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09-29-2021, 11:02 AM
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For some additional context: this is a massive hospital system employing over 35,000 people; the 175 people who chose not to meet the requirements to remain employed constitute something like 0.5% of their workforce.
It actually probably bears pointing out that 99.5% of their medical staff has been vaccinated.
Additionally, according to the article, they suspended 375 employees for failing to meet vaccine requirements - meaning that over half of the people who threatened to quit over vaccines were ultimately vaccinated.
It actually probably bears pointing out that 99.5% of their medical staff has been vaccinated.
Additionally, according to the article, they suspended 375 employees for failing to meet vaccine requirements - meaning that over half of the people who threatened to quit over vaccines were ultimately vaccinated.
But why the mandate if 99.5% of their staff has been vaccinated, and why fire 0.5% of the workforce if the vaccine actually doesn't prevent the spread of CVOID-19? Exactly why?
What exact benefit is an employer gaining from the firing of unvaccinated employees?
What exact benefit is an employer gaining from preventing unvaccinated from using their goods/services?
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09-29-2021, 12:23 PM
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09-29-2021, 12:33 PM
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But, like many others in this thread, you don't like the answer so just dismiss it.
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09-29-2021, 12:56 PM
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This has been answered dozens of times. Currently in the US, 95% of ICU patients with COVID aren't vaccinated. The vaccine is supposed to help make the symptoms more mild to keep you out of the hospital.
But, like many others in this thread, you don't like the answer so just dismiss it.
But, like many others in this thread, you don't like the answer so just dismiss it.
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09-29-2021, 12:59 PM
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09-29-2021, 01:11 PM
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This has been answered dozens of times. Currently in the US, 95% of ICU patients with COVID aren't vaccinated. The vaccine is supposed to help make the symptoms more mild to keep you out of the hospital.
But, like many others in this thread, you don't like the answer so just dismiss it.
But, like many others in this thread, you don't like the answer so just dismiss it.
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09-29-2021, 01:16 PM
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https://www.wbaltv.com/article/covid...land/37503110#
Data shows increase of vaccinated people among hospitalized Marylanders
Updated: 6:15 PM EDT Sep 7, 2021While state data shows the vast majority of Marylanders currently hospitalized with COVID-19 are either unvaccinated or partially vaccinated, the percentage of people fully vaccinated is ticking upward.
Over the past three months in Anne Arundel County, about 30% of the people hospitalized with COVID-19 are fully vaccinated.
There's a similar timeframe and trend in neighboring Howard County, where health officials said roughly 30% to 40% of people hospitalized with COVID-19 are fully vaccinated.
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota...d-unvaccinated
4 major Minnesota hospitals reveal how many COVID-19 patients are fully vaccinated, unvaccinated
...Its data show that of 176 COVID-19 patients hospitalized on Sept. 20, 32 were in the ICU and 21 required a ventilator. Hospitalized patients who were fully vaccinated represented 22.7% of the total, and just 15.6% of the ICU cases and 9.5% of the cases with a ventilator.
95% =/= 80-60%
we are over the hump for the Delta wave -- vaccinated hospitalization numbers are only going to increase...
Oh I missed the ICU caveat....
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09-29-2021, 01:44 PM
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Remember when this video dropped and everyone thought it was odd because the window didn't match reality?
Just counting the days until we find out that of video of him passing his hand through a microphone was doctored as suspected too...
Just counting the days until we find out that of video of him passing his hand through a microphone was doctored as suspected too...
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09-29-2021, 01:47 PM
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What % of people with covid end up in the hospital? This right here is your chance to convince me to vaccinate, if the % is high enough I'll go get it.
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09-29-2021, 01:53 PM
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Just to clarify, you are ok with 1% of the population becoming dead but your bridge too far is less than 1% of the population becoming voluntarily unemployed?
This is why nobody with a fully functional brain takes this "movement" seriously
I don't care what your position on ANYTHING is as long as:
1) You are consistent
2) You aren't a hypocrite
3) You are situationally aware enough to know when you are being made fun of
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4) You aren't so closed minded that you are willing to admit that every piece of data that is presented which is contra to your beliefs isn't a part of some world wide conspiracy to which you yourself are incapable of effectively articulating the motives.
Outside of that....if you wanna nebulize Hydrogen Peroxide, take horse dewormer or drink turpentine, awesome....just don't tell people to do it to their kids.
This is why nobody with a fully functional brain takes this "movement" seriously
I don't care what your position on ANYTHING is as long as:
1) You are consistent
2) You aren't a hypocrite
3) You are situationally aware enough to know when you are being made fun of
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4) You aren't so closed minded that you are willing to admit that every piece of data that is presented which is contra to your beliefs isn't a part of some world wide conspiracy to which you yourself are incapable of effectively articulating the motives.
Outside of that....if you wanna nebulize Hydrogen Peroxide, take horse dewormer or drink turpentine, awesome....just don't tell people to do it to their kids.
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09-29-2021, 01:57 PM
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09-29-2021, 02:01 PM
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I don't care if you get vaccinated or not. Not sure why you think I do. From what I've read, yes you can still can contract it and yes you can still spread it, but you are less likely to. As well as if you do contract it, and you are vaccinated, you are much less likely to end up in a life-threatening situation in the hospital.
I know we've already had to go over not agreeing with A doesn't mean agreeing with B multiple times. Do we need to also work on the differences between POSSIBLE and PROBABLE?
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09-29-2021, 02:13 PM
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I absolutely do. They have a choice to make within their own free will. Get the vaccine or work somewhere else. That is 100% their choice.
Just because its a difficult choice....doesn't mean it isn't a choice.
Just because its a difficult choice....doesn't mean it isn't a choice.
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09-29-2021, 02:15 PM
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