdoors in the middle of winter, etc.
It's beyond dumb at this point. Get the vaccine or don't, and let's move on with our lives. You have little to no chance of dying from it if you you're infected with it, and nothing we have been doing for two years now has stopped it.
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12-07-2021, 03:52 PM
[QUOTE=Reverant;1613727]
If you have a theory, you need to provide at least some hard or very plausible evidence to support it.[/QUOTE
Government wants to fix a problem while at the same time hiding some of their poorer choices (gain of function funding). In comes the Statist/Central Planners who see an opportunity to control the public with fear while at the same time painting themselves as heroes. Extra added bonus--their friends at Big Pharma and Big Tech shower them with money and platitudes as they gain more power and wealth themselves via crony capitalism. Win win....except of course us plebes get the **** end of the stick. And the bill.
If you have a theory, you need to provide at least some hard or very plausible evidence to support it.[/QUOTE
Government wants to fix a problem while at the same time hiding some of their poorer choices (gain of function funding). In comes the Statist/Central Planners who see an opportunity to control the public with fear while at the same time painting themselves as heroes. Extra added bonus--their friends at Big Pharma and Big Tech shower them with money and platitudes as they gain more power and wealth themselves via crony capitalism. Win win....except of course us plebes get the **** end of the stick. And the bill.
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12-08-2021, 07:53 AM
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That's what you chances are...
Government wants to fix a problem while at the same time hiding some of their poorer choices (gain of function funding). In comes the Statist/Central Planners who see an opportunity to control the public with fear while at the same time painting themselves as heroes. Extra added bonus--their friends at Big Pharma and Big Tech shower them with money and platitudes as they gain more power and wealth themselves via crony capitalism. Win win....except of course us plebes get the **** end of the stick. And the bill.
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12-08-2021, 08:14 AM
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I'm curious where you get 3%. Even in Oklahoma, notoriously one of the most obese and unhealthiest states in the country, and therefore the world, the fatality rate is approximately half that. My fiancée caught it at the end of last year, I slept next to her until she tested positive, then she sequestered herself to the spare bedroom. My fat *** sleeping next her never caught it. I'm pretty sure I was within 6 feet for hours at a time.
I'm with Brainy on this one. Open things back up and lets to back to normal. Stop paying people to sit at home and not work. If you're nervous about going out and catching it, then don't go out.
Although, we never stopped going to concerts, comedy shows, out to eat or to the bars.
I'm with Brainy on this one. Open things back up and lets to back to normal. Stop paying people to sit at home and not work. If you're nervous about going out and catching it, then don't go out.
Although, we never stopped going to concerts, comedy shows, out to eat or to the bars.
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12-08-2021, 09:43 AM
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It would be interesting to see how many COVID deaths there have been from people who are legitimately in great health, with no other comorbidities.
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12-08-2021, 09:47 AM
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from the Grecian PDF Reverant linked:
The new deaths of patients with COVID-19 are 116, while since the beginning of the epidemic a total of 18,716 deaths have been recorded. 95.4% had underlying disease and / or age 70 years and older.
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12-08-2021, 09:49 AM
Well - round about 3% isn't really what I would call "little to no chance". I like the picture of a bowl with 100 little sweets (insert M&M or whatever is your taste here) and 3 of them are deadly poisoned- would you happily grab a handful and have a go?
That's what you chances are...
That's what you chances are...
Now if you’re over 75, it’s a different story. You should probably get vaccinated and get boosted and don’t eat M&Ms.
I’m also curious where you got the 3% number from? Even from the very early days of this pandemic the highest estimates were 1-1.5%.
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12-08-2021, 10:00 AM
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We have the vax, what else are we supposed to do? It's not going away. We tried masks, quarantining, social distancing, vaccines, and it still abounds.
The vax is supposed to keep out out of the ER, and it appears the case fatality rates through the world are very low since the roll out, so why are we still trying to pretend it will sudden go away if a few more people get vaccinated or you wear your mask when you walk into a business, then take it off a few steps in, or stay home for two month then go outside and become infected immediately? Wasn't that the whole point of 15-days to slow the spread, to keep Hospitals from being overrun?
Our government literally infected our elderly on purpose and I'm supposed to care about something that might minor inconvenience me for 3-4 days at most if I contract it?
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12-08-2021, 12:36 PM
I worry more about cancer or heart disease or a car accident and plethora other things.
We have the vax, what else are we supposed to do? It's not going away. We tried masks, quarantining, social distancing, vaccines, and it still abounds.
The vax is supposed to keep out out of the ER, and it appears the case fatality rates through the world are very low since the roll out, so why are we still trying to pretend it will sudden go away if a few more people get vaccinated or you wear your mask when you walk into a business, then take it off a few steps in, or stay home for two month then go outside and become infected immediately? Wasn't that the whole point of 15-days to slow the spread, to keep Hospitals from being overrun?
Our government literally infected our elderly on purpose and I'm supposed to care about something that might minor inconvenience me for 3-4 days at most if I contract it?
We have the vax, what else are we supposed to do? It's not going away. We tried masks, quarantining, social distancing, vaccines, and it still abounds.
The vax is supposed to keep out out of the ER, and it appears the case fatality rates through the world are very low since the roll out, so why are we still trying to pretend it will sudden go away if a few more people get vaccinated or you wear your mask when you walk into a business, then take it off a few steps in, or stay home for two month then go outside and become infected immediately? Wasn't that the whole point of 15-days to slow the spread, to keep Hospitals from being overrun?
Our government literally infected our elderly on purpose and I'm supposed to care about something that might minor inconvenience me for 3-4 days at most if I contract it?
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