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Braineack 08-22-2014 04:40 PM

recurring theme: policing our sci-fi loving citizens

Student Jailed After Writing Story About Killing Dinosaur with Gun | Ben Swann Truth In Media


a Summerville, South Carolina student was suspended from Summerville High School and arrested by police after he wrote a fictional story about killing a dinosaur with a gun for a class writing assignment. Last Tuesday, 16-year-old Alex Stone was asked by his teacher to write a paragraph describing himself, followed by another sentence in the style of a Facebook status. Stone attempted to take a comedic approach to the assignment.

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Aylor is fighting the disorderly conduct charge and is attempting to appeal Stone’s week-long suspension from school.

mgeoffriau 08-22-2014 07:03 PM

Remember folks, it's just a few bad apples.


What I've Learned from Two Years Collecting Data on Police Killings


It began simply enough. Commuting home from my work at Reno's alt-weekly newspaper, the News & Review, on May 18, 2012, I drove past the aftermath of a police shooting—in this case, that of a man named Jace Herndon. It was a chaotic scene, and I couldn't help but wonder how often it happened.

I went home and grabbed my laptop and a glass of wine and tried to find out. I found nothing—a failure I simply chalked up to incompetent local media.

A few months later I read about the Dec. 6, 2012, killing of a naked and unarmed 18-year-old college student, Gil Collar, by University of South Alabama police. The killing had attracted national coverage—The New York Times, the Associated Press, CNN—but there was still no context being provided—no figures examining how many people are killed by police.

I started to search in earnest. Nowhere could I find out how many people died during interactions with police in the United States. Try as I might, I just couldn't wrap my head around that idea. How was it that, in the 21st century, this data wasn't being tracked, compiled, and made available to the public? How could journalists know if police were killing too many people in their town if they didn't have a way to compare to other cities? Hell, how could citizens or police? How could cops possibly know "best practices" for dealing with any fluid situation? They couldn't.

The bottom line was that I found the absence of such a library of police killings offensive. And so I decided to build it. I'm still building it. But I could use some help. You can find my growing database of deadly police violence here, at Fatal Encounters, and I invite you to go here, research one of the listed shootings, fill out the row, and change its background color. It'll take you about 25 minutes. There are thousands to choose from, and another 2,000 or so on my cloud drive that I haven't even added yet. After I fact-check and fill in the cracks, your contribution will be added to largest database about police violence in the country. Feel free to check out what has been collected about your locale's information here.

The biggest thing I've taken away from this project is something I'll never be able to prove, but I'm convinced to my core: The lack of such a database is intentional. No government—not the federal government, and not the thousands of municipalities that give their police forces license to use deadly force—wants you to know how many people it kills and why.

It's the only conclusion that can be drawn from the evidence. What evidence? In attempting to collect this information, I was lied to and delayed by the FBI, even when I was only trying to find out the addresses of police departments to make public records requests. The government collects millions of bits of data annually about law enforcement in its Uniform Crime Report, but it doesn't collect information about the most consequential act a law enforcer can do.

I've been lied to and delayed by state, county and local law enforcement agencies—almost every time. They've blatantly broken public records laws, and then thumbed their authoritarian noses at the temerity of a citizen asking for information that might embarrass the agency. And these are the people in charge of enforcing the law.

The second biggest thing I learned is that bad journalism colludes with police to hide this information. The primary reason for this is that police will cut off information to reporters who tell tales. And a reporter can't work if he or she can't talk to sources. It happened to me on almost every level as I advanced this year-long Fatal Encounters series through the News & Review. First they talk; then they stop, then they roadblock.

Take Philadelphia for example. In Philadelphia, the police generally don't disclose the names of victims of police violence, and they don't disclose the names of police officers who kill people. What reporter has time to go to the most dangerous sections of town to try to find someone who knows the name of the victim or the details of a killing? At night, on deadline, are you kidding? So with no victim and no officer, there's no real story, but the information is known, consumed and mulled over in an ever-darkening cloud of neighborhood anger.

Many Gawker readers watched in horror as Albuquerque police killed James Boyd, a homeless man, for illegal camping. Look at these stats, though (I don't know if they're comprehensive; I believe they are): In Bernallilo County, N.M., three people were killed by police in 2012; in 2013, five. In Shelby County, Tenn., nine people were killed by police in 2012; in 2013, 11.

Who the hell knew Memphis Police were killing men at more than double the rate the cops were killing people in Albuquerque? But when I emailed the reporter at the Memphis Commercial Appeal to track the numbers back further, I got no response. I bought a subscription, but haven't been able return to research in that region. (Why don't you help me out? Just do a last name search here before you dig in.)

There are many other ways that bad or sloppy journalism undermines the ability of researchers to gather data on police shootings. Reporters make fundamental errors or typos; they accept police excuses for not releasing names of the dead or the shooters, or don't publish the decedents' names even if they're released; they don't publish police or coroner's reports. Sometimes they don't show their work: This otherwise excellent St. Louis Post-Dispatch article claims there were 15 fatal shooting cases involving law enforcement agencies between January 2007 to September 30, 2011—but provides few names and dates for further research efforts.

And that list doesn't even get into fundamental errors in attitude toward police killing—for example, the tendency of large outlets and wire services to treat killings as local matters, and not worth tracking widely. Even though police brutality is a national crisis. Journalists also don't generally report the race of the person killed. Why? It's unethical to report it unless it's germane to the story. But race is always germane when police kill somebody.

This is the most most heinous thing I've learned in my two years compiling Fatal Encounters. You know who dies in the most population-dense areas? Black men. You know who dies in the least population dense areas? Mentally ill men. It's not to say there aren't dangerous and desperate criminals killed across the line. But African-Americans and the mentally ill people make up a huge percentage of people killed by police.

And if you want to get down to nut-cuttin' time, across the board, it's poor people who are killed by police. (And by the way, around 96 percent of people killed by police are men.)

But maybe most important thing I learned is that collecting this information is hard. I still firmly believe that having a large, searchable database will allow us not just better understanding of these incidents, but better training, policies and protocols for police, and consequently fewer dead people and police. But normal people don't much care about numbers. Trolls intentionally try to pollute the data. Subterranean disinformationists routinely get out fake numbers. I try to take advantage of the public passion when when an incendiary event happens, like the death of Kelly Thomas, James Boyd, Eric Garner or Michael Brown. Or when a Deadspin writer decides to get involved. My girlfriend calls this "riding the spike." I call it journalism. Or maybe, obsession.

Braineack 08-26-2014 10:01 AM

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then with a little police work, they claimed it was actually real, and was removed.

Braineack 08-26-2014 10:04 AM

recurring theme: in an effort to save this troubled teen from himself, officers shoot him 24 times.

Kansas Police Shoot Unarmed Suicidal Teen 24 Times, Despite Pleading Family


Family members of a teen who was shot at least 24 times by police in Ottawa, Kansas said this week that the 18-year-old was unarmed and suicidal when he was gunned down.

Brandy Smith told KCTV that police were there when her nephew, 18-year-old Joseph Jennings, had tried to kill himself with pills last week.

“Tonight is the night goodbye everyone!!!!! It was truly a good ride! And I’m sorry for who I might of hurted (sic) and people that I may of offended, But I love all my family and I hope you don’t hold this against me,” he reportedly wrote on Facebook before trying to overdose.

About 10 minutes later, Jennings swallowed 60 pills. And Smith said two officers took him to Ransom Memorial Hospital.

Jennings survived, and was released from the hospital two days later. But only three hours after that, he was on a “suicide mission” when he walked to Orscheln Farm and Home, according to his aunt.

Smith recalled that around six officers responded, and two of them had helped save Jennings’ life by taking him to the hospital after his overdose just days before.

“It was like six — six officers, and one cop yelled, ‘Bag him!’ And they bagged him,” she said. “And he kind of puffed up a little bit, and then they bagged him two more times, and then like 16 shots rang out, and they shot him. And he fell to the ground.”

Jennings was later pronounced dead at a nearby hospital.

Smith said that she was only feet away from Jennings and did not see a weapon.

Braineack 08-26-2014 10:06 AM

recurring theme: yes is no. up is down. red is tan. van is car. man is woman.

Cops Hold Mother And Four Kids At Gunpoint Because They Thought Her Red Nissan Was A Tan Toyota | ThinkProgress


Police officers in Forney, Texas, were looking for a man reportedly driving with a gun out his window when they pulled over Kametra Barbour driving with four young kids earlier this month. A call reported four black men waving a gun out of a beige or tan Toyota. Barbour was also black, but that appears to be the only thing she had in common with the reported suspects. She was driving a burgundy red Nissan Maxima, she told the local ABC affiliate WFAA. And the four children she was driving home that night were younger than ten years old.
The officers realized within about a minute they had pulled over the wrong vehicle and de-escalated, when Barbour’s six-year-old son Ryan walked out of the car with his hands up, in a chilling image captured by dash cam video that evokes the “Hands up, don’t shoot” refrain that emerged after Michael Brown’s death.


my favorite parts:
when they finally say gun down.
when they finally realize they are retarded.
when they dont ever just let them go.
when they try to justify the stop with false information.

Braineack 08-26-2014 10:19 AM

recurring theme: onlookers plead with cops to stop punching man in face at walmart, after they tased him, in attempts to arrest him. cops do not oblige, proceeded to hit him in the face 20 times. braineack's blood boils when watches video.

Video Spurs Questions Of Arresting Methods After Deputies Tase M - WSPA.com


GREENVILLE COUNTY, S.C. -
An arrest Saturday led to some witnesses thinking the arresting officers went a little far.

In a video sent to 7 On Your Side, you can see a man lying on the floor of the Walmart on Whitehorse Road and the deputies attempting to arrest him. Witnesses from the scene felt the officer's actions went too far, but the Greenville County Sheriff's Office is investigating the incident.

According to Greenville County Master Deputy Jonathan Smith, deputies responded around 1:00pm Saturday to a call about an intoxicated man outside the Walmart.

He said the first deputy arrived to find the man acting erratic outside the store. The deputy approached the man and tried to speak to him. The man apparently kept repeating "I'm 911" to the deputy before walking away inside the store.

Smith said the second deputy arrived and the decision was made to enter the store and arrest the man. He says the man was resisting enough that a deputy had to use a taser in order to arrest him.

Smith said the man was taken outside the store and transported to a Greenville hospital. Smith said the man is undergoing evaluation to determine if he was under the influence of alcohol or other substances.

Several videos have surfaced of the incident on the internet. Smith says they are reviewing them and will comment further at a later time.

The identity of the man has not been released yet.

Braineack 08-26-2014 10:21 AM

UPDATE:



A St. Petersburg police officer was fired Thursday after a review board said he used excessive force during an arrest when he threw a suspect to the ground. Officer Kenneth Pienik then tried to hide dashcam video of the arrest, according to a report released by SPPD. This is the dashcam video released by the department.

Braineack 08-26-2014 10:23 AM

recurring theme: cops trying to serve a warrant piss off owner's dog, so they shoot it.

Wise Co. man mourns his dog shot and killed by deputies | News - Home


Virginia State Police First Sergeant Geoffrey Lewis says the deputy did what he needed to do to protect himself.

But Carico says his dog, who has never bit anyone, didn't deserve to die. Now all he has left of De'Ja is a shell casing and a burial site just a few feet away from where she was shot.

Virginia State Police say the deputies made multiple verbal commands for Carico to call off the pit bull. When De'Ja continued to charge, the deputy fired at the animal.

Braineack 08-26-2014 10:33 AM

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recurring theme: muzzle control.

Student News: SWAT Team Descends onto College Campus in Response to a Man Carrying an Umbrella


Teachers and students at Cal State San Marcos were put on lock down Wednesday morning as dozens of militarized law enforcement agents stormed the campus.

The police were responding to reports of a suspicious person armed with a gun on campus. An order was issued to students and teachers telling them to barricade themselves inside their current locations.

From Twitter:
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You are instructed to shelter in place lock and barricade at your current location. More information coming soon.
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“They immediately … the doors locked and then they took all the chairs and all the tables and barricaded the doors,” said junior James Collins. “People were kind of freaked out and you could tell that there was a nervous tension.”

After the unarmed students and staff hid in fear for over 30 minutes, the alleged ‘gunman,’ realizing that he fit the description, ‘to a tee,’ turned himself into police.

When SWAT approached the ‘shooter,’ 17 year staff member, Bill Craig, he was immediately ‘disarmed.’ As it turns out, his deadly weapon was an umbrella.
recurring theme: muzzle control.

Braineack 08-26-2014 10:35 AM

recurring theme: pedofiles.
recurring theme: lawbreakers.
recurring theme: use authority to commit crime.

Grant Park Cop Kept Teen Niece as 'Wife,' Said He'd Kill Her if She Spilled About Sex: Prosecutor - Police & Fire | Joliet, Illinois Patch


A Grant Park police lieutenant let his brother’s daughter move in with him so he could “straighten out” the teen, then proceeded to have sex with her on a “daily basis” when she wasn’t cooking his meals, doing his laundry, or shopping for lingerie and shoes, a Will County prosecutor said.

Stephen Nardi, 45, started having sex with his 15-year-old niece within three weeks of her moving in with him in June 2010, said Assistant State’s Attorney Peter Wilkes.

Nardi, who was arrested by agents from the Illinois State Police and fired from his job with the Grant Park Police Department Tuesday, appeared in bond court Wednesday afternoon.

Braineack 08-26-2014 10:40 AM

recurring theme: police union argues body cameras will cost officers' lives.

I agree, since there will be accountability for their actions which could easily land them in jails.



Already coping with the never-ending plethora of lurking dangers that keep cops fearing for their lives, the president of the Miami-Dade Police union is outraged that the county mayor now wants cops to start wearing body cams, a move he says “can cost that officer his or her life.”

John Rivera, president the Police Benevolent Association, also said the introduction of body-mounted cameras “will distract officers from their duties, and hamper their ability to act and react in dangerous situations.”

Braineack 08-26-2014 11:18 AM

recurring theme: ferguson "police"

Ferguson Police Officer Justin Cosma Hog-Tied And Injured A Young Child, Lawsuit Alleges


Ferguson police officer who helped detain a journalist in a McDonald's earlier this month is in the midst of a civil rights lawsuit because he allegedly hog-tied a 12-year-old boy who was checking the mail at the end of his driveway.

According to a lawsuit filed in 2012 in Missouri federal court, Justin Cosma and another officer, Richard Carter, approached a 12-year-old boy who was checking the mailbox at the end of his driveway in June 2010. Cosma was an officer with the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office at the time, the lawsuit states. The pair asked the boy if he'd been playing on a nearby highway, and he replied no, according to the lawsuit.

Then, the officers "became confrontational" and intimidated the child, the lawsuit claims. "Unprovoked and without cause, the deputies grabbed [the boy], choked him around the neck and threw him to the ground," it says. The boy was shirtless at the time, and allegedly "suffered bruising, choke marks, scrapes and cuts across his body."

The 12-year-old was transferred to a medical facility for treatment, but the lawsuit says Cosma and the other officer reported the incident as "assault of a law enforcement officer third degree” and “resisting/interfering with arrest, detention or stop."

Jefferson County prosecutors "refused to issue a juvenile case" against the young child, the suit says.

The allegations against Cosma were made in September 2012, shortly after he was introduced as a new officer at a Ferguson City Council meeting. Jefferson County is south of Ferguson.

Captain Ron Arnhart of the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office, who is a candidate for sheriff, did not respond to The Huffington Post's request for comment on the circumstances of Cosma's departure. Neither Ferguson police spokesman Tom Zoll nor Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson responded to requests for comment.

A dispatcher at the Ferguson Police Department said she would relay a message to Cosma, who was out in the field on Sunday afternoon.

Richard R. Lozano, the lawyer representing the young man in the lawsuit, declined to be interviewed due to the pending claims against Cosma and the other officer. He said he anticipates a trial date early next year. However, Lozano did provide a statement.

"The lawsuit alleges that Justin Cosma and Richard Carter, two deputies with the Jefferson County, Missouri sheriff's department in 2010, assaulted my client during an encounter on my client's driveway while his mother was inside their house. My client was 12 years old at the time, shirtless and was not suspected of any criminal behavior. He was checking the mail. The deputies approached my client and the encounter quickly escalated. My client was restrained, choked, thrown to the ground and hogtied by the two deputies. He suffered scrapes and choke marks to his neck. No charges were ever brought against my client. It is my understanding that Justin Cosma is currently an officer with the City of Ferguson," Lozano wrote.

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Braineack 08-26-2014 11:19 AM

recurring theme: ferguson "police"


"AG Holder is in St. Louis Today. I should go in early and punch him in the nose for so many different reasons." - Tweet by Sgt. Mike Weston, Velda City Police

Braineack 08-26-2014 11:21 AM

recurring theme: the pentagon is jealous

Pentagon struggles to defend 'militarization' of police forces (+video) - CSMonitor.com


The Pentagon is pushing back against the notion that their 1033 program is 'militarizing' local police forces. But officers there acknowledge that some police departments have misused some equipment more suited for combat.

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“These guys are idiots – riding around on the top of armored trucks looking like rednecks on a country drive, pointing their weapons at unarmed Americans,” said one Pentagon official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to give his opinion on the matter.

“Don’t tell me that’s militarization – our troops would never do that stuff, even in a war zone,” he says. “And why are they riding around in woodlands camo in a city? That kills me.”

Braineack 08-26-2014 11:22 AM

recurring theme: ferguson "police"

Missouri officer on leave over inflammatory video - CNN.com


A Missouri police officer involved in maintaining security in troubled Ferguson was put on administrative leave Friday after a video surfaced showing him railing about the Supreme Court, Muslims, and his past -- and perhaps, he said, his future -- as "a killer."

The officer, Dan Page of the St. Louis County Police Department, became something of a familiar face to many earlier this month when video showed him pushing back CNN's Don Lemon and others in a group in Ferguson. At the time, CNN was reporting on the large-scale and at times violent protests calling for the arrest of a white Ferguson police officer who shot and killed African-American teenager Michael Brown.

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In his rambling remarks on the video, he talks about what he describes as a draft replacement for the U.S. Constitution, the "four sodomites on the Supreme Court," and a visit to Kenya "to our undocumented President's home." He refers to Barack Obama as "that illegal alien who claims to be our President."

Page frequently references violence, including nine combat tours in the Army, during which he did "my fair share of killing."

Speaking about Muslims, he says pointedly: "They will kill you."

On domestic disputes, he opines: "You don't like each other that much, just kill each other and get it over with. Problem solved. Get it done."

On urban violence, he predicts that "when the inner cities start to ignite, people are going to start killing people they don't like."

And lastly, Page says, "I personally believe the Lord Jesus Christ is my savior, but I'm also a killer. I've killed a lot and, if I need to, I will kill a whole bunch more."

"If you don't want to get killed, don't show up in front of me."

Belmar, the head of the St. Louis County police department, said all the talk about killing was especially disturbing to him.

"As a police chief, that's something I'm not going to be able to endure," Belmar said.

Braineack 08-26-2014 01:11 PM

recurring theme: cops hate logic/reason/brainpower start fishing for violations when their ego is challenged.


pretty sure you can't combine license and DUI checkpoints.

Braineack 08-26-2014 01:15 PM

recurring theme: defeated cop is defeated.


Braineack 08-26-2014 01:18 PM

recurring theme: police are never off duty



I am the girl in the video and will tell y'all what happened so that those of you who ignorantly think I did something wrong (ahem, Cheyenne Nelson) will understand the bigger picture here. First, this occurred in Charleston, South Carolina. This self-proclaimed officer was cruising on the interstate in the left land, impeding traffic. When I had the chance, I passed him in the right lane, and flipped him a friendly bird as I went by. Evidently, this upset him immensely, because he sped up, began tailgating me, and then flipped his lights on. He was in an unmarked car - could have been his personal vehicle, for all I know - and had a female in the passenger seat. He pulled me over, not because he had reason to, but simply because he "could" - this is evident by the first comment he made when he approached my car ("Are you being smart with me?!" Really, dude?). I asked him repeatedly if I was being detained. When he confirmed I was not, I left, as I was legally free to do so. Our basic constitutional rights protect us from these types of unreasonable stops. And just so everyone is aware, after this occurred, I contacted every police/sheriffs department in my area, whether they had jurisdiction or not, and inquired about this officer, and not a single department knew who he was. Clearly, this idiot was off duty, outside of his jurisdiction, and pulled me over simply because he thought he could. While I have all the respect in the world for officers, and appreciate what they do for us on a daily basis, I will not tolerate abuse of power - and neither should you.

Braineack 08-26-2014 01:23 PM

recurring theme: police hate the law and cameras


Braineack 08-26-2014 01:25 PM

recurring theme: the look on his face when he fiines out his non-consented search is being filmed


Braineack 08-27-2014 07:58 AM

recurring theme: policing the schools

http://imgur.com/a7b8SLK

Braineack 08-27-2014 08:00 AM

recurring theme: Cops hate cameras and the law so much that they'll "put a round in your ass so quick" after they point a gun at you of course.


Braineack 08-27-2014 08:04 AM

recurring theme: cops kicks sitting person in the face just before arresting him. I'm sure that's standard policy/procedure


Braineack 08-27-2014 08:07 AM

recurring theme: judges deny immunity on military police who murder/raid over "maybe" a residence having drugs in the house

Court: cops don't have immunity for fatal raid - Connecticut Post


A federal appeals court has ruled the police departments of Easton, Monroe, Trumbull, Darien and Wilton cannot use a shield of immunity to protect them from millions of dollars in civil rights claims arising from a 2008 tactical-team raid that killed a Norwalk man and injured an Easton homeowner.

In a 51-page decision, 10 months after it heard arguments in the case, the U.S. 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals cleared the way for a jury to decide whether the police departments violated Ronald Terebesi's constitutional rights when a heavily armed team smashed down his door, tossed stun grenades into his home and fatally shot his house guest, 33-year-old Gonzalo Guizan, as the two men were watching TV.

During the raid, Guizan was shot half a dozen times by Monroe Officer Michael Sweeney.

The police team's action was based on a claim by an exotic dancer that she saw a small amount of cocaine and some smoking pipes in Terebesi's home.

Braineack 08-27-2014 08:10 AM

recurring theme: police officer finds himself in jail when he breaks the law; knocking a suspect's head into a wall, then lying about it.



Corrections Officer Brutally Beats Suspect for Clearing His Throat

A Florida corrections officer found himself behind bars — albeit for only a few minutes — after getting caught on camera slamming a suspect's head into the wall, leaving him unconscious and bleeding.
Footage from inside the Marion County Jail shows Officer Charlie Broaderick beating up DUI suspect James Duckworth after the latter cleared his throat.

Duckworth was in the process of being booked when he made a sound which Broaderick interpreted as an intention to spit on him.

Broaderick responded by slamming Duckworth into the wall and exclaiming, "You don't spit at officers."

The violent outburst left a visible streak of blood on the wall behind Duckworth.

The officers then engage in a conversation over Duckworth's true intention, leading Broaderick to realize his error.

An effort is then made to treat Duckworth's injuries.

Broaderick was subsequently arrested and charged with assault, but spent just 13 minutes in a jail cell before posting his $2,000 bail.

Marion County has since placed Broaderick on unpaid leave pending the result of an excessive force investigation.

Braineack 08-27-2014 08:15 AM

recurring theme: police beat up children, falsify police reports, false arrest suspects, steal private property, just to name a few things. These kids had to get a court order to get their property back after the department refused to hand it back over because "this is what you get when you are being tough guys". when they get the equipment back, it is all destroyed, and they did not give back the memory cards.

When they finally show up to their court date, there's actually no record of the arrest/charges.

when they finally get their "evidence" back, it was deleted.


Braineack 08-27-2014 08:24 AM

recurring theme: police will beat anyone. even other cops.

Philly cop files brutality suit against police department


Ruff claims he was roughed up by seven officers from the 35th District when he attempted to anonymously turn in three handguns at the precinct. Ruff, who says he suffered two sprained wrists and two sprained shoulders in the fracas, filed suit in U.S. District Court in Philadelphia.

Ruff, an eight-year veteran assigned to the 16th precinct, said the acts of the 35th District officers “were committed willfully, wantonly, maliciously, intentionally, outrageously, deliberately and/or by conduct so egregious as to shock the conscience.”

The City of Philadelphia, he said in his civil suit, encourages and is deliberately indifferent to the abuse of police powers. Among other accusations, Ruff claims the city tolerates officers who misrepresent facts in order to establish probable cause, and allows officers to have persons falsely arrested or maliciously prosecuted. He also asserts the city permits the continued employment of officers who are psychologically or emotionally unfit to serve.

Ruff is currently under investigation by Internal Affairs in connection with the incident.

In his suit, Ruff said a friend asked him to turn in three firearms the friend had bought from neighbors “in a proactive attempt to stop violence.”

Ruff, who was off duty, checked to make sure the guns were unloaded and then drove to the 35th District station at Broad Street and Champlost Avenue. When he arrived at the precinct, he told an officer he wanted to turn in some firearms. The officer asked who owned the guns. Ruff – who refused to identify the owner -- said he was turning them in under a “no-questions-asked” policy and asked to speak to a supervisor, the suit states.

But according to a police spokesman, a “no-questions-asked” policy does not exist outside of periodic gun-amnesty programs.

“Can you drop them off like a baby? Typically, no,” said Lt. John Stanford, a department spokesman. “That’s only done when we do buybacks.”

After a supervisor failed to appear, another officer demanded to see Ruff’s identification. He told her that he didn’t have a state ID on him but had his work ID instead. Ruff asked to make a phone call outside the building. As he walked out, someone shouted, “There he is,” the suit states. Another officer came up behind Ruff and twisted his right hand behind his back. More than five officers ran to the scene. At that point, Ruff used a code number to identify himself as a fellow officer and said that his ID was in his pocket, according to the suit.

Two of those police officers held Tasers to his chest and rib cage and threatened to activate them. One of the officers spotted a weapon holstered to Ruff’s hip and demanded, “Why the hell would you come into a police station with a gun on your hip? Where is your permit to carry?” Ruff responded that his police officer ID was his permit to carry, according to the suit.

After being held for six hours, Ruff was released. On Aug. 4, he went to Chestnut Hill Hospital, where he was treated for injuries he said he received during his arrest and detention. The same day, Ruff was placed on desk duty, according to the suit, which seeks unspecified damages.

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Braineack 08-27-2014 08:26 AM

update: leaning on potential merchandise is a crime punishable by death without a trial or jury or your peers.

Video shows police shot Ohio man ‘on sight’ as he leaned on toy gun in Walmart, attorney says


Surveillance video shows an Ohio man talking on a cell phone, leaning on a toy gun, and facing away from officers moments before police shot and killed him in a Walmart store, according to an attorney for the man’s family.

John Crawford III died Aug. 5 after police were called to Walmart in Beavercreek, near Dayton, by another shopper who reported a man carrying what appeared to be an AR-15 rifle.

The 22-year-old Crawford was instead carrying an unpackaged MK-177 (.177 caliber) BB/pellet rifle he picked up in the store’s toy department.

Police claim Crawford ignored their commands to drop the weapon, and the former Marine who called in the report and witnessed the shooting said Crawford “looked like he was going to go violently.”

But attorney Michael Wright said surveillance video from the incident, which Ohio’s attorney general allowed him to watch with Crawford’s family, contradicted those accounts.

“John was doing nothing wrong in Walmart, nothing more, nothing less than shopping,” Wright said.

The attorney said surveillance video showed Crawford facing away from officers, talking on the phone, and leaning on the pellet gun like a cane when he was “shot on sight” in a “militaristic” response by police.

Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine announced Tuesday handed the case over to a special prosecutor to present to a grand jury Sept. 22.
I cant wait to see this video...

Braineack 08-27-2014 08:32 AM

recurring theme: police exhibiting incredible muzzle/trigger control hit one of their own, and a kill bystander and then charge someone else for their crime.

Cops Haphazardly Killed an Innocent Woman. Now They are Charging Someone Else for Her Murder | The Free Thought Project


Several of the rounds hit Roach, critically wounding him. One of their bullets went through the door of the bar and hit 22-year-old Maria Fernada Godinez, killing her.

“The preliminary indication is that during the situation a bullet was discharged from Officer Eduardo Sanguino’s firearm and fatally struck Maria inside the establishment,” Orlando Police Chief John Mina said. “The Orlando Police Department is committed to a full investigation to understand how this tragedy happened.”

Mina also added that there is no indication that Roach fired any shots. Upon inspection of his weapon it was found to be empty.

In true unaccountable fashion, Orlando police have no idea which officer fired a shot at Lt. Frank Nunez striking him in the leg. Nunez was treated in the hospital and released.


Braineack 08-27-2014 08:43 AM

recurring theme: hero cop resigns

Reserve deputy resigns after Indy 500 incident - TheIndyChannel.com


A Marion County Sheriff's Office reserve deputy resigned after he was caught on camera using a stun gun on a race fan during the Indianapolis 500 weekend.

Paul McGann was hired in June 2013 and was placed on administrative leave on July 2 after the incident in the Coke Lot. He officially resigned Aug. 22.

No charges were filed in the case, but the prosecutor’s office was investigating.

Braineack 08-27-2014 02:54 PM

In 2013 (8 years after this article) UK police only fired a gun 3 times.

To First U.S. Bobby, Unarmed Is Unsafe


By Kevin Sullivan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Sunday, December 11, 2005
READING, England -- During his training to become a British police officer, Ben Johnson recalled, an instructor told him and other recruits, "If you ever see somebody carrying a gun, turn and run away as quickly as possible."

"It was a bizarre situation," said Johnson, 34, a former police officer in Garland, Tex., and U.S. Army soldier who moved here with his British wife three years ago and became this country's first non-British police officer. He said running from trouble was exactly the opposite of what he learned as an American cop.

Now Johnson is publicly challenging one of the great traditions of law enforcement in Britain, what he calls the "old-fashioned idea of the unarmed bobby on the beat." He has written to his chief asking for permission to carry a gun, arguing that Britain is no longer safe for unarmed and under-trained police officers. He says he will resign if the chief refuses.

Braineack 08-27-2014 02:58 PM

recurring theme: police misuse tasers, kill suspect in cusdoy, lie in report. typical day in police work.

Attorney: East Point police used Tasers as


Two former East Point police officers might have discharged their Tasers more than twice as many times as they reported in the death of a 24-year-old man in April, according to an attorney.

Chris Stewart, who is representing the family of Gregory Lewis Towns Jr., said Tuesday former Cpl. Howard Weems and former Sgt. Marcus Eberhart discharged their departmental Tasers at least 14 times, not the six that were documented in the required police reports they filed on Towns’ April 11 death.

While the medical examiners haves said Towns’ death was a homicide, Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard is still waiting on evidence before decided if he will present the matter to a grand jury for possible criminal charges.

Stewart, who plans to file a lawsuit this week on behalf of Towns’ family, including his 7-month-old son, said what he has learned in recent days is “beyond belief” and “horrendous.”

According to a report produced by each Taser used on Towns, Weems pulled the trigger on his device four times for a total of 27 seconds and Eberhart activated his Taser at least 10 times for a total of 47 seconds.

“They used their Tasers as a cattle prod on Mr. Towns while handcuffed,” Stewart said.
As required by state law, Towns’ family has notified the city of East Point of their intent to sue.

“Mr. Towns’ killing is not about race,” Stewart said, noting that Towns and both officers were black. “It’s about police brutality … going to the extreme.”

East Point has declined to comment because of the potential litigation.

Braineack 08-27-2014 03:01 PM

recurring theme: police, using the best of muzzle control, wildly shoot 30 rounds at a suspect armed with an air gun and kill one of their own crew along with the suspect

Officials: 'Cops' crewman, robbery suspect killed by police in Wendy's shooting - Omaha.com: Crime & Courts


The World-Herald has learned that at least 30 shots were fired at the Wendy’s near 43rd and Dodge Streets.
Officials said it appears the only shots fired came from police.

The robbery suspect apparently had an air gun, a type of BB gun that looks like an actual firearm. He apparently was a prison parolee from Kansas, law enforcement sources said.

The names of the two dead had not been released at midday Wednesday. Omaha Police Chief Todd Schmaderer has scheduled a press conference for 2:30 p.m.

Braineack 08-27-2014 03:04 PM

recurring theme: cops are so fucking stupid that they forget they are on camera. then even stupider to try to hide the evidence.



Evidence from a dashboard camera on a police cruiser ended a nightmare for a New Jersey man facing false charges of eluding police, resisting arrest and assault. Prosecutors dismissed all the criminal charges against Marcus Jeter, 30, of Bloomfield, N.J. and instead indicted two Bloomfield police officers for falsifying reports and one of them for assault after the recording surfaced showing police officers beating Jeter during a traffic stop, according to WABC of New York. A third has pleaded guilty to tampering.

Jeter's defense attorney requested all recorded evidence, but the police failed to hand over a second tape until additional evidence surfaced of a second police car at the scene. The tape showed Jeter complying with police, even as one punched him in the head repeatedly.
They are still trying to supress this video in the case against them: http://www.northjersey.com/news/crim...week-1.1056564

Braineack 08-27-2014 03:12 PM

recurring theme: cops hate citizens being able to breathe

Tennessee: Sheriff


In Tennessee, a Knox County Sheriff’s officer has been fired after photographs showed him choking a college student until he collapsed. A sequence of photographs published in Britain’s Daily Mail showed Officer Frank Phillips squeezing his hands around Jarod Dotson’s neck until Dotson fell to his knees. Police charged Dotson with public intoxication and resisting arrest.

Braineack 08-27-2014 03:15 PM

recurring theme: cop admits mistake, still doesnt stop them from being police. victim not happy about it.



Joe Perez 08-27-2014 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1161469)
recurring theme: Cops hate cameras and the law so much that they'll "put a round in your ass so quick" after they point a gun at you of course.

Boy, you ain't kidding. They apparently hate it so much that now they're even gunning down crew members of the TV show "COPS," who are getting paid to film them with their consent!

‘Cops’ crew member killed when police open fire on robbery suspects

POSTED 4:46 PM, AUGUST 27, 2014, BY ASSOCIATED PRESS, UPDATED AT 05:26PM, AUGUST 27, 2014

OMAHA, Neb. (AP/PIX11) — Omaha police say officers who opened fire while disrupting a robbery killed a crew member with the “Cops” television show and the suspect, who was carrying a pellet gun.

In the aftermath of the shootout, both the armed robber, 32-year-old Cortez Washington, and 38-year-old Bryce Dion, an audio operator for “Cops,” are dead from police fire.

Police Chief Todd Schmaderer said Wednesday that witnesses and officers thought the robbery suspect’s Airsoft handgun was real, but that it fires only plastic pellets.

http://tribwpix.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=770&h=411

Schmaderer said he believes the three officers involved acted properly during the attempted robbery Tuesday at a Wendy’s in midtown Omaha. Witnesses say they heard over 20 gunshots.

Schmaderer says video captured by another crewman of the “Cops” reality television show shows the chaotic situation in the restaurant.

Schmaderer said the incident will be investigated and all three officers are on leave.

The crew of “Cops” was supposed to leave next week, after following Omaha police since late June.

No crew member from “Cops” has ever been killed on the job, even though they have been chronicling policing since the late 80s.

‘Cops’ crew member killed when police opened fire on robbery suspects | New York's PIX11 / WPIX-TV


mgeoffriau 08-27-2014 07:40 PM

What's weird is that while clearly this fits your pattern of posting things that don't fit Scott's theme while claiming they do fit Scott's theme, the item you posted doesn't exactly reflect well on the police either.

I honestly can't tell if the joke is on us or if the joke is on you.*







*Not to mention the fact that Scott just posted the same story 4 comments earlier.

Joe Perez 08-27-2014 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1161759)
What's weird is that while clearly this fits your pattern of posting things that don't fit Scott's theme while claiming they do fit Scott's theme, the item you posted doesn't exactly reflect well on the police either.

I honestly can't tell if the joke is on us or if the joke is on you.

It's a little bit of both. (And thank you for pointing out that I don't fit Scott's theme. The day that starts happening in this thread is the day I voluntarily check into a psych ward.)

Since we're talkling about things that we find weird, what I find weird is the continual use of the phrase "recurring theme" to describe topics which are essentially isolated incidents and not, in fact, recurring in any plainly obvious sense. But then I also find it weird when people who are flat broke and living on welfare and food stamps still find it necessary to carry iPhones and subscribe to $200/month deluxe sports packages from their cable / satellite provider. This apparently makes me ignorant.




Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1161759)
*Not to mention the fact that Scott just posted the same story 4 comments earlier.

Good point. To be honest, I've stopped reading the individual posts- they all sort of blur together after a while. When I come across a story on my TV station covering some sort of hilariously absurd police malfeasance, I just scan upwards from the bottom looking for a tangentially-related posting by Scott to post it as a reply to. Takes less time that way.



Sidebar: the pizza in his avatar is making me hungry.

Craig66 08-27-2014 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1161761)
It's a little bit of both. (And thank you for pointing out that I don't fit Scott's theme. The day that starts happening in this thread is the day I voluntarily check into a psych ward.)

Since we're talkling about things that we find weird, what I find weird is the continual use of the phrase "recurring theme" to describe topics which are essentially isolated incidents and not, in fact, recurring in any plainly obvious sense. But then I also find it weird when people who are flat broke and living on welfare and food stamps still find it necessary to carry iPhones and subscribe to $200/month deluxe sports packages from their cable / satellite provider. This apparently makes me ignorant.



Good point. To be honest, I've stopped reading the individual posts- they all sort of blur together after a while. When I come across a story on my TV station covering some sort of hilariously absurd police malfeasance, I just scan upwards from the bottom looking for a tangentially-related posting by Scott to post it as a reply to. Takes less time that way.



Sidebar: the pizza in his avatar is making me hungry.

Once upon a time I saw a response by a woman about the welfare recipient seen getting into a late model Cadillac. She said that it might have been her Caddy since she often gave some welfare folks ride to the store and doctor and the like.
I have a cellphone that I got used on eBay for $27. Amazon just sent me spam with bargain to buy new, the obsolete phone for
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In my travels I have met a lot of folks on welfare. I have met some who I thought their "meal ticket" children should have been taken and given to sane people and woman who got her degree and was teaching school last i saw her. - One time she made some money and dutifully reported the income. It wound up costing her three times that for some brilliant state employee or stupid rules determined that what she made that week she should make every week for the month. Really fucked up her tight finances.

I hate to see when people paint with broad brush from what is probably just some bullshit they heard from someone who heard from someone. It is a lazy kind of dishonesty. There is certainly cheats and undeserving but then I read of a white person robbed a bank the other day ....

Braineack 08-28-2014 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1161761)
Since we're talkling about things that we find weird, what I find weird is the continual use of the phrase "recurring theme" to describe topics which are essentially isolated incidents and not, in fact, recurring in any plainly obvious sense. But then I also find it weird when people who are flat broke and living on welfare and food stamps still find it necessary to carry iPhones and subscribe to $200/month deluxe sports packages from their cable / satellite provider. This apparently makes me ignorant.

at least you can admit youre racist and dont think all US citizens deserve the same rights.

Braineack 08-28-2014 08:58 AM

isolated theme: police never require policing

No Jail For Oklahoma Cop Who Lied About Beating Motorist


Miami, Oklahoma police officer Teresa Lashmet will not spend no time in jail after admitting that she committed perjury to cover up the brutal beating of a motorist that was caught on a dashcam video. Ottawa County Judge Bill Culver on Tuesday imposed a sentence of unsupervised probation for three years, deferred, and a $300 fine after she entered a plea of no contest to a charge of "outraging public decency."

Braineack 08-28-2014 09:01 AM

isolated theme: police are never pedofiles

Henry County police captain arrested for trying to have sex with - CBS46 News


A Henry County police captain was arrested for trying to have sex with a 14-year-old boy, according to a spokesperson with DeKalb County police.

Authorities said Captain David McCart was arrested on Aug. 26 and charged with one count of computer pornography and child exploitation.

McCart went to DeKalb County and tried to have sex with the teen, although he never made contact with the boy, according to police.

Computers and cell phones were taken from his home by police. McCart will go to court for the first time Thursday morning at 8:30 a.m.

Braineack 08-28-2014 09:03 AM

isolated theme: police love to raid the homes of people playing video games without any sort of cause, only because people make false reports


look how respectful they treat this kid in his own home. notice the muzzle control.

I wonder what they charged him with: peacefully playing video games at home. seems to be a pretty serious crime in USA.

QUICK HE'S PLAYING A VIDEO GAME! STEP ON HIM!

isolated theme: officer clearly violates Riley v California 2014. That's an isolated court ruling for an isolated case of police intursion.

Braineack 08-28-2014 09:16 AM

isolated themes: you must be doing something wrong if you need to invoke your rights. cops hate cameras.


Braineack 08-28-2014 09:17 AM

isolated theme: muzzle control

CPD commander charged with official misconduct, aggravated battery - Chicago Sun-Times


One of Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy’s most valued commanders was charged Wednesday with official misconduct and aggravated battery for allegedly putting his gun in a suspect’s mouth last year, officials said.

Cmdr. Glenn Evans, who has been in charge of the Harrison District on the West Side, was stripped of his badge and gun earlier Wednesday.

Evans is scheduled to appear in bond court on Thursday on the charges, which are both felonies.

Braineack 08-28-2014 09:20 AM

isolated theme: policing the police

Ex-Springfield cop charged in shooting offers plea deal


Former Springfield police officer Jason Shuck has offered to plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge in the shooting of an unarmed man in May.

The proposed deal with Greene County prosecutors would leave Shuck, 35, who resigned earlier this month from the police department, with no criminal record if he successfully completed two years of unsupervised probation.

...

Shuck told authorities that he meant to use his Taser when he shot Butts on May 9 near the Walmart Neighborhood Market at 1320 S. Glenstone Ave., as Butts was running away.
too fat to give chase. pretty sure even shooting a flee suspect with a taser is against policy as well; what a great deal for this murderer.

Braineack 08-28-2014 09:24 AM

isolated theme: hero cop drives away in the middle of an armed kidnapping

Dallas officer placed on leave for not helping frantic mother - Dallas News | myFOXdfw.com



A Dallas police officer is on administrative leave following the Monday chase and deadly shooting of a man who had taken his children at gunpoint from their mother.

...

Kilson says that Douglas was trying to her and her children's lives.

“When he pointed it right at me, I looked and my baby, she said, ‘Mama, he's gonna shoot me!'” said Kilson. “‘Cause she's in the passenger seat; he's on the right side. ‘Mama, he's gonna shoot me!' I heard the shot. I didn't see ‘cause I turned so hard to the left and now I'm crossing the median in oncoming traffic where my car was disabled. It just wouldn't go no more. Now we're facing the wrong side of traffic and everybody's coming toward us.”

Kilson says Douglas came to her car.

“He reached into the windows, pulls it out,” said Kilson. “And as the window exploded in my face, I actually thought he shot it; I didn't know at the time. But I did see his hands up and he pulled [the window] out. And I looked over, and as I looked up out that passenger window, I swear I saw an angel ‘cause I saw a police car right at my car.”

In that squad car was Cpl. Richardson.

“That man looked up, he said, ‘What's going on?'” said Kilson. “Right at my window, directly. I said, ‘Get him, get him!' As [Douglas] got the gun, Maya said, ‘Get out, get out!' [Douglas] saw the policeman, so he moved the gun. He jerked my son out the car. That policeman drove off. He drove off. He didn't come back.”

Kilson had been on the phone with 911 throughout the ordeal.

“So I yelled to the lady on the phone, ‘Ma'am a cop just drove off!'” said Kilson. “I said, ‘Why did he pull up, ask me what's wrong and drive off, and now [Douglas] got my kids?'”

A male witness saw the ordeal and tried to help, even driving to find another officer.

...

Braineack 08-28-2014 09:30 AM

new isolated theme: this officer takes down a suspect who throws a punch at him without retaliation.

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notice how his body camera and dashcam protect him from a lawsuit or any claims of excessive force.

I say this because the suspect claimed that he was assaulted, and there was an investigation. The dashcam alone might suggest that the cop just attacked the suspect out of the blue, but his body cam shows the suspect threw a punch at him.

tl;dr fuck the police union.

Joe Perez 08-28-2014 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Craig66 (Post 1161774)
In my travels I have met a lot of folks on welfare. I have met some who I thought their "meal ticket" children should have been taken and given to sane people and woman who got her degree and was teaching school last i saw her. - One time she made some money and dutifully reported the income. It wound up costing her three times that for some brilliant state employee or stupid rules determined that what she made that week she should make every week for the month. Really fucked up her tight finances.

I hate to see when people paint with broad brush from what is probably just some bullshit they heard from someone who heard from someone. It is a lazy kind of dishonesty. There is certainly cheats and undeserving but then I read of a white person robbed a bank the other day ....

I agree completely.

In this case, I am speaking from direct personal experience. My current relationship has led me to a considerable broadening of my circle of acquaintances, including a number of "undesirables" who are either current or former substance abusers. None are physically disabled, though many are chronically unemployed or underemployed. I have attended small social gatherings with certain of the above, and I have made a number of observations:

1: Smartphone ownership among this group is nearly 100%, with a strong preference shown for the later-model iPhones.

2: The majority smoke cigarettes to the tune of 1-2 packs per day at around $14 a pack, the average price across the state of New York. (source) In case $14 doesn't seem like a lot, that's $420-$840 per month on cigarettes alone. The mortgage on my last house was less than $840 / month.

3: Most "couples" among this group are unmarried, more than half of the unmarried women have children, and among those with more than one child, there is a strong bias towards the children having multiple fathers.

4: Most males in this group own two or more high-end videogaming systems of either the current generation or one generation previous. Additionally, males and families with adult males seem to subscribe to premium cable TV plans which heavily feature a large amount of sports programming, costing on average around $150-200 per month.

5: A very strong preference is exhibited for consuming takeout / fast food / delivery food, as opposed to cooking in the home. Many individuals and couples in this group, including those with small children at home, literally never cook their own food at all despite residing in an apartment with a functional kitchen.

and, most relevant:

6: I have, on several occasions, overheard one food-stamp* recipient brag to another food-stamp recipient the sort of nonessential products which they have been able to get away with buying. Examples here including Monster brand energy drink, various candy products, and "high end" cuts of meat and seafood.
* = I acknowledge that there is more than one class of need-based supplemental nutritional assistance available, each with different rules, and I don't know enough about them to discriminate between them.

In the same way that it rubs you as offensive to see uninformed people paint an overly-broad negative image of sloth and abuse in the social-welfare programs, I am likewise annoyed by those who use the same brush to attack individuals making well-informed and specific criticisms of same, based on lofty but unfounded idealistic visions of the world.







Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1161858)
at least you can admit youre racist and dont think all US citizens deserve the same rights.

With regard to the observation above, with one exception, 100% these people are either white or Hispanic like myself. Thus, this observation is not at all racist. In fact, I find it somewhat telling that you immediately equated race with poverty.

Braineack 08-28-2014 01:04 PM

isolated theme: In CA, it is legal to kill/manslaughter so long as you're doing it while being completely negligent for purposes of your employment

Deputy who killed former Napster COO after drifting into the bike lane while distracted by his laptop will NOT face charges because he was answering a work-related email | Mail Online


Prosecutors said in a letter released Wednesday and cited by Los Angeles Daily News that because Wood was acting within the course of his duties when typing into his computer, criminal charges are not warranted.
Under the law, law enforcement officials are allowed to use electronic wireless devices while carrying out their duties.

Braineack 08-28-2014 01:10 PM

isolated theme: apparently police have nunkchucks and know how to use them

Suit alleges DPD officer slammed woman into walls, used police nunchaku | kdvr.com


A woman who called 911 during an argument with her boyfriend has filed a civil rights lawsuit against the Denver Police Department, claiming that officers inappropriately searched her home and then beat and arrested her when she objected to the search.

In the suit, Patricia Lucero claims DPD officers Marika Putnam and Kenneth Starbuck slammed her into walls and an elevator door while applying a painful joint lock using a police-issue nunchaku.

Braineack 08-28-2014 01:11 PM

isolated theme: meanwhile in denver:

Denver police are asking for 800 body cameras for officers - The Denver Post


Denver police on Wednesday said they hope to equip 800 officers, including all patrol and traffic officers, with body cameras in 2015.

The cameras, which will record audio and video, not only will protect people who make legitimate complaints, authorities say, but the technology also should protect police from false allegations of excessive force.

"The body camera will clear up those moments of conflict," Chief Robert White said. "We're very comfortable that we are going in the right direction."

Braineack 08-28-2014 01:14 PM

isolated theme: police will do whatever it is necessary in order to get you to produce ID and talk to them (ie. violate your 5th), including arresting you for no reason and tasing you


fwiw, not that it's releveant in any way. Those officers both make ~$85K a year.


and before joe says the he shouldn't have kept calming debating his alleged arrestable offense with the police (they never state he was suspected of a crime): Plummer v. State. upheld by: John Bad Elk v. U.S.

Braineack 08-28-2014 01:26 PM

isolated theme: dashcam video captures police crimes on tape. suspect exhorneted. police now under investigation. again, isolated. I've never EVER posted about something like this happening, ever.



Chicago and suburban Glenview police officers accused of lying in court are now facing a new lawsuit.

The five officers are accused of lying about a traffic stop and drug arrest. Dashboard camera video was key in the case and will likely be in the lawsuit.

The lawsuit alleges one of the officers, before the arrest, ordered all dash cams be turned off. But one camera was left on, and the video would contradict the officers' testimony.

Police dash cam video shows officers putting Joseph Sperling in handcuffs and violating, he says, his constitutional rights.

"If it could happen to me, it can honestly happen to anybody. And I just happen to be one of the lucky few that has a video that proves that they were wrong," said Sperling.

The five officers involved in the June arrest, two from Glenview police and three from Chicago, are now being investigated by the Cook County State's Attorney's office for allegedly lying about how Sperling was arrested.

"If the police want to make a case proving drug crimes, proving responsibility, they have to follow the law. And they can't lie," said Jon Loevy, Sperling's attorney.

The five officers all told the same story in court: that they pulled Sperling over for a traffic violation and that he agreed to a search.

"According to them, they then took Joe to the back, searched the car with his permission, according to the police, whereupon they saw the drugs lying in plain view," said Loevy.

But the lawsuit alleges the officers were unaware of this Glenview police dash cam video, which appears to show Sperling immediately being arrested, before any search is performed.

"In America, you have a right not to be searched unless you have probable cause. They can't just walk up to you, arrest you, and say hey, maybe you got drugs. Maybe we'll find them," said Loevy.

Sperling admitted there were hidden drugs in his vehicle, but when the video came to light, Cook County Judge Catherine Haberkorn dismissed the charges against him, saying at a hearing last month: "All officers lied on the stand today. The evidence that's been submitted is directly contrary to their testimony."

Sperling has now filed a federal lawsuit.

viperormiata 08-28-2014 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1161980)
isolated theme: police will do whatever it is necessary in order to get you to produce ID and talk to them (ie. violate your 5th), including arresting you for no reason and tasing you

Black man taken to jail for sitting in public area - YouTube

fwiw, not that it's releveant in any way. Those officers both make ~$85K a year.


and before joe says the he shouldn't have kept calming debating his alleged arrestable offense with the police (they never state he was suspected of a crime): Plummer v. State. upheld by: John Bad Elk v. U.S.

This is honestly my worst fear.

Braineack 08-28-2014 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by viperormiata (Post 1162000)
This is honestly my worst fear.

don't worry. this was an isolated case and things like this just dont happen. just be compliant, waive your rights whenever possible, and be a good slave.

Joe Perez 08-28-2014 02:10 PM

Relevant: http://digitalcommons.law.lsu.edu/cg...context=lalrev


Scott is on target in citing Plummer v. State. Very important and oft-cited case which establishes that you do, in fact, have the right to resist an unlawful arrest, or to aid a person who is being unlawfully arrested in resisting. This places an interesting burden on the citizen, somewhat like that incumbent upon every member of the US Armed Forces to to "obey the lawful orders" of their superiors.

Braineack 08-28-2014 02:13 PM

it's not often cited. it was a very isolated case, and it's never happened again. unlawful arrests DONT happen.

Joe Perez 08-28-2014 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1162016)
it's not often cited. it was a very isolated case, and it's never happened again. unlawful arrests DONT happen.

Recurring (as of earlier today) theme: Reductio ad absurdum. :bigtu:

There's a difference between "sometimes" and "always" or "never."

For instance, the sentence "Scott always takes stories alleging police corruption out of context" is false, because Scott has demonstrated that sometimes he posts things which are factual, relevant and correctly reported, and sometimes he makes over-broad generalizations based on the actions of a minority.

This latter behavior is essentially the same folly committed by those who create and perpetuate racial stereotypes, such as "All Asians are good at math, all Jews are greedy, all Virginians are hillbillies and all Blacks are inner-city gang members." While there may certainly be observable trends to support the assertion that members of those demographics may disproportionately exhibit the named characteristic as compared to a statistical mean, that is a different thing from it being universally true.


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