Braineack

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I'm not. The Palm Beach settlement was brought up by the NYAG in her case [#1 above]...

I was saying: [According to the NYAG] disputes settled against the defense is supposed to be paid for BY THE Defense(in this case, trump or trumps estate personally)!! NOT the charity used solely setup for charitable donations...

RalliartRsX

......Due to what NYAG uncovered during their investigation. The NYAG ruling had no bearing on the Mar-A lago or Palm Beach cases. In essence, the nefarious activities predates trump's 2016 campaign and the NYAG case.

RalliartRsX

Braineack, you asked for examples. We provided you examples. What more would you like??

Braineack

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not much.

Braineack

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https://www.boston25news.com/news/un...TgnowhWuKKh7Cc

RalliartRsX

And when since, be it undocumented or not, has someone been arrested for not having a license?? Isn't it typically a non moving violation and a fine?? A non moving violation is NOT a felony and not immediate grounds for deportation. It's simply a monetary fine.

Also, unless fully disclosed, how are the officers to confirm the person they pulled over is indeed undocumented?? Just like how someone could have easily left their license (or subsequently wallet or in terms of women a clutch (or similar) since woman have multiple purses for instance) at home, they could also have left their documentation (which is also bull ****. Who carries around their greencard, passport or just documentation papers in.............Boston. As far away from the Southern border as one could possibly be) at home as well.

All the hooplay about "documentation" is simply a cover up to target folks and ofcourse profile folks who have similar physical features (and speak) Spanish.

It's like stop and frisk; hey, that guy looks black, tv has sensationalized black gangsters, he must be a criminal! Quick, arrest him for resisting arrest........

Joe Perez

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Here's a list of penalties by state: https://www.carinsurance.com/Article...-by-state.aspx

In most states, it's a misdemeanor arrest with jail time. It's a felony in a few states.

RalliartRsX

^^ Which still leads me to my initial question; what mechanism does the officer have available to them to determine if an individual didn't simply leave their license at home vs legitimately not owning a license??

Joe Perez

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The computer attached to the dashboard of the cruiser.

RalliartRsX

Correct. However, this information is garnered from either a license (which I have left at home) or insurance/registration as both are linked through DMV and police database records.

So the next "identifying" document is registration/insurance. How will that be parlayed into the stopped individual being illegal is the paperwork is in the name of someone legal and I left my licenses at home??

Also according to your link, it is a misdemeanor (with potential jail time) in MA. However, doesn't fall under the purvue of a "serious" misdemeanor (aggravated assault, etc)

Which also brings me to; to what extent are misdemeanors a deportable offense. Found this information on an obscure site, but will have to track this down later this evening (through ICE, TSA, etc)
https://immigration.findlaw.com/deportation-removal/can-you-get-deported-for-a-misdemeanor-.html

My concern is; the fact that an individual does not have a license, will be potentially used against them for deportation (especially if they have no priors).

RalliartRsX

In all honesty, I more have a problem with the completely broken immigration system (when I hear people say "go stand in line like all the others" which is complete an utter bullshit ad it can take up to 10+ years to get just a greencard.or 5+ years just to get your case heard) and how it thrarts immigration. The US was built off the backs of "immigrants" :(

My issue here is more of a projection for the broken immigration system as opposed to simply not having a license and the barriers associated with getting one :(

z31maniac

Yawn. Look at what is expected to become a Citizen of Mexico. Definitely don't look at countries like Switzerland. Where you have to have a job to get housing, then maintain permanent residence for a decade before you can apply. I'm tired of hearing the US system is so harsh and unfair. All the lefties that call Trump racist were still openly for securing the borders just a few years ago.



Pro Tip: You're impassioned debates, Brain cares not.

bahurd

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Police officers have a lot of discretion in a stop (in case you haven’t figured that out). At one end is the house wife with kids in the car who left her purse at home (maybe report to the police dept to show license, maybe a warning) to a guy stopped for speeding (ticket for the speed + no license) to the car/van full of people who don’t speak the language well and have no license on them (generally call for supervisor + could end up with an arrest). No doubt I’m forgetting a bunch...

Bottom line, how you react to the questions determines the results.

Traffic misdedmeanors aren’t deportable, being in the country without having permission to be here is and in literally any country I can think of.

The US was built off the backs of legal immigrants.

triple88a

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Sooo did you guys hear this clown show?

For the ones that dont know... Rod Blagojevich was caught on camera trying to sell Obamas senate seat after the election..
I forgot the name of the other dude that scammed the irs for half a mill.. the article i saw about it showed the proof that his family donated 200k to trump before the pardon..

Trump Grants Clemency To 11, Including Michael Milken And Rod Blagojevich

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump...k4rhWKn_D4sMzM

Joe Perez

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Welcome to Chicago.


Totally, 100% serious: This is the reality in which we live. I manage a TV station in Chicago (Obamahome). If you want to build something that extends into permit-territory, you pay the man and you get your papers. This isn't a secret, it's openly published in the city records.

We're slowly evolving out of the late 19th / early 20th century policies which were begat from a century of mob rule. But the underlying tenets still remain. If you want to get something done, you have to grease a few palms. I'm not saying that it's right, merely acknowledging that it's the reality of this specific place and time.


So... anyone who pretends to be surprised that an Illinois politician was auctioning off the seat of another Illinois politician to the highest bidder is basically just hanging a sign on themself which reads "I'm a newb who can't differentiate reality from fantasy."

And, again, to reiterate: I don't agree with this philosophy. But, on the other hand, I also don't have an army at my disposal to enforce my idealistic views.

People who don't live in Chicago may find it difficult to really comprehend that "the mafia" isn't just a fictitious thing which exists only in movies.

z31maniac

It's astonishing, but I guess outside of a few big areas, many people don't have stuff like this happen. Although in Tulsa it was the Irish mob from Boston that knocked someone off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_..._(businessman)

The rear entrance to Southern Hills is still closed to this day.

Braineack

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Do you rather he pardon thousands of terrorists, murders, and cocaine/meth peddlers?

shuiend

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Roger Stone was just sentenced. Here is the court footage.

triple88a

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Why is that the option? I'd rather have him not pardon anyone that's a criminal and in jail after being proven of his/her crimes...

triple88a

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