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Old 06-05-2019, 02:06 PM
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This POS failed to act when he was most needed, but don't know that I'm on board with prosecution for criminal negligence. Feels very political to me, considering what went on with the Sheriff in the media after the fact. SCOTUS has long held that police have no duty to protect a specific individual, so they're bucking case law as well, although I can't remember a case with similar circumstances. Perjury is another story...
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SCOTUS has long held that police have no duty to protect a specific individual, so they're bucking case law as well, although I can't remember a case with similar circumstances.
Exactly. So far as I can tell, this is a case of first impression. While I don't wish any specific harm on Mr. Peterson, I kind of hope that he's convicted so that we'll get to see what the appellate courts have to say on the matter.





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Yes it is strange. However, what have we been led to expect from the role of resource officer? Has it not been portrayed to protect the innocent children from just this sort of event?

I mean, they are also there to handcuff and haul away children that the teachers can no longer control, since corporal punishment has been removed... like, how is that better? But, I digress.

As was mentioned, a policeman is not the same thing as a marine, (or the Secret Service).... maybe the outcome will be to forget resource officers and employ Blackwater to patrol schools.
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Originally Posted by Roda
This POS failed to act when he was most needed, but don't know that I'm on board with prosecution for criminal negligence. Feels very political to me, considering what went on with the Sheriff in the media after the fact. SCOTUS has long held that police have no duty to protect a specific individual, so they're bucking case law as well, although I can't remember a case with similar circumstances. Perjury is another story...
police are trained to stay alive first and foremost, if that means running away, then they are following training perfectly. They have no obligation to help you, only to enforce laws and shoot people/dogs.
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Old 06-05-2019, 06:57 PM
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However, what have we been led to expect from the role of resource officer? Has it not been portrayed to protect the innocent children from just this sort of event?
Here is the full commission report on the Stoneman unpleasantness: http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/MSDHS/CommissionReport.pdf. Within it, we find the following, which appears to be the real answer to the question, insofar as the policies of the relevant jurisdictions are concerned:


The Broward Sheriff’s Office Active Shooter policy (SOP 4.37) states: “If real-time intelligence exists, the sole deputy or a team of deputies may enter the area and/or structure to preserve life. A supervisor’s approval or on-site observation is not required for this decision.” The policy states that the deputy contact team will continue until the subject has surrendered, barricaded himself, the subject’s hostilities have been stopped or the contact team has been relieved by SWAT. This policy was revised on March 28, 2016.


The Coral Springs Police Department active shooter policy (General Order #221) states: “If real-time intelligence exists, the sole officer or team of officers shall enter the area and/or structure to preserve life, and they will be referred to as the contact officer/team.” A significant difference between the two policies is found in two small words.


BSO states that deputies “may” pursue the threat while CSPD’s policy stated officers “shall” pursue the threat. In his testimony to the Commission, Sheriff Israel defended use of the word “may” stating that he wanted his deputies to exercise discretion and he did not want them engaging in “suicide missions.”


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BSO began Active Shooter training in 2007 during its annual in-service training for all law enforcement deputies. All deputies, up to the rank of Colonel, are mandated to attend Active Shooter training.


The 2007 training emphasized a law enforcement rapid response but recommended that deputies wait for backup until a four- or six-man team could be formed. Deputies were instructed to deploy in a “diamond or quad formation” to enter a building. No other deputies were to enter a building when a team was deployed. Other responding deputies were to set up perimeter and evacuation points. In this 2007 training, a deputy’s primary responsibility was to eliminate the threat, and they were not to stop to help injured persons until the environment is safe.


Since Deputy Peterson was a member of the BSO and not the CSPD, it would seem that his conduct was not inconsistent with the policies and training of that department.
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Thanks, Joe.
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:14 AM
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@Braineack , could stuff like screenshots of ignorant people talking about makeup maybe be put in a different thread? It really has very little to do with politics.
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Looks like English / Spanish / French to me.
At the very least a "person of color" who is looking for an excuse to be offended.
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Old 06-06-2019, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
@Braineack , could stuff like screenshots of ignorant people talking about makeup maybe be put in a different thread? It really has very little to do with politics.
racial relations is random current events. especially when they want me to give them free money cause i worked and they are too lazy to even try, when they arent too busy from getting free abortions.

it fits this thread just fine.




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Old 06-06-2019, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
racial relations is random current events. especially when they want me to give them free money cause i worked and they are too lazy to even try, when they arent too busy from getting free abortions.
Seems like it's a better idea for a lazy freeloader to have an abortion than have the child, no?
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
Seems like it's a better idea for a lazy freeloader to have an abortion than have the child, no?
or not get pregnant. we aren't Mary or Shmi.

people NEED consequences; it's a great deterrent. They also need Dads too.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
racial relations is random current events. especially when they want me to give them free money cause i worked and they are too lazy to even try, when they arent too busy from getting free abortions.

it fits this thread just fine.



"They" being.... African Americans, in this case?

There's easily nothing political about the picture Joe called out. At best, it's "hahah funny," which is what i did when i first saw it, though it belongs in another thread.

Then you doubled down calling it racial tension in a way to justify which thread you puked it in, so now, it's at the worst, which is just plain old racism. G r e a t.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
or not get pregnant. we aren't Mary or Shmi.

people NEED consequences; it's a great deterrent. They also need Dads too.
In the present day reality, you get to pick one or the other to take a stand. "Y can't we have both?!?!" isn't reality. Not gonna happen. Make the best of it by choosing a stance you believe in more.

Abortions for All!

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I'm Ok With Supporting All These Precious Babies
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I didn't say it was Political.

I said it was current events.

This is the "Political/Current Events Random, Pics, and Videos Thread"

Racial relations in the US are horrible today -- It's Current Events. Everything today is being labeled as racist -- 99% of the time it's people of color blaming white people for something.

In this instance, Maybelline is racist for using Spanish. Bonus Points, the stupidity level was just plain funny.



I have no problems objectively calling out a problem with black culture in the united states -- especially when I'm the one being targeted as the cause. meanwhile: 13:52. oh no, so racist.






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Originally Posted by concealer404
In the present day reality, you get to pick one or the other to take a stand. "Y can't we have both?!?!" isn't reality. Not gonna happen. Make the best of it by choosing a stance you believe in more.

Abortions for All!

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I'm Ok With Supporting All These Precious Babies

I can make any stance I want, thanks. You always poke in here and tell me what I can or cannot do, or tell me the question I ask is not actually the question...all while maintaining this awesome level of arrogance and moral superiority while you do it.


meanwhile I sleep very easily.


meanwhile:


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Meanwhile:

https://forward.com/fast-forward/425...zCqFGL6o6b3SKg

DC Dyke March Bans Jewish, Israeli Symbols

June 6, 2019 By Aiden Pink

A gay pride parade in Washington, D.C. has been criticized by Jewish and LGBTQ groups for banning Jewish and Israeli symbols from its Friday event.

The D.C. Dyke March is designed to include people of diverse races, religions and gender identities who feel excluded from the more mainstream Pride parade, organizers told The Washington Post.

The march will also ban “nationalist symbols,” including flags that represent what event organizer Yael Horowitz called “nations that have specific oppressive tendencies.”

“This includes Israeli flags, as well as flags that resemble Israeli flags, such as a pride flag with a Star of David in the middle,” Horowitz wrote via Facebook Messenger to would-be participant A.J. Campbell, the founder of the lesbian Jewish group Nice Jewish Girls.

Horowitz said that a Palestinian flag would be permitted.

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also, making things really shitty, or just passing 1 single law, then saying "oh no, weve gone too far cant turn back now, you radical," is directly out of the liberal playbook.
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