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Old 09-11-2020, 09:35 AM
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Imagine sitting on your throne, ordering the deaths of thousands of elderly people, and then blaming someone else just to advance politically.
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Originally Posted by Enginerd
What’s a good home defense shotgun?
Ready for a big thread drift? None of them.... just buy a handgun.

Most home intruders that are going to flee at the sound of a shotgun 'rack' will do the same if you simply turn on a light. It's the ones that know you are there, and don't care, that you really have to worry about. I'd rather have tactical surprise on my side than telegraph my position and intent to someone on the other side of a door.

First, shotguns are large and cumbersome in a home environment. They have heavy recoil. At in-home distances, they still need to be aimed, having about a 3-4" pattern with buckshot across the length of a typical home. Clearing corners with shotguns is difficult, and creates a situation where they are easy to defeat at contact distances. Most hold 3-4 rounds, and increasing that capacity makes them even more unwieldy. The Mossberg linked above is a pistol grip shotgun... probably the most difficult type to employ effectively, especially for folks who don't train regulary. And I can tell you, you're not going to want to train with any regularity on a pistol grip 12ga.

Second, pump shotguns require a number of fine motor skills to keep them running after those first 3-4 shots. One of the first things that goes under stress is fine motor skills. I've trained professionals for going on 25 years, and there are very few that can keep a pump shotgun effective in a fight for more than 3-4 rounds past the magazine capacity.

Sure, there's specialty shotguns, and short-barreled NFA stuff that will work a little better, but most aren't going that route.

Buy a handgun, and train with it. It's much easier to operate effectively in a residential environment, easier to shoot, easier to store/secure and holds way more rounds without having to reload.




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'This is in my bones': Maximo Alvarez says Joe Biden is influenced by 'communists' under guise of 'socialism'

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| September 09, 2020 04:43 PMCuban-born Maximo Alvarez, whose parents fled Fidel Castro’s regime, said Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden is “influenced by radical people.”

“I will no longer use the word ‘socialist’ because this happened in my country, this is in my bones, this is in my body. Socialism is just a name that communists use to fool you. And Mr. Biden may be or may not be, but I'm telling you, his policies, he's being totally influenced by radical people,” Alvarez told Fox News’s Bill Hemmer on Wednesday.

Alvarez fled Cuba to the United States in 1961 as part of Operation Pedro Pan, which brought more than 14,000 minors to the U.S. as dictator Fidel Castro rose in power in Cuba. He went on to found Sunshine Gasoline Distributors in South Florida.

Alvarez said that countries such as Cuba and Venezuela have been destroyed by communism and warned the same could hit the U.S. if President Trump doesn’t continue “putting America first.”

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Originally Posted by Braineack
Pretty similar to my own family history, and to the stories I heard as a kid. Back then, of course, things like Medicare were the closest we (in the US) had to socialism.


Now that all of these far-left folks are discovering the miracle of constitutionally-protected firearm ownership, I wonder how they'd feel about purchasing guns via mail.

Nah, too risky. There might be fraud. Better to have in-person transactions and an ID check.
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whoa, someone go the headline correct:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-BchqKhwiQqpwk

Senate Democrats block $300 billion coronavirus stimulus package, leaving little hope for relief before November

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ORANGE MAN RUINS EVERYTHING!




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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/08/m...t-picture.html

Academy Explains Diversity Rules for Best Picture Oscar

Beginning in 2022, films aiming for the top award will have to turn in a confidential “inclusion standard form.” In 2024, they will have to meet two of four standards.
you can no longer earn best picture. brokering peace is violence.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
You yet again should actually check what you are posting. This image is fake. The dealership owner did not kill themselves.

https://www.truthorfiction.com/kenos...-blm-protests/
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Originally Posted by shuiend
You yet again should actually check what you are posting. This image is fake. The dealership owner did not kill themselves.

https://www.truthorfiction.com/kenos...-blm-protests/
Fact-checking is a buzzkill when you have a narrative to push.


Anyway...

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Fact-checking is a buzzkill when you have a narrative to push.

true.



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https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/...48dgjJDQRFrNbU

Two Los Angeles County deputies are fighting for their lives after they were ambushed and shot in the head



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Liberals are subhumans who need to be wiped off the planet. It's the only way to save ourselves from the world's deadliest disease.

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