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they are very over-represented in many categories despite being only 13% of the population.
Looks like they are 54.2% of all robbery arrests, not 52%...my mistake.
They are over represented because when you have situations like stop and frisk, which blatantly and unfairly target the black and unrepresented population, then this is the outcome.
The New York police force targeted blacks overwhelmingly more than their lighter skin counterparts. Ofcourse the numbers are going to skew the way they are.
P.S I advise you to go read up on the "war on drugs" and how sentences for Crack (which was widely available to the poorer black communities) GREATLY outweighed the sentences for folks caught with Cocaine (a drug much more associated with rich white affluent folks who could afford it).
In 1986, Congress passed the Anti-Drug Abuse Act, which established mandatory minimum prison sentences for certain drug offenses. This law was later heavily criticized as having racist ramifications because it allocated longer prison sentences for offenses involving the same amount of crack cocaine (used more often by black Americans) as powder cocaine (used more often by white Americans). Five grams of crack triggered an automatic five-year sentence, while it took 500 grams of powder cocaine to merit the same sentence.
Blacks are much more likely to get a charge after going through trial than their white counterparts. Your crime stat would be more beneficial to include such info.
Again, another random blanket stat to seemingly continue the narrative of your racist posts. As I said; nuanced discussion is what is lacking in American culture currently.......
So let me ask you this; if you car blows up do you go about diagnosing the issue or you just sum it up to some random post on the interwebs with cats and just say "blew up because too much oil!!"
No, you go forth and you see WHY the car blew up. Same deal here. The "WHY in terms of why Blacks folks are over represented in prisons is because they are OVERWHELMINGLY targeted, be it by laws, prejudice or just plain racism. NOT because they are inherently bad individuals. Or in terms of this analogy, because you added too much oil. Or as you put it "52%" are inherently bad.
But please do continue your totally unjustified rants. There is a reason this thread has become your "echo chamber" that has more than "52%" of the posts (and subsequent responses) coming from Braineack......
The FACT is, BLACKS are targeted. That is a FACT in and of itself and I have provided sufficient evidence to support this. And this outside of the 2 videos you posted.
you provided, literally, zero supporting evidence btw -- just a really shitty analogy that tip-toes around an issue youre too uncomfortable actually addressing because you think it makes you racist if you believe facts. If you can't attack this reality head on and address it for what it is, then you're not doing them any favors. Kinda like the 40% suicide rate by trans youth...
I actually heard that White Police officers actually provide guns to black youth so they kill each other, then arrest them for it to keep them in jail. There can be no other explanation for the CDC causes of death for Blacks in the US belo:
you provided, literally, zero supporting evidence btw -- just a really shitty analogy that tip-toes around an issue youre too uncomfortable actually addressing because you think it makes you racist if you believe facts.
Here, let me help you as it seems I may have triggered your response
In 1986, Congress passed the Anti-Drug Abuse Act, which established mandatory minimum prison sentences for certain drug offenses. This law was later heavily criticized as having racist ramifications because it allocated longer prison sentences for offenses involving the same amount of crack cocaine (used more often by black Americans) as powder cocaine (used more often by white Americans). Five grams of crack triggered an automatic five-year sentence, while it took 500 grams of powder cocaine to merit the same sentence.
You can thank me later lol
This is just ONE example of many on how black folks are demonized and systematically oppressed. When you are born to parents who are systematically railed by the system, this is the outcome. Do I condone criminality?? NO. However, when the system beats you down and leaves you with minimal options, you turn to a life of crime. Prison should be about reform, not incarceration. And with this, not painted with a broad brush of being #thugs.
Harsher punishment for crack cocaine over powder cocaine happened specifically through the support of black community leaders and black lawmakers. Also, anyone who says that the 13:52 disparity is false and is significantly impacted by targeting by law enforcement hasn't practiced law enforcement in a diversely populated city.
13:52 is a result of long-term multi-generational "anti-whiteness"
Harsher punishment for crack cocaine over powder cocaine happened specifically through the support of black community leaders and black lawmakers. Also, anyone who says that the 13:52 disparity is false and is significantly impacted by targeting by law enforcement hasn't practiced law enforcement in a diversely populated city.
13:52 is a result of long-term multi-generational "anti-whiteness"
So lets dissect this statement a bit. As the crack epidemic took hold of the black community in the inner cities of New York, several prolific leaders pushed for harsher drug laws to revolve mostly around the kingpins of the era who distributed and sold drugs within the community and decimated the community in the process. The folk were so desperate change.
However even some of the staunchest supporters of mandatory minimums saw that these policies had badly backfired, in part because they lumped addicts and small-time dealers with drug kingpins and violent gang leaders. And they also consigned countless African-American men to prisons across the country.
IMHO, addiction should be treated as a "mental problem" and rehabilitated. Not lumped together with violent offenders. That in and of itself accounted for a majority of the black population in prison. The decriminalization of a majority of the illicit substances worked well in Protugal where it was treated as a mental illness and folks were rehabilitated as opposed to shoved in prisons. Incarceration rates fell by 40% over the 1.5 decades it was instated. Why are we not investigating this model here in the US?? Oh because prison models are for profit.....
Oh, and I finally had time to digest the link Braineack posted. It would behoove him if he actually read his own link as it paints a MUCH different picture than his posts states...
Brainecak literally (be it intentionally or not) mischaracterized his own link and focused on a single number; under 18 Murder and non negligent manslaughter and literally used that single number to paint a broad brush of the black population. And since he is keen on NOT addressing the full stats, here, Let me post a more detailed screen cap. The White population by far and large make up a MAJORITY of the crimes committed and subsequently arrested for. HOWEVER, as I mentioned, does not translate to the incarceration rate.
This is a straight FBI stat. Not me pulling this from my ***. Braineck was kind enough to provide this very stat to refute his own racist post....But you know what, I do not use that stat to paint the entire white population as "pigs". No. Because there is much more to it than arrest rates....
fooger, can you please explain that "13:52" is multigenerational "anti-whitness"?? I may be misinterpreting your post.
Genuine question as depending on the user of the term, it quickly degrades into....
The number 13 used in conjunction with either the number 52 or the number 90 is a shorthand reference to racist propaganda claims by white supremacists against African-Americans to depict them as savage and criminal in nature.
In this numeric shorthand, the number 13 refers to the purported percentage of the U.S. population that is African-American. The number 52 refers to the alleged percentage of all murders committed in the U.S. that are committed by African-Americans. Some white supremacists use the number 50 instead of 52.
Similarly, white supremacists claim the number 90 refers to the percentage of violent interracial crime allegedly committed by African-Americans. Some white supremacists cite the 1994 National Crime Victimization Survey produced by the Justice Department as evidence for the percentage. However, this figure does not show up in the survey itself and is not considered an accurate one. In any case, it should be noted that the vast majority of violent crime is intraracial (committed by a person of one race against a person of the same race), not interracial, in nature.
White supremacists typically employ references to 13 (by itself), 13/50, 13/52 or 13/90 in response to social media posts, and in the comments sections of news stories about crimes in which the suspected perpetrator is African-American. In some instances, white supremacists use the numbers as a purported police radio code, using language like, “We have a 1390 in progress.”
Brainecak literally (be it intentionally or not) mischaracterized his own link and focused on a single number; under 18 Murder and non negligent manslaughter and literally used that single number to paint a broad brush of the black population.
I didn't mischaracterize anything. I even mentioned in post #17188, that I misquoted ROBBERY stats, that it's actually 54.2%.
They are even over-represented in "white-collar" categories such as counterfeiting, fraud, and embezzlement.
I don't need to use just one single number, I can quote stats, from various sources, all day long -- it all adds up to a destructive, downward spiraling, harmful culture. You can try to convince yourself all you want that's it's the fault of racist justice system and law enforcement, but you're not doing the black community any favors making up more ridiculous excuses for them.
These are well-documented trends spanning decades. This cannot be explained away by racist cops and prosecutors. If that premise was correct, things surely would have gotten better since the Jim Crow era, not par-for-the-course, while at the same time the most violent cities full of black crime are actually run and controlled by black Americans in the governments.
You actually think black people are out shooting each other in Chicago because they could get locked up for crack longer than a white person?! FWIW, whitey only makes up 50% of the police force in Chicago...
And since he is keen on NOT addressing the full stats, here, Let me post a more detailed screen cap. The White population by far and large make up a MAJORITY of the crimes committed and subsequently arrested for. HOWEVER, as I mentioned, does not translate to the incarceration rate.
You're missing the whole point, the 52% number is despite them only being 13% of the population. Again in post 17188, I mention they are statistically over-represented.
It is not racist to talk about this. It's not racist to frown on it. But I get it, you're a liberal, so that's all you can see -- but little do you know, I identify as black, so I can say these things...
I post a lot of **** here, specifically **** I don't like and think is destructive to the future of the US. I've been posting flash mob videos here since the start of this thread -- it's not my fault that a vast majority of the time, it's committed by black youth. There is a huge problem with black culture in America, and again, you're not helping by the position you're taking.
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