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Old 12-15-2021, 03:10 PM
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Once they hit 75% it will go away.

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Old 12-15-2021, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by wherestheboost
And just to clarify all of these........... a, b, and c can only be verified via a continuing control group. Whooops! Those don't even exist anymore. Unblinded December 2020, and placebo recipients rushed to get their injections completed. Scientifically - no control group, how can you prove that it was the vaccines that are reducing serious disease, death, and spread vs... natural immunity kicking in (you know, for all the MILLIONS of people that got it and recovered - not to mention the LACK of studies on that group - weird), or the virus is simply becoming less deadly (as it has just about every time in the past)?
While this is all way overblown, IIRC, it's something like 0.01 percent of COVID deaths are vaccinated vs 0.90% unvaccinated deaths from COVID. The numbers are still pretty small, but that's a pretty big difference.
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While this is all way overblown, IIRC, it's something like 0.01 percent of COVID deaths are vaccinated vs 0.90% unvaccinated deaths from COVID. The numbers are still pretty small, but that's a pretty big difference.
Unjabbed die "with" covid (not because of), and jabbed deaths are recorded only if it's actually from covid. I'd also like the scope of the data. Much of the previous numbers used the unjabbed deaths to include everything as far back as December 2020. Numbers should be compared on a month month basis, etc. Or at least compare starting the date when jabs plateaued.

I would be over the moon, if testing was consistent.
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
While this is all way overblown, IIRC, it's something like 0.01 percent of COVID deaths are vaccinated vs 0.90% unvaccinated deaths from COVID. The numbers are still pretty small, but that's a pretty big difference.
More Covid deaths in England are vaccinated than unvaccinated. Used to be 70% has been the median percentage for the past few weeks, but now it's above 80%. I'm vaccinated. It helps. But at the same time Big Pharma is pushing for "boosters' because the efficacy of the jab goes down with time. The J&J jab is in the single digits after only four months.

UK Gov. report confirms FULLY VACCINATED account for 4 out of 5 Covid-19 deaths in England
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No way dude. All those people must have fake vaccine papers.
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Originally Posted by Braineack

Since the vaccine doesn't prevent the spread, nor does it prevent you from getting covid, none of what we are doing across the globe makes any LOGICAL sense.
  • Shutting down the entire world for 2 months did stop the spread -- as soon as we came back together cases skyrocketed again.
  • Masks don't work whatsoever in preventing the spread.
  • Sending infected elderly into nursing homes didn't work.
  • Wearing a mask into a restaurant, then taking it off a few steps into the establishment doesn't work.
  • The vaccines didn't stop the spread -- all evidence suggests they make the spread worse.
  • ESPN has clearly showed up that not only do covid bubbles and strict protocols don't work, but healthy athletes getting covid means you miss a game or two -- not based on symptoms, but just because that's the rule.
  • Passports dont prevent the spread, since vaccinated people still spread and catch covid.
  • Demonizing/banning treatments for those who happened to get infected while other countries find much success in them didn't work.
While I agree with all of the above, my trepidation with all this is at a much lower level. I have a thousand questions/comments, but let me grab some things out of the middle of the box...

It is impossible there is enough data to show the vaccines available in the USofA are safe for women that are pregnant or breast feeding. There has simply not been enough time. Same goes for vaccinating 5 -- 11 year olds. If someone here can convince me otherwise, I will go out and get the shot. If you can't convince me, why should we believe anything else they tell us?

There are people who are allergic to peanuts. There are people that can die from bee stings. Some folks are lactose intolerant. I know a gal who is allergic to latex. I worked with a guy that was NOT affected by poison ivy. There are people allergic to pennecillin or that shouldn't take tylenol. Why does anyone with a decent IQ believe it's safe for every person in America to take one of the available vaccines?

Why is there no study detailing what demographic should take which vaccine? If the government came out and stated something like "old, white people should take the XXX vaccine. Young males shouldn't take suchandsuch. Orientals should take whatever", it would provide the illusion they actually care. Certainly there is enough data to show which vaccines have certain side effects for specific demographics. A worldwide study would be even better--maybe latinos should take the vaccine developed in India...

If obesity is a known co-morbidity for COVID, why is there a public service announcement against fat-shaming, but no public service announcements about losing weight, exercising, and eating healthy to reduce your risks of serious illness if you get COVID?

There are numerous studies showing Vitamin D is a prophylactic against COVID, and part of a comprehensive treatment. You get Vitamin D naturally being out in the sun. Why are the governments trying to keep people inside?

But most importantly, why is there no effective, government-approved treatment plan if you do get COVID?

Just a few things from the middle of the box...

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ESPN continues to be the biggest redpill against COVID bullshit:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...k-expands.html

COVID sacks NFL: League weighs tweaking health protocol as 75 players (and counting) test positive this week, including Browns star Baker Mayfield and Rams receiver Odell Beckham Jr.

  • The NFL is facing a major COVID-19 outbreak as 75 players tested positive on Monday and Tuesday, including a single-day record 37 on to start the week
  • Cleveland Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield and his former teammate, Los Angeles Rams receiver Odell Beckham Jr. are among the infected players
  • Although nearly all NFL players are vaccinated, seven teams have been forced into enhanced protocols that were established earlier this season
  • With many teams facing labor shortages, the NFL is reportedly considering altering protocol to allow vaccinated, asymptomatic players to return sooner
  • Other options are also being considered, according to various reports
  • The league is mandating Tier 1 and Tier 2 personnel receiver booster injections by December 27. The mandate doesn't apply to players, but that could change ​​​​​​​
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Originally Posted by poormxdad
It is impossible there is enough data to show the vaccines available in the USofA are safe for women that are pregnant or breast feeding. There has simply not been enough time. Same goes for vaccinating 5 -- 11 year olds. If someone here can convince me otherwise, I will go out and get the shot. If you can't convince me, why should we believe anything else they tell us?
Miscarriages and stillbirths have skyrocketed over the past year.

There was already a study done with pregnancies alone and the results were mortifying. But that didn't stop people from killing their children to protect themselves against a mutation the vaccine doesn't protect them from.

I posted this on 8-12-2021:

...the NIH just released findings the show that 81% of women taking the "vaccine" in the first or second trimester of a pregnancy, end up losing their babies to miscarriage. (104 of 127 women)

of course they are trying to tie the increase with covid itself and not the vaccine, just as they are doing with the increase heart complications...
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Originally Posted by Braineack
ESPN continues to be the biggest redpill against COVID bullshit:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...k-expands.html
Duh, they all have fake vax cards
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Duh, they all have fake vax cards
No bro, the new variants are so highly contagious that the reduction rate of the vaccines is less than the increase of the contagion. A + 4 = Turtle.
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All these companies embraced BLM and encouraged the riots/looting of 2020.

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https://www.aha.org/news/headline/20...hrombosis-risk

FDA updates J&J COVID-19 vaccine fact sheets to warn of thrombosis risk

Dec 15, 2021 - 03:59 PM
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So fun to read all the red-pilling...


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Originally Posted by cordycord
More Covid deaths in England are vaccinated than unvaccinated. Used to be 70% has been the median percentage for the past few weeks, but now it's above 80%. I'm vaccinated. It helps. But at the same time Big Pharma is pushing for "boosters' because the efficacy of the jab goes down with time. The J&J jab is in the single digits after only four months.

UK Gov. report confirms FULLY VACCINATED account for 4 out of 5 Covid-19 deaths in England
Did you mean to share a blog post that has been removed?

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Originally Posted by z31maniac
Did you mean to share a blog post that has been removed?
https://assets.publishing.service.go..._-_week_38.pdf

The document contains information on COVID-19 cases, hospitalisations and deaths in England between Aug. 23 and Sept 19, 2021.

Indeed, of 1,521 over-80s who died from COVID-19 during this time, 1,272 were fully vaccinated, the data shows. Forty-three had received one vaccine dose, while 198 were unvaccinated. Meanwhile, 607 out of 801 70 to 79-year-olds who died from COVID-19 had received two vaccine doses (164 hadn’t been vaccinated) and of 411 60- to 69-year-olds, 258 were fully vaccinated (125 were unvaccinated).
my favorite goalpost resettlement of the week:

"When much of a population has been vaccinated, most infections and deaths are “expected to be among those vaccinated”, Dr Muge Cevik, a clinical lecturer in infectious diseases and medical virology at the University of St Andrews, previously told Reuters.
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
Did you mean to share a blog post that has been removed?
Do you really think that anyone is using valid reasons to remove blog posts nowadays? I used it because it had direct links to UK government data that's more complete than the CDC trash.

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Big think time:

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I'm old enough to remember that calling it a clot shot was: RiGhT WiNgEd rAciSt ExTRmesisM!!!!

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