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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 01:12 PM
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https://www.ibtimes.com/18-fully-vac...t-week-3276583

18 Fully Vaccinated People Die Of COVID-19 In Massachusetts In Past Week


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Over the past week, health officials recorded 2,500 new breakthrough COVID-19 cases, 496 of whom were admitted to the hospital, and 18 new deaths. The latest data brings the state’s total to 12,641 infections and 124 deaths involving individuals who have been fully vaccinated against the virus, according to the state Department of Public Health’s coronavirus tracker.

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COVID is never going to go away if we continue to use a vaccine that exacerbates the spread; not stops it. Regardless if it sorta prevents hospitalization and deaths.

google: ADE.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 01:22 PM
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Brainey, your responses were exactly what I predicted.


Anyway, this is interesting. The Illinois Dept of Public Health apparently wants me (and everyone else) to register with their online immunization portal, a process which involves giving them my SSN and having them verify my identity through Experian:

https://idphportal.illinois.gov/

Obviously, that's not going to happen.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Brainey, your responses were exactly what I predicted.
And here i was hoping you had actual data...
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
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google: ADE.
^^ THIS !! (because you'll never hear about it from MSN)
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Brainey, your responses were exactly what I predicted.
Certainly with your critical reasoning, you can understand that when presented with multiple, conflicting messages and data from the same agency, they are prone to increasing suspicion. Then, to see reports from other sources/countries that both refute CDC position/numbers/propaganda AND those sources/countries provide data to the opposite - - credibility and blind faith in your source is lost. I like how witty you act on these board, but I'd like to see more critical thinking and even an acknowledgement that some obvious fuckery is afoot.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 05:06 PM
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I mean, they are asking you to ID and register yourself like some kind of sexual offender, with your ssn? Why?

I wonder what else they are currently asking for other than social, and when it'll be made mandatory.

"As part of this process, IDPH said anyone who has placed a freeze on their credit will need to unfreeze it with Experian and wait 24 hours before completing the process. Those who previously had their credit frozen can re-freeze it afterwards by contacting Experian, IDPH said."

You mean the one that was hacked, and that everyone should have froze?
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 05:33 PM
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4. Why am I being asked for my social security number?

Providing your social security number (SSN) is optional. The portal uses Experian to confirm the identity of the registrant. Your SSN is not stored in the system.

5. Why is Experian used in the identification process to see my immunizations?

The ID proofing process begins with the Identity Verification Consent which is seen during registration. Due to regulations and the need to keep the user's information private, we use Experian via a soft inquiry to confirm the user's identity. We do not see the inquiry and there is no impact to your credit score.

6. Do I need to unfreeze my credit to complete the registration process?

No. Consumers do NOT need to unfreeze their credit with Experian to complete the process.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 05:41 PM
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Then why the **** are they asking for it? Why the **** are there multiple sources of conflicting information?

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illin...cation-system/

Here's a string of Illinois previous data security failures.

Trust the government.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 06:08 PM
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I've spent a few minutes reading over that little site and I can't figure out why you'd want to give them your information. The site has basically zero real world use.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bajingo
I've spent a few minutes reading over that little site and I can't figure out why you'd want to give them your information. The site has basically zero real world use.
It says .gov at the end of the link. I'd bet you a dollar they already have whatever information they want you to give them.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by deezums
Then why the **** are they asking for it? Why the **** are there multiple sources of conflicting information?

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illin...cation-system/

Here's a string of Illinois previous data security failures.

Trust the government.



Old Sep 1, 2021 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bajingo
I've spent a few minutes reading over that little site and I can't figure out why you'd want to give them your information. The site has basically zero real world use.
That's what's puzzling me.

I would not be surprised if participation becomes mandatory at some point.

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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
That's what's puzzling me.

I would not be surprised if participation becomes mandatory at some point.
I can only assume that site is the preparations for mandatory vaccination, vaccine passports, and the door to door checks that the sleepy child sniffer was speaking about.

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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
That's what's puzzling me.

I would not be surprised if participation becomes mandatory at some point.
whats next? voter id?



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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Zed.
whats next? voter id?
This was a triumph.

I'm making a note here: "Huge success."

It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.
Old Sep 2, 2021 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Diamond Dave
Certainly with your critical reasoning, you can understand that when presented with multiple, conflicting messages and data from the same agency, they are prone to increasing suspicion. Then, to see reports from other sources/countries that both refute CDC position/numbers/propaganda AND those sources/countries provide data to the opposite - - credibility and blind faith in your source is lost. I like how witty you act on these board, but I'd like to see more critical thinking and even an acknowledgement that some obvious fuckery is afoot.
According to the Australian Government of Health's own adverse effect database, there have been 471 reports of death related to covid-19 vaccines between jan 1 2021 and aug 18 2021. 62 people have died from the virus itself during that period.

site: https://www.tga.gov.au/database-adve...fications-daen


And this is on an island that will literally shot your dog to prevent you from going outside to walk it.
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Originally Posted by Diamond Dave
Certainly with your critical reasoning, you can understand that when presented with multiple, conflicting messages and data from the same agency, they are prone to increasing suspicion. Then, to see reports from other sources/countries that both refute CDC position/numbers/propaganda AND those sources/countries provide data to the opposite - - credibility and blind faith in your source is lost. I like how witty you act on these board, but I'd like to see more critical thinking and even an acknowledgement that some obvious fuckery is afoot.
You mean like telling vaccinated people to wear a mask?


When it's been completely proven masks (nor the vaccine) stop the spread of covid?




or telling us it's CRITICALLY important for children to wear a mask, when again, it's been 100% proven to be 100% ineffective against the spread of covid, with exactly ZERO evidence to support the claim they help.


and the study they based this CRITICAL recommendation on found:

the infection rate in schools requiring students to wear masks “was not statistically significant compared with schools where mask use was optional.”


https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7021e1.htm



Is this the sort of tomfoolery youre talking about @Diamond Dave ???

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Our third step is to adjust for the fact that even if these unvaccinated adults had gotten the vaccine, the vaccine would not prevent 100% of hospitalizations. Based on CDC data for the effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccines in preventing hospitalizations at 13-24 weeks, we assume that 84% of hospitalizations primarily for COVID-19 are preventable. Multiplying the number of adults hospitalized primarily due to COVID-19 by the percent of hospitalizations preventable by vaccination (84%) gives us the number of preventable hospitalizations. This is again a conservative assumption, as other studies have pointed to a higher level of protection from hospitalization."

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Remember when phone calls were grounds for impeachment? Would be nice if democrats remembered that...
Old Sep 2, 2021 | 08:48 AM
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https://www.newsobserver.com/news/lo...253851373.html

Duke sets new campus restrictions after rise in COVID cases among vaccinated students

Duke University has set new restrictions to mitigate the spread of COVID-19 as cases are rising on the Durham campus despite its vaccine mandate.

In the first week of classes, 304 undergraduates, 45 graduate students and 15 employees tested positive for COVID-19. All but eight of these individuals were vaccinated, and the vast majority of them are asymptomatic. A small number have minor, cold- and flu-like symptoms, and none have been hospitalized, according to the university.

Duke administrators announced the new guidelines in an email saying “this surge is placing significant stress on the people, systems and facilities that are dedicated to protecting our health, safety and the ability of Duke to fulfill its educational mission, particularly our isolation space for on-campus students who test positive.”

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As of Aug. 30, Duke reported 98% of students and 92% of employees are fully vaccinated.
lol. Why do these infectious disease scientists who run businesses and institutions keep insisting the vaccine stops the spread? The new mask mandate on top of being vaccinated will surely stop it! [even though again, the entire recorded human history has proven this doesn't stop epidemics or pandemics]


It's almost like these scientists believe that COVID-19 has some of "gain of function" that masks can protect you from -- despite all the peer-reviewed evidence against this silly notion.



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