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01-23-2020, 03:29 PM
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Like this timely post:
https://babylonbee.com/news/democrat...1r9mreE4VFtm18
https://babylonbee.com/news/democrat...1r9mreE4VFtm18
Democrats Warn That American People May Tamper With Next Election
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01-23-2020, 03:32 PM
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He's asking E.Warren if she's president, if he he can get a refund on the student loans he paid off in full, since she's campaigning on canceling all debts. She tells him absolutely not.
Remember the democratic platform is on buying votes in exchange for power, nothing more.
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01-23-2020, 07:48 PM
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On a more serious note, a bill is presently under consideration in the Virginia state legislature which would make it a crime to criticize the government.
Totally, 100% serious.
After Virginia’s recent anti-second amendment legislation was successfully passed, the state legislature is now going after the first amendment. Virginia House Bill No. 1627 was introduced on January 16 which could effectively make it illegal to criticize government officials anywhere in the state. The Bill reads in part under section 18.2-152.7:1, “Harassment by computer; penalty,”
If any person, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, or harass any person, shall use a computer or computer network to communicate obscene, vulgar, profane, lewd, lascivious, or indecent language, or make any suggestion or proposal of an obscene nature, or threaten any illegal or immoral act, he shall be is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. A violation of this section may be prosecuted in the jurisdiction in which the communication was made or received or in the City of Richmond if the person subjected to the act is one of the following officials or employees of the Commonwealth: the Governor, Governor-elect, Lieutenant Governor, Lieutenant Governor-elect, Attorney General, or Attorney General-elect, a member or employee of the General Assembly, a justice of the Supreme Court of Virginia, or a judge of the Court of Appeals of Virginia.
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Totally, 100% serious.
After Virginia’s recent anti-second amendment legislation was successfully passed, the state legislature is now going after the first amendment. Virginia House Bill No. 1627 was introduced on January 16 which could effectively make it illegal to criticize government officials anywhere in the state. The Bill reads in part under section 18.2-152.7:1, “Harassment by computer; penalty,”
If any person, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, or harass any person, shall use a computer or computer network to communicate obscene, vulgar, profane, lewd, lascivious, or indecent language, or make any suggestion or proposal of an obscene nature, or threaten any illegal or immoral act, he shall be is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. A violation of this section may be prosecuted in the jurisdiction in which the communication was made or received or in the City of Richmond if the person subjected to the act is one of the following officials or employees of the Commonwealth: the Governor, Governor-elect, Lieutenant Governor, Lieutenant Governor-elect, Attorney General, or Attorney General-elect, a member or employee of the General Assembly, a justice of the Supreme Court of Virginia, or a judge of the Court of Appeals of Virginia.
Bill Tracking - 2020 session > Legislation
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01-24-2020, 09:49 AM
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On a more serious note, a bill is presently under consideration in the Virginia state legislature which would make it a crime to criticize the government.
Totally, 100% serious.
After Virginia’s recent anti-second amendment legislation was successfully passed, the state legislature is now going after the first amendment. Virginia House Bill No. 1627 was introduced on January 16 which could effectively make it illegal to criticize government officials anywhere in the state. The Bill reads in part under section 18.2-152.7:1, “Harassment by computer; penalty,”
If any person, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, or harass any person, shall use a computer or computer network to communicate obscene, vulgar, profane, lewd, lascivious, or indecent language, or make any suggestion or proposal of an obscene nature, or threaten any illegal or immoral act, he shall be is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. A violation of this section may be prosecuted in the jurisdiction in which the communication was made or received or in the City of Richmond if the person subjected to the act is one of the following officials or employees of the Commonwealth: the Governor, Governor-elect, Lieutenant Governor, Lieutenant Governor-elect, Attorney General, or Attorney General-elect, a member or employee of the General Assembly, a justice of the Supreme Court of Virginia, or a judge of the Court of Appeals of Virginia.
Bill Tracking - 2020 session > Legislation
Totally, 100% serious.
After Virginia’s recent anti-second amendment legislation was successfully passed, the state legislature is now going after the first amendment. Virginia House Bill No. 1627 was introduced on January 16 which could effectively make it illegal to criticize government officials anywhere in the state. The Bill reads in part under section 18.2-152.7:1, “Harassment by computer; penalty,”
If any person, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, or harass any person, shall use a computer or computer network to communicate obscene, vulgar, profane, lewd, lascivious, or indecent language, or make any suggestion or proposal of an obscene nature, or threaten any illegal or immoral act, he shall be is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. A violation of this section may be prosecuted in the jurisdiction in which the communication was made or received or in the City of Richmond if the person subjected to the act is one of the following officials or employees of the Commonwealth: the Governor, Governor-elect, Lieutenant Governor, Lieutenant Governor-elect, Attorney General, or Attorney General-elect, a member or employee of the General Assembly, a justice of the Supreme Court of Virginia, or a judge of the Court of Appeals of Virginia.
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Isn't threatening speech already against Federal law? Regardless of who is the target of it?
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01-24-2020, 09:59 AM
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I can't recall the last time which that mattered to democratic legislators at the state level.
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01-24-2020, 10:27 AM
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Good point. How about "case law surrounding the 1st Amendment" has shown that threatening speech is already against the law.
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01-24-2020, 10:57 AM
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VA has plenty of anti-1A laws on the books. This isn't news for us. As a blue state, we embrace freedom through fascism.
Code 1950, § 18.1-237; 1960, c. 358; 1964, c. 434; 1975, cc. 14, 15; 1979, c. 654; 1982, c. 666; 1983, c. 187; 1990, c. 965.
of course "curses or swears" isn't defined. This way, the state's button-men [police] can use their training in escalation and get you worked up when they illegally detain you, get you to yell at them, and have something to actually charge you with to collect their $250 tax.
§ 18.2-388. Profane swearing and intoxication in public; penalty; transportation of public inebriates to detoxification center.
If any person profanely curses or swears or is intoxicated in public, whether such intoxication results from alcohol, narcotic drug or other intoxicant or drug of whatever nature, he shall be deemed guilty of a Class 4 misdemeanor. In any area in which there is located a court-approved detoxification center a law-enforcement officer may authorize the transportation, by police or otherwise, of public inebriates to such detoxification center in lieu of arrest; however, no person shall be involuntarily detained in such center.Code 1950, § 18.1-237; 1960, c. 358; 1964, c. 434; 1975, cc. 14, 15; 1979, c. 654; 1982, c. 666; 1983, c. 187; 1990, c. 965.
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01-24-2020, 11:03 AM
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For instance: "with the intent to harass (...) profane language,"
Harassing public officials is pretty much exactly what the freedom of assembly clause protects, inasmuch as standing outside a public building, holding signs and shouting things expressing your displeasure with a specific law or policy, could easily be deemed harassment by the elected official on the receiving end of of such expression.
And the use of profane language, in pretty much any context, has been ruled time and time again to be protected speech, especially when uttered in a political context.
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01-24-2020, 12:27 PM
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The issue is that this isn't just about threatening speech. It's extremely broad, and can be interpreted in many ways.
For instance: "with the intent to harass (...) profane language,"
Harassing public officials is pretty much exactly what the freedom of assembly clause protects, inasmuch as standing outside a public building, holding signs and shouting things expressing your displeasure with a specific law or policy, could easily be deemed harassment by the elected official on the receiving end of of such expression.
And the use of profane language, in pretty much any context, has been ruled time and time again to be protected speech, especially when uttered in a political context.
For instance: "with the intent to harass (...) profane language,"
Harassing public officials is pretty much exactly what the freedom of assembly clause protects, inasmuch as standing outside a public building, holding signs and shouting things expressing your displeasure with a specific law or policy, could easily be deemed harassment by the elected official on the receiving end of of such expression.
And the use of profane language, in pretty much any context, has been ruled time and time again to be protected speech, especially when uttered in a political context.
Makes sense.
On a side note: I have decided I want the Democrat nominee to win the election. But I want them to lose the popular vote and win by the Electoral College, so I can see the hypocrisy on all the lefties face about how it needs to be dismantled.
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01-24-2020, 12:41 PM
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Looks like we are teaching our kids that mental illness is okay, in schools now too!
One bill will allow transgender people to be issued new birth certificates that are not based on the sex of their birth. Even if they have not surgically altered their sex, they will still be able to get the new birth certificate.
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Another bill involves mandating public schools in Virginia to have policies regarding transgender education. Left-wing bureaucrats at the state department of education will now be tasked with developing policies related to transgender individuals at schools. This could involve education that indoctrinates young children into this dangerous lifestyle that often leads to suicide and disease.
Other bills include a ban on conversion therapy for anyone under the age of 18, which will likely make it impossible for children with gender dysphoria to receive any treatment other than drugging and mutilation. Another bill contains language formally repealing gay marriage, which was already invalidated by the Supreme Court.
I do think it's pretty cool, some leftist can just invent **** up, and in a year or so it's not only normalized, but legally forced and encouraged. Ultimately, this is all leading up to legalizing pedophilia -- the ultimate end-goal of the left.
Virginia Senate Passes Transgender Educational Mandates for Children and Other Pro-LGBT Measures
...One bill will allow transgender people to be issued new birth certificates that are not based on the sex of their birth. Even if they have not surgically altered their sex, they will still be able to get the new birth certificate.
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Another bill involves mandating public schools in Virginia to have policies regarding transgender education. Left-wing bureaucrats at the state department of education will now be tasked with developing policies related to transgender individuals at schools. This could involve education that indoctrinates young children into this dangerous lifestyle that often leads to suicide and disease.
Other bills include a ban on conversion therapy for anyone under the age of 18, which will likely make it impossible for children with gender dysphoria to receive any treatment other than drugging and mutilation. Another bill contains language formally repealing gay marriage, which was already invalidated by the Supreme Court.
I do think it's pretty cool, some leftist can just invent **** up, and in a year or so it's not only normalized, but legally forced and encouraged. Ultimately, this is all leading up to legalizing pedophilia -- the ultimate end-goal of the left.
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01-24-2020, 03:00 PM
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more about Calivirginia:
S.B.94 just passed! What does this mean? In short ... your TAXES are going up even more.
This bill mandates that every Virginian use renewable energy by 2040-2050. This sounds great for those who desire to be good stewards of our resources, but it’s going to force ALL sectors to use energy from sun, wind, water, animal farts! Ha!
This is MASSIVELY EXPENSIVE. Your taxes will increase in many sectors under hidden subtitles, and will require homes, businesses and transportation across Virginian to use solar panels, windmills or hydro compulsion.
Pay attention to the last sentence.
Below is the bill in its summary:
‘Virginia Energy Plan; Commonwealth Energy Policy. States that the Commonwealth Energy Policy shall include:
(i) establishing greenhouse gas emissions reduction standards across all sectors of Virginia's economy that target net zero carbon emissions by mid-century;
(ii) enacting mandatory clean energy standards and overall strategies for reaching zero carbon in the electric power sector by 2040;
(iii) incorporating requirements for technical, policy, and economic analyses and assessments that identify pathways to zero carbon that maximize Virginia's economic development and create quality jobs; and
(iv) minimizing the negative impacts of climate change and the energy transition on disadvantaged communities and prioritizing investment in these areas.
The measure requires the Virginia Energy Plan to be prepared in consultation with a stakeholder group that includes representatives of consumer and environmental organizations.
The measure also requires that the Virginia Energy Plan identify actions over a 10-year period consistent with the goal of the Commonwealth Energy Policy to achieve, no later than 2050, a net-zero carbon energy economy for all sectors, including electricity, transportation, building, and industrial sectors.’
This bill mandates that every Virginian use renewable energy by 2040-2050. This sounds great for those who desire to be good stewards of our resources, but it’s going to force ALL sectors to use energy from sun, wind, water, animal farts! Ha!
This is MASSIVELY EXPENSIVE. Your taxes will increase in many sectors under hidden subtitles, and will require homes, businesses and transportation across Virginian to use solar panels, windmills or hydro compulsion.
Pay attention to the last sentence.
Below is the bill in its summary:
‘Virginia Energy Plan; Commonwealth Energy Policy. States that the Commonwealth Energy Policy shall include:
(i) establishing greenhouse gas emissions reduction standards across all sectors of Virginia's economy that target net zero carbon emissions by mid-century;
(ii) enacting mandatory clean energy standards and overall strategies for reaching zero carbon in the electric power sector by 2040;
(iii) incorporating requirements for technical, policy, and economic analyses and assessments that identify pathways to zero carbon that maximize Virginia's economic development and create quality jobs; and
(iv) minimizing the negative impacts of climate change and the energy transition on disadvantaged communities and prioritizing investment in these areas.
The measure requires the Virginia Energy Plan to be prepared in consultation with a stakeholder group that includes representatives of consumer and environmental organizations.
The measure also requires that the Virginia Energy Plan identify actions over a 10-year period consistent with the goal of the Commonwealth Energy Policy to achieve, no later than 2050, a net-zero carbon energy economy for all sectors, including electricity, transportation, building, and industrial sectors.’
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01-24-2020, 03:21 PM
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If only there were a proven and mature technology which allowed for reliable, 24/7 power generation, with zero fossil input, zero carbon output, and a geographical footprint similar to (or smaller than) a coal-fired power plant of equivalent generating capacity...
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01-24-2020, 03:33 PM
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We don't wanna be a commonwealth anymore [government based on the common consent of the people], just a good 'ol fascist state run by governor.
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