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Old 11-09-2022, 02:22 PM
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https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/y...g-with-nothing

An excellent analysis of what has gone wrong. Also the dude likes cats, so that is serendipitous with you lot.
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Originally Posted by golftdibrad
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/y...g-with-nothing

An excellent analysis of what has gone wrong. Also the dude likes cats, so that is serendipitous with you lot.

That is a well thought-out essay.



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Have you seen this Joe?

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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
That is a well thought-out essay.
While this doesn't prove anything, FL bans mail-in voting, ballot harvesting, requires voter ID and Republicans flip Miami-Dade county.

PA sends out 250,000 unverified ballots and a literal retard wins in PA by close margins, however he took 75% of the mail-in vote and 52% of all his votes were mail-in.

Since, like the Fed, we're not allow to question/audit/bad think. I'm just going to smile and nod.

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Originally Posted by Braineack
While this doesn't prove anything, FL bans mail-in voting, ballot harvesting, requires voter ID and Republicans flip Miami-Dade county.

PA sends out 250,000 unverified ballots an a literal retard wins in PA by close margins, however with 75% of the mail-in vote.

Since, like the Fed, we're not allow to question/audit/bad think. I'm just going to smile and nod.
Stop pointing out uncomfortable truths. /scarasm

But for real, this mail in voting thing has got to stop for everyone except those that request it with a valid reason if we want secure elections.

unpopular opinion:
If you can't be bothered to simply show up to a place and vote and flash your free identification card, you don't deserve to exercise this right countless thousands gave their life for. Also only taxpayers should be allowed to vote.
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Originally Posted by golftdibrad
If you can't be bothered to simply show up to a place and vote and flash your free identification card
that's racist, fascist, and a threat to our democracy.


Perhaps the two states most reflective of ‘ballots’ being more important than ‘votes’ are Michigan and Pennsylvania. Despite negative polling and public opinion toward two specific candidates in those states, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Pennsylvania Senate candidate John Fetterman achieved victories.

Whitmer and Fetterman were not campaigning for votes, that is old school. Instead, the machinery behind both candidates focused on the modern path. The Democrat machines in both states focused on ballot collection and ignored the irrelevant votes as cast.

Since the advent of ballot centric focus through mail-in and collection drop-off processes, votes have become increasingly less valuable amid the organizers who wish to control election outcomes. As a direct and specific result, ballot collection has become the key to Democrat party success.

The effort to attain votes for candidates is less important than the strategy of collecting ballots.

It should be emphasized; these are two distinctly different election systems.



The system of ballot distribution and collection is far more susceptible to control than the traditional system of votes cast at precincts.

A vote cannot be cast by a person who is no longer alive, or no longer lives in the area. However, a ballot can be sent, completed and returned regardless of the status of the initially attributed and/or registered individual.

While ballots and votes originate in two totally different processes, the end result of both “ballots” and “votes,” weighing on the presented election outcome, is identical.

While initially the ballot form of election control was tested in Deep Blue states, through the process of mail-in returns under the guise and justification of “expanding democracy,” a useful tool for those who are vested in the distinction, I think we are now starting to see what happens on a national level when the process is expanded.

The controversial 2020 election showed the result of making ‘ballots’ the strategy for electoral success. Under the justification of COVID-19 mitigation, mail-in ballots took center stage. Ballot harvesting by Democrat operations was one term for the outcome.

Democrat party officials and political activist groups knew how to exploit the opportunities within the new system of ballot distribution and collection, and when you combine that with a massive legal pressure campaign to accept any and all forms of ballots, well, you can see how they are dependent.

Now that ballot collection has been shown to be a much more effective way to maintain political power, Democrats in a general sense are less focused on winning votes and more focused on gathering ballots.

When ‘ballot organization’ becomes more important than ‘vote winning,’ you modify your electoral campaign approaches accordingly. It might sound simplistic, but inside the distinct difference between ballots and votes you will find why refusing debates is a successful strategy.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
While this doesn't prove anything...
There seems to be a lot of that going around lately.




Originally Posted by Braineack
FL bans mail-in voting, ballot harvesting, requires voter ID and Republicans flip Miami-Dade county.

PA sends out 250,000 unverified ballots and a literal retard wins in PA by close margins, however he took 75% of the mail-in vote and 52% of all his votes were mail-in.
So, when you restrict access to voting to just white people (as the President has pointed out in the past, black people don't have ID), then the results of an election skew in the direction of a party which principally panders to white people.

But, when you make it easy for everyone to vote, regardless of whether they have ID, easy access to transportation, or jobs which offer them the flexibility to take time off to vote in person, then the outcome of an election favors a party which principally panders to the non-retired / non-wealthy.

This is shocking. Have you submitted this thesis to the Nobel Prize committee?




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Since, like the Fed, we're not allow to question/audit/bad think. I'm just going to smile and nod.






Originally Posted by Braineack
Since the advent of ballot centric focus through mail-in and collection drop-off processes, votes have become increasingly less valuable amid the organizers who wish to control election outcomes. As a direct and specific result, ballot collection has become the key to Democrat party success.
If only pro-Republican forces, and the GOP as a whole, were able to access the postal service...
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
So, when you restrict access to voting to just white people (as the President has pointed out in the past, black people don't have ID), then the results of an election skew in the direction of a party which principally panders to white people.

But, when you make it easy for everyone to vote, regardless of whether they have ID, easy access to transportation, or jobs which offer them the flexibility to take time off to vote in person, then the outcome of an election favors a party which principally panders to the non-retired / non-wealthy.
election month without any verifications whatsoever does make it easier for more votes to be cast, yes.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
election month without any verifications whatsoever does make it easier for more votes to be cast, yes.
You're getting warmer...
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
If only pro-Republican forces, and the GOP as a whole, were able to access the postal service...
How does one know their mail-in ballot was picked up, sorted, delivered, and ultimately cast?

How does one know their drop-off box location was picked up and delivered and ultimately cast?

How does one know their ballot will not be tampered with once dropped off?

How does one know the ballot was filled out by the person whos name is on the ballot?

How does one know the ballot wasn't photocopied or a forgery when casting?

How does one know the name on the ballot, when casting, is no longer a resident?

How does one know the chain of custody of the ballot?

How does one know if a ballot has been "spoiled", the original vote cast is removed from the count?



Just FYI:

A Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research survey published in April looked at mail elections in three states from 1996 to 2018 and found the partisan effect to be “neutral” both in turnout and vote share for either party. The study did say vote-by-mail “modestly increases overall average turnout rate” — something Trump argues will help Democrats — but the study found no party noticeably benefited from it.
This same study claims it's only a 2% increase in voter turnout. Obviously it was studied before the 81 billion trillion thousand showed up.

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Originally Posted by Braineack
How does one know their mail-in ballot was picked up, sorted, delivered, and ultimately cast?

(and a bunch of other "how can we be sure..." type questions)

How does one know that the ballot which they filled out in person, on election day, at their designating polling place, after having shown proper ID, was properly counted?

I ask seriously.

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Originally Posted by Joe Perez

Would you like fries with that?
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Would you like fries with that?
Indeed...

The more I think about Brainey's past few arguments, the more I'm tending to interpret them on the whole, as:

"The voting machines are rigged. Therefore, we should not allow mail-in balloting, and require people to use the rigged voting machines."


Like how, when I vote for french fries at the Chinese-made kiosk machine inside the local McDonalds, because of Russian interference, the ticket-printer behind the counter spits out "apple pie" instead.

And of course there's no audit trail. And how does the machine even know that I am who I say I am? Or that I haven't already voted for french fries at two other McDonalds' that day? Or on previous days, in counties which allow early ordering?

The only real solution, of course, is to go up to the counter and say "french fries" in person, so that the gender-nonconforming lit major behind the counter can push the "french fries" button and make the ticket printer say "apple pie."

That's the traditional way to order fast food, the way In-n-Out still does it, and we need to bring those wholesome Californian values back to America.

Hell, In-n-Out doesn't even serve pie. They don't serve pie, our elected representatives don't serve the people, and the Taliban-themed bakery across the street doesn't serve gays or women.

The way it ought to be.






Disclaimer: I do not actually order french fries at McDonald's. I find their fries sad and unappetizing.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
How does one know that the ballot which they filled out in person, on election day, at their designating polling place, after having shown proper ID, was properly counted?

I ask seriously.
I fill out a paper form, and scan it myself.

All the other variables/unknowns have been eliminated. All the same potential failure points still exist here (like software designed to send ballots into adjudication where a person can change the vote).

But at an in person polling place, my name gets checked off a list and my ballot is scanned. The number of ballots handed out/scanned should never exceed the amount of people checked in. incredibly easy to audit each polling place. If it turned out there was a connection issue and that polling location's ballots were not counted, it would again, be easy to determine and correct.
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The "secret ingredient" in the McD fry oil is silicone. Other brands of fast food have figured it out and started using silicone in their fry oils, too. Yummy.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Disclaimer: I do not actually order french fries at McDonald's. I find their fries sad and unappetizing.
Filthy Communist.
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I remember the old days when McD fries were cooked in good old lard. Unhealthy, maybe, but damned good. They haven't been that way in decades.
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I remember the old days when McD fries were cooked in good old lard. Unhealthy, maybe, but damned good. They haven't been that way in decades.
tallow to be exact.
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