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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 12:27 PM
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I'm thinking the race will not be as close as 2020 and will be easier for MAGA faithful to swallow.
Old Oct 21, 2024 | 12:42 PM
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I really feel like people really forget about this:

https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-ne...7cbb89882d9b5b

Old Oct 21, 2024 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
I really feel like people really forget about this:

https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-ne...7cbb89882d9b5b
Old news, both literally and figuratively.

Gun control isn't hip right now. The leftist talking points du jour are Palestine, abortion, and chemically castrating children.

Heck, even BLM has faded from the spotlight.

Old Oct 21, 2024 | 01:11 PM
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As many here probably know, The Internet Archive was completely offline for about a week recently.

The official explanation was that the site had suffered multiple DDoS attacks, and also a data breach. Speculation, of course, was widespread, with many (myself included) wondering exactly what data was being removed or manipulated during this outage.

The site recently came back online. And there are some... interesting new gaps in the data archived within in. Such as the entirety of blog.twitter.com during the period of early 2019 - late 2023, encompassing the majority of the Biden presidential campaign and subsequent presidency, the COVID-19 situation and all of the various governmental actions committed under the cover of responding to it, etc.




So that's kind of interesting.

Direct link to the source: https://web.archive.org/web/20240000...og.twitter.com


Old Oct 21, 2024 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
As many here probably know, The Internet Archive was completely offline for about a week recently.

The official explanation was that the site had suffered multiple DDoS attacks, and also a data breach. Speculation, of course, was widespread, with many (myself included) wondering exactly what data was being removed or manipulated during this outage.

The site recently came back online. And there are some... interesting new gaps in the data archived within in. Such as the entirety of blog.twitter.com during the period of early 2019 - late 2023, encompassing the majority of the Biden presidential campaign and subsequent presidency, the COVID-19 situation and all of the various governmental actions committed under the cover of responding to it, etc.




So that's kind of interesting.

Direct link to the source: https://web.archive.org/web/20240000...og.twitter.com
An historic victory for Facebook/media outlet fact checkers.
Old Oct 21, 2024 | 02:14 PM
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No one has any faith in harris's ability. She only has being a minority woman going for her. Can't say Trump dislike is a factor because there is an equal number that dislike harris. It's a shame that the media can play up her enough to make it seem plausible that she could win this election.

Again, this was the issue with the 2016 election. Biden was very unpopular and won an election against the most popular president of our time. The total number of votes was not realistic.

Careful what you wish for. More and more I hear CA referred to as a socialist's state and it's not just Republicans making these statements. It is better to learn from other's mistakes than by trial and error. No immigrants from communist countries vote democrat. I grew up in south FL and new many Cuban's.
Old Oct 21, 2024 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
I am genuinely curious to see how both Trump and the hardcore MAGA faithful will deal with the upcoming loss in November.

Like, will there be more claims of fraud and a "stolen" election? Another march on the Capitol building? Or perhaps something completely new and different this time around.
What you saw last election was a Republican party that was not expecting such rampant cheating. When they went to redress their grievances to the judges, they found that they had no standing or that the judges were afraid to take the cases and face the wrath of one side or the other.

This year they've "pre-loaded" the lawfare, brought law suits before the election (which you are seeing now), and if it's proven that the issues aren't redressed during the election they can show that they saw a problem prior to the vote-counting, and now want justice.

Or....they're just another bunch of dumb Republicans that will let the libs roll over them. Again.
Old Oct 21, 2024 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
I am genuinely curious to see how both Trump and the hardcore MAGA faithful will deal with the upcoming loss in November.

Like, will there be more claims of fraud and a "stolen" election? Another march on the Capitol building? Or perhaps something completely new and different this time around.
Frankly, aside from the fucked up mess a Harris victory would bring, I'd be far more concerned with how the libs will react if Trump were to win.

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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cordycord
What you saw last election was a Republican party that was not expecting such rampant cheating. When they went to redress their grievances to the judges, they found that they had no standing or that the judges were afraid to take the cases and face the wrath of one side or the other.

This year they've "pre-loaded" the lawfare, brought law suits before the election (which you are seeing now), and if it's proven that the issues aren't redressed during the election they can show that they saw a problem prior to the vote-counting, and now want justice.

Or....they're just another bunch of dumb Republicans that will let the libs roll over them. Again.
what? no way.





actually i heard its quite common for just the swing states to stop counting ballots for no reason.

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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 03:45 PM
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Less than a month before Black Friday. This might make sense for some...
Old Oct 21, 2024 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by good2go
Frankly, aside from the fucked up mess a Harris victory would bring, I'd be far more concerned with how the libs will react if Trump were to win.
Emmanuel Macron lost the last round of elections. Emmanuel Macron is the current president of France.
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cordycord
Emmanuel Macron lost the last round of elections. Emmanuel Macron is the current president of France.
Huh?

The most recent Presidential election in France was in April 2022. Emmanuel Macon was the #1 candidate in the first round of voting with 27.9%, and received 58.5% of the vote in the second round, beating second-place candidate Marine Le Pen.

Or, was the 2022 French Presidential election stolen, too?
Old Oct 21, 2024 | 06:56 PM
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This guys says he pulled the long form Obama birth certificate from the whitehouse.gov website, and it has been created in Illustrator. He then pulled it apart, via Illustrator.


Here's where I saw it online, and where you can download it:

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

Wish I had Illustrator skills, although if it was a fake this morning, I'm doubting it would be a fake tonight.
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Huh?

The most recent Presidential election in France was in April 2022. Emmanuel Macon was the #1 candidate in the first round of voting with 27.9%, and received 58.5% of the vote in the second round, beating second-place candidate Marine Le Pen.

Or, was the 2022 French Presidential election stolen, too?
You forgot about in 2024 when the legislature was dissolved and the right-wing party won the first vote

But then they had a second vote and the two left wing parties joined forces and won the vote.

You know, cause Europe.
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Originally Posted by cordycord
This guys says he pulled the long form Obama birth certificate from the whitehouse.gov website, and it has been created in Illustrator. He then pulled it apart, via Illustrator.

https://x.com/texan_maga/status/1848418981914247256

Here's where I saw it online, and where you can download it:

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

Wish I had Illustrator skills, although if it was a fake this morning, I'm doubting it would be a fake tonight.
I said that a long time ago.
Old Oct 21, 2024 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
You forgot about in 2024 when the legislature was dissolved and the right-wing party won the first vote

But then they had a second vote and the two left wing parties joined forces and won the vote.

You know, cause Europe.
That one doesn't count. Elections CANNOT be stolen.
Old Oct 21, 2024 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Huh?

The most recent Presidential election in France was in April 2022. Emmanuel Macon was the #1 candidate in the first round of voting with 27.9%, and received 58.5% of the vote in the second round, beating second-place candidate Marine Le Pen.

Or, was the 2022 French Presidential election stolen, too?
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/08/europ...ntl/index.html

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Where does France go from here?

Macron’s first decision is to appoint a new prime minister. He has already delayed this process by declining Gabriel Attal’s resignation, asking him to stay in office for now.

Typically, the French president appoints a prime minister from the largest bloc in parliament. But it is unclear from which party within the NFP this will be. Mélenchon’s party won the most seats within the NFP, but Macron’s allies have repeatedly refused to work with France Unbowed, saying it is just as extreme – and therefore as unfit to govern – as the RN.

In order to reach the majority needed to pass laws, the NFP will likely have to enter into alliances with Ensemble – as two coalitions enter an even larger coalition, straddling vast ideological ground. Finding common ground will be a fraught task, meaning gridlock is likely. Without a clear majority, a minority government faces the risk of no-confidence votes as soon as this month, which could lead to several governments replacing each other.

One way out could be a “technocratic” government, which would involve Macron appointing ministers with no party affiliation to manage day-to-day matters. But these can come to seem undemocratic and can further fan the flames of populism. Just look at Italy: after the premiership of Mario Draghi, the technocrat par excellence, the country elected its most far-right government since Benito Mussolini. While France avoided a far-right government for now, the RN threat is likely to remain strong."

CNN, July 8, 2024
Old Oct 22, 2024 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by cordycord
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/08/europ...ntl/index.html

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Where does France go from here?

Macron’s first decision is to appoint a new prime minister. He has already delayed this process by declining Gabriel Attal’s resignation, asking him to stay in office for now.

Typically, the French president appoints a prime minister from the largest bloc in parliament. But it is unclear from which party within the NFP this will be. Mélenchon’s party won the most seats within the NFP, but Macron’s allies have repeatedly refused to work with France Unbowed, saying it is just as extreme – and therefore as unfit to govern – as the RN.

In order to reach the majority needed to pass laws, the NFP will likely have to enter into alliances with Ensemble – as two coalitions enter an even larger coalition, straddling vast ideological ground. Finding common ground will be a fraught task, meaning gridlock is likely. Without a clear majority, a minority government faces the risk of no-confidence votes as soon as this month, which could lead to several governments replacing each other.

One way out could be a “technocratic” government, which would involve Macron appointing ministers with no party affiliation to manage day-to-day matters. But these can come to seem undemocratic and can further fan the flames of populism. Just look at Italy: after the premiership of Mario Draghi, the technocrat par excellence, the country elected its most far-right government since Benito Mussolini. While France avoided a far-right government for now, the RN threat is likely to remain strong."

CNN, July 8, 2024

Ok, so... which election did Macron lose?




Old Oct 22, 2024 | 06:22 AM
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Macron's victory over Marie LePen was engineered and funded by our government through millions of dollars spent and complicit social media outlets. This, the removal of Bolsonaro in favor of Luna in Brazil, and the coup of the democratically elected leader of the Ukraine and installation of Zelensky were all directly funded and overseen by the CIA, USAID, and other sources of US tax dollars.

It's all discussed at length in the Shawn Ryan Show long-form interview of Mike Benz I posted a few pages back. Public record, not a theory.

BTW, the term "conspiracy theory" was in instructions put out to the press through Project Mockingbird by the CIA after the Kennedy assassination to discredit any theories other than Oswald acted alone.

The CIA also created the Watergate scandal to keep Nixon from successful detente with China and the USSR, among other things, according to recently released information mentioned by another author on the Shawn Ryan Show. Woodward is not a good liar (multiple citations, including saying Mark Felt was Deep Throat) and has likely been a CIA operative from the jump.

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