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Braineack 09-25-2014 12:59 PM

this is a bad cop.



The guy was pulled over, but the cop forgot to give him a citation then asked him to meet him at a gas station. Suspicious. I recorded the incident and he tried to scare me off by saying it's illegal.

dude was really retarded to give in and sign the ticket.

Braineack 09-25-2014 01:06 PM

America. all the time.


mgeoffriau 09-25-2014 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1170272)
True story:

"Hey guys! I know the water in this pot is getting slightly warmer, but it's still pretty comfortable. In fact, I like it!"

Braineack 09-25-2014 01:46 PM

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dieselmiata 09-26-2014 09:34 AM

Remember: Only police are allowed to save your life.

Drowning witness: Police stopped men from trying to save woman trapped in car - KFOX - El Paso Top Stories - Breaking News, Weather, and Traffic

Braineack 09-26-2014 12:14 PM

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Braineack 09-26-2014 12:18 PM

griefing too much? there's a cure for that.

Pittsburgh cops Tased man while he was praying for his dead son in ER: lawsuit


dude probably shouldn't have been antagonizing the police by crying over his dead son.

im surprised he wasn't charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest.

Braineack 09-26-2014 12:23 PM


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Braineack 09-29-2014 09:01 AM

JC doesn't fuck around anymore. I love his videos.


APD Officer makes remark about shooting James Boyd 2 hours before shooting | KOB.com


Two hours before Albuquerque Police Officer Keith Sandy shot and killed homeless camper James Boyd, he was recorded telling another officer that he would shoot Boyd in the penis with a shotgun.

...

Sandy: For this f***ing lunatic? I'm going to shoot him in the penis with a shotgun here in a second.
Ware: You got uh less-lethal?
Sandy: I got...
Ware: The Taser shotgun?
Sandy: Yeah.

...


Braineack 09-29-2014 09:02 AM

LAPD Cops are Disabling Their Own Recorders. Not Just a Few Cops Either, Half of Them! | The Free Thought Project


What good are lapel cams and microphones if the cops are disabling them? Why aren’t they being fired for this?

“No one likes to be monitored,” says Sid Heal, recently retired commander who evaluated technology during his decades-long tenure at the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department. And? If you do not want to be filmed and recorded don’t be a cop.

According to the arstechnica.com, The Los Angeles Police Commission is investigating how half of the recording antennas in the Southeast Division went missing, seemingly as a way to evade new self-monitoring procedures that the Los Angeles Police Department imposed last year.

The antennas, which are mounted onto individual patrol cars, receive recorded audio captured from an officer’s belt-worn transmitter. The transmitter is designed to capture an officer’s voice and transmit the recording to the car itself for storage. The voice recorders are part of a video camera system that is mounted in a front-facing camera on the patrol car. Both elements are activated any time the car’s emergency lights and sirens are turned on, but they can also be activated manually.

According to the Los Angeles Times, an LAPD investigation determined that around half of the 80 patrol cars in one South LA division were missing antennas as of last summer, and an additional 10 antennas were unaccounted for. Citing a police source, the newspaper said that removing the antennas can reduce the range of the voice transmitters by as much as a third of the normal operating distance.
if you don't have anything to hide, what's the problem? - police officer good guy

Braineack 09-29-2014 09:12 AM

http://www.brooklynnewyork.com/brook...ts-in-one-day/


Brooklyn, NY – Records compiled by New York City’s Department of Transportation (DOT) reveal that a single speed camera located Brooklyn pumped out an astonishing 1,551 tickets on a single day this past July, totaling a staggering $77,550 for the city.

NYPOST.com (Speed camera generates $77,550 in just one day | New York Post) reports that the numbers produced by the camera on Monday July 7, which is located at the end of a 400-foot exit ramp near Ocean Parkway, have drawn mixed reviews.

City Councilman Chaim Deutsch said anyone speeding “deserves a ticket,” while fellow Councilman Mark Treyger said the positioning of the camera amounts to nothing more than a “speed trap.”

A DOT spokesman said the positioning of the camera provides a “good amount” of distance for speed reduction by drivers entering the marked 30-mph speed limit area.

Braineack 09-29-2014 09:25 AM

cops still hate cameras:


cops still dont understand what evidence means.

Braineack 09-29-2014 09:27 AM

note to self: dont jaywalk in TX


Braineack 09-30-2014 07:26 AM

4 Cops Suspended After Being Caught on Video Tipping Over Portable Toilet With Man Inside | The Free Thought Project


4 Memphis police officers were recently suspended after they tipped over a portable toilet that had a human being inside. 31-year-old Joseph Hampton was allegedly being chased by police when he ducked into a construction site and hid in one of the toilets.

According to Reuters, Hampton was at the home of someone who did not want him there, and that person called police.

The relationship that Hampton had with this person, and the details of the encounter at the home are unclear. When police arrived on the scene, Hampton allegedly ran and eventually led the police to the construction site.

A construction worker who wishes to remain anonymous noticed the chase taking place and began recording the situation with his cellphone.

In the video, police can be seen checking the stalls one by one. When there was only one stall remaining, the police tipped the toilet over, and then pulled Hampton out, kicking him, and throwing him on the ground.

I need a job where I can break the law and get suspended with pay, and then get reinstated when a grand jury fails to take the case.

Braineack 09-30-2014 07:30 AM

cops hate cameras so much that they'll violate your constitutionally protected rights (1st, 4th, and 5th) in order to seize them.

http://rt.com/usa/191636-police-arrest-woman-filming/


A Pennsylvania couple is suing three Collingdale police officers for entering their home without permission in an effort to confiscate a cell phone legally used to record the officers during a February confrontation in front of their home.

In the lawsuit, Kia and Michael Gaymon say that Officer Carl White entered the home without a warrant and arrested Kia after threatening to use a Taser on her. The officers are accused of unlawful arrest, malicious prosecution, retaliatory arrest, and unlawful search, according to NBC10.

The Gaymons say the incident on Feb. 22 began when police were notified to address a car allegedly parked illegally on the curb of the Gaymons’ next-door neighbor. The car belonged to Michael’s visiting mother.

Braineack 09-30-2014 07:32 AM

this officer costs NYC a lot of money:

EXCLUSIVE: City's settlements in lawsuits against most-sued cop near $1.3 million - NY Daily News


The city has quietly paid out $402,000 since April to settle six of the eight remaining lawsuits where NYPD detective Peter Valentin, a Bronx narcotics cop, is a named defendant. That brings the total payouts to $1.286 million. Valentin has been on modified duty since March after an Internal Affairs investigation found he and three other members of the team were conducting dubious raids.

Braineack 09-30-2014 07:34 AM

warning shots in the back:


Braineack 10-01-2014 08:28 AM

in america, if you do not follow police orders, they will shoot you;
or
in america, if you do eventually follow police orders, they will shoot you:



Braineack 10-01-2014 08:36 AM

cop admits what I'm always saying: This is called police police work: to find violations.


when challenged on the illegal stop, the officer doesn't even run the license and just leaves the scene.

Braineack 10-01-2014 08:44 AM


Braineack 10-01-2014 08:46 AM

stop resisting.*




*we know it's a natural reaction to defend yourself when getting beat with fists and betons, but we are going to enter into a thing we like to called circular logic and just keep punching you until you die/pass out and we can finally handcuff you when your body stops tensing up from the shock of being tortured.

Braineack 10-01-2014 08:50 AM

Wanna use the 4th?

okay. we'll just seize the car instead.

Cops Seize Car When Told to Get a Warrant, Tell Owner That’s What He Gets for “Exercising His Rights” | The Free Thought Project


But this should have resulted in something better than the response given to Zully when he finally made his way to the precinct to retrieve his vehicle (as well as being told he was responsible for the towing fees).

When Mr. Zullo asked the defendant’s employee why he had to pay for the tow, the defendant’s employee told him that the tow cost was Mr. Zullo’s fault for exercising his rights.

There’s the now-familiar lesson: exercise your rights and cops will make you pay — one way or another — for making their jobs difficult. This was plainly stated by an LAPD member shortly after the situation in Ferguson blew up: be anything but compliant and you’ll be hurting. If you have problems with us steamrolling your rights, sue us. That attitude brings us to this. Another lawsuit filed against a law enforcement agency simply because a police officer couldn’t handle being told, “No.”


Braineack 10-01-2014 08:53 AM

in america, if you car gets stuck in the snow, you will be ticketed, then struck in teh face with a baton

This Man’s Car Got Stuck in the Snow, So Cops Show Up and Knock Him Out | The Free Thought Project


A Maryland man was relieved to see the police pull up as they were in need of help, however the police did no helping, only assaulting.

Tunde Adeyale is filing a multi-million dollar lawsuit against the Mt. Rainier police department after he was assaulted and ticketed for getting his car stuck in the snow.

The incident happened during a terrible snowstorm on March 17, 2014, when Adeyale lost control of his car and slid off the road, getting the car stuck in a snow embankment.

Adeyale was driving a friend home that night, and when the accident occurred, they immediately called AAA and waited in the car for help to arrive.

Thousands of people across the east coast had found themselves in a similar situation that night, but for Adeyale things took an ugly turn when a police car pulled up behind him. Adeyale and his friend were under the impression that police had arrived to help them back onto the road, or to at least see if they needed help.

However, according to Adeyale and his lawyer, police were immediately aggressive as soon as they arrived, and ticketed him for failure to control his vehicle and negligent driving. Next, the officers threatened to impound his car.

Adeyale pleaded with officers to hear him out, and explained that he did not want any trouble, but the officers refused to listen to him, and responded with more threats, one of the officers even threatened to put him in the hospital. Seconds later, another officer moved in and punched Adeyale, knocking him unconscious momentarily.

Braineack 10-02-2014 08:37 AM

Cops are ALWAYS on duty:


Braineack 10-02-2014 08:38 AM

cops love to taze people in the back for no good reason:


2:30


and wait for it...




























...I felt that my safety was jeopardized by the incitement that Young was providing
http://www.wtxl.com/news/breaking-ta...7a43b2370.html

Braineack 10-02-2014 08:53 AM

watch how this cop handles a kidnapping at gunpoint in progress:

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he was actually fired for this. the kidnapper was later killed in a gunbattle with police.

Braineack 10-02-2014 01:26 PM

we're the police and we're here to help kill you

NYC cops accidentally shoot and kill man they were trying to save from knife attack


Police accidentally shot and killed a Brooklyn man they were trying to save from a knife-wielding assailant.

An autopsy shows 51-year-old Rafael Laureano died Monday night from a single gunshot wound to the back, according the a spokeswoman for the medical examiner.

Officers also killed the suspect, 47-year-old Francisco Carvajal.

Police said they saw Carvajal stabbing Laureano aftern they arrived at an apartment where a disturbance was reported, and they ordered the man to drop his knife.

Officers fired at least 12 shots when Carvajal refused, and both men were killed.

The autopsy showed Carvajal had 13 bullet wounds, including entry and exit wounds and one graze wound, investigators said.

Braineack 10-02-2014 01:28 PM

remind me not to get arrested in Argentina


Braineack 10-02-2014 01:28 PM

remind me to never get accused of a crime.

Accused of Stealing a Backpack, High School Student Jailed for Nearly Three Years Without Trial | Democracy Now!


We look at the incredible story of how a 16-year-old high school sophomore from the Bronx ended up spending nearly three years locked up at the Rikers jail in New York City after he says he was falsely accused of stealing a backpack. Kalief Browder never pleaded guilty and was never convicted. Browder maintained his innocence and requested a trial, but was only offered plea deals while the trial was repeatedly delayed. Near the end of his time in jail, the judge offered to sentence him to time served if he entered a guilty plea, and warned him he could face 15 years in prison if he was convicted. But Browder still refused to accept the deal, and was only released when the case was dismissed. During this time, Browder spent nearly 800 days in solitary confinement, a juvenile imprisonment practice that the New York Department of Corrections has now banned. We are joined by reporter and author Jennifer Gonnerman, who recounts Browder’s story in the current issue of The New Yorker. We also speak with Browder’s current attorney, Paul Prestia, who has filed a lawsuit against the City of New York, the New York City Police Department, the Bronx District Attorney, and the Department of Corrections, on Browder’s behalf.

Braineack 10-02-2014 01:31 PM

in america, if you dont immediately pull over for police, they will shoot and kill you.

Police Officer Shoots, Kills Unarmed 68-Year-Old In His Driveway


Craven followed Satterwhite at low speeds for nine miles as the 68-year-old man drove home, the Associated Press reports. When Satterwhite arrived at his house and pulled into his driveway, Craven ran up to the man's driver’s side door and fired multiple shots, killing him instantly. The elderly Satterwhite is accused by Craven of trying to grab Craven’s gun when the police officer approached his car, but no evidence exists to support that claim.

Braineack 10-02-2014 01:32 PM

police like to install keyloggers on your computer under the guise of installing safety software:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/0...olice-agencies


Police chiefs, sheriffs, and district attorneys have handed out hundreds of thousands of copies of the disc to families for free at schools, libraries, and community events, usually as a part of an “Internet Safety” outreach initiative. The packaging typically features the agency’s official seal and the chief’s portrait, with a signed message warning of the “dark and dangerous off-ramps” of the Internet.

As official as it looks, ComputerCOP is actually just spyware, generally bought in bulk from a New York company that appears to do nothing but market this software to local government agencies.

The way ComputerCOP works is neither safe nor secure. It isn’t particularly effective either, except for generating positive PR for the law enforcement agencies distributing it. As security software goes, we observed a product with a keystroke-capturing function, also called a “keylogger,” that could place a family’s personal information at extreme risk by transmitting what a user types over the Internet to third-party servers without encryption. That means many versions of ComputerCOP leave children (and their parents, guests, friends, and anyone using the affected computer) exposed to the same predators, identity thieves, and bullies that police claim the software protects against.

Furthermore, by providing a free keylogging program—especially one that operates without even the most basic security safeguards—law enforcement agencies are passing around what amounts to a spying tool that could easily be abused by people who want to snoop on spouses, roommates, or co-workers.

EFF conducted a security review of ComputerCOP while also following the paper trail of public records to see how widely the software has spread. Based on ComputerCOP’s own marketing information, we identified approximately 245 agencies in more than 35 states, plus the U.S. Marshals, that have used public funds (often the proceeds from property seized during criminal investigations) to purchase and distribute ComputerCOP. One sheriff’s department even bought a copy for every family in its county.

Braineack 10-02-2014 01:34 PM

In America, you are threatened with arrest if you try to make a complaint against the police


Braineack 10-02-2014 01:38 PM

in america, police attach chains to their black slaves through tazers


Braineack 10-02-2014 01:40 PM

in america, if you pay for the train, you get the pigs all wilded up


Braineack 10-02-2014 01:43 PM

in america, you are always a suspect.


Braineack 10-03-2014 07:43 AM

when police go fishing, you lose

Vermont Cop Pulls Car Over for Nonexistent Traffic Violation, Tows It to Search for Evidence of Nonexistent Crime - Hit & Run : Reason.com


Trooper Lewis Hatch stopped Zullo, a 21-year-old resident of Rutland, on Route 7 in Wallingford around 3 p.m. on March 6, ostensibly because snow partially obscured the registration sticker on his rear license plate. But as the ACLU points out, that is not a traffic violation under Vermont law. In fact, the complaint says, "Mr. Zullo was perfectly obeying all applicable traffic laws when driving through Wallingford that day."

After detaining Zullo for an hour and unsuccessfully pressing him for permission to search the car, Hatch had it towed to the local state police barracks. In his application for a warrant to search the car, Hatch claimed to have smelled "the faint odor of burnt marijuana coming from within the vehicle." He also mentioned seeing an air freshener and eye drops in the car, and he reported that a drug-sniffing dog at the state police barracks "alerted twice on the trunk," then "climbed up on the hood." In Vermont, the ACLU argues, such evidence does not constitute probable cause to believe a search will reveal evidence of a crime, since possessing up to an ounce of marijuana is no longer a crime in that state, which last year made it a civil offense.

Hatch reported that he found a pipe and a grinder in Zullo's car, both containing "marijuana residue." (Did he find them in the trunk, to which the dog supposedly alerted? Hatch did not say.) Zullo was not charged with any offense, since there was none to charge him with. But he did not get his car back until about 10 p.m., seven hours after he was stopped. "To add insult to injury," says ACLU of Vermont Executive Director Allen Gilbert, "the state police made him pay $150 for the tow, as if the situation was his fault."

Braineack 10-03-2014 07:46 AM

my favorite part is when they shoot him in the back with his arms raised up


Braineack 10-06-2014 07:43 AM

This guy wore an interesting shirt to court to fight his plate obstruction ticket:

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Braineack 10-06-2014 07:47 AM

im a cop, you understand me motherfucker



The nearly two minute long and highly disturbing video shows Holloway being brutally beaten, while face down and handcuffed, by Officer Escobar.

Escobar began working for OPD in 2012, and has already been the target of several citizen complaints, none of which have led to formal internal investigations or discipline, The Sentinel reported.

Holloway was not charged with assaulting an officer or resisting arrest, despite the blatant lies in Escobar’s police report.

According to Escobar’s report, he meant to punch Holloway in the back, but instead hit him in the head as he was trying to stand up while resisting being handcuffed.

The video uploaded to YouTube shows that to be a lie, as he was already cuffed and face down as the officer began assaulting him.

Escobar proceeds to drag Holloway several feet and claims he kicked Holloway after Holloway “curled up” his leg as if to kick the officer, WFTV reports.

This was also a lie, disproven by his sister’s footage.

The Orlando Police Department also lied for the officer in their checklist that they sent to the State Attorney’s office, claiming there was no body camera footage, which we now know does infact exist.

Braineack 10-06-2014 07:52 AM

just funny:


taser gives this crazy homeless guy the power to break free.

Braineack 10-06-2014 07:54 AM

speaking of homeless people...


Braineack 10-06-2014 07:56 AM

today in freedom:

http://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/c...214zr_086c.pdf


This Court has held that, during an otherwise lawful traffic stop, asking a driver to exit a vehicle, conducting a drug sniff with a trained canine, or asking a few off-topic questions are “de minimis” intrusions on personal liberty that do not require reasonable suspicion of criminal activity in order to comport with the Fourth Amendment. This case poses the question of whether the same rule applies after the conclusion of the traffic stop, so that an officer may extend the already-completed stop for a canine sniff without reasonable suspicion or other lawful justification.
the supreme court will determine if a police officer can stop you for a traffic violation, but without any reasonable suspicion or justification can ask you to exit your vehicle, have a drug dog sniff your car, or ask unrelated questions and will probably rule on the time limit they can hold you. iirc, it's 8min currently, at 9min you violate de minimis.

Braineack 10-06-2014 08:03 AM

nazi cops from outer space:

The Charleston Gazette | Sources: Charleston cop suspended over videos


A Charleston police lieutenant on paid administrative leave is under investigation for making racially insensitive video recordings, sources familiar with the investigation said.

Lt. Shawn Williams, of the Charleston Police Department, was placed on leave last week pending an investigation by the Police Department’s professional standards division. The investigation was triggered after police obtained video recordings taken from Williams’ computer, according to those familiar with the investigation.

Two sources who have seen the recordings say the videos depict Williams’ young daughter dressed in what appear to be articles of a police uniform and dancing to an anthem of the Ku Klux Klan. The refrain of the song repeats the words, “Stand up and be counted, show the world that you’re a man. Stand up and be counted, go with the Ku Klux Klan.”

On the videos, a man alleged to be Williams can be heard asking the girl questions. Derogatory racial language can be heard, sources said. Sources said there were several similar videos on the computer.

Williams said Monday he could not comment on the allegations.

“My wife and I are in the middle of a difficult and painful divorce,” he said. “Neither of us can or should disclose or comment on deeply personal matters involving our children, who are my first concern. These matters involve a sealed court proceeding.”

Charleston Police Chief Brent Webster said he could not talk about the investigation because it involves personnel issues. He said he did not know how long the investigation might take.

Braineack 10-06-2014 08:07 AM

cops use any excuse to kill, even tips from car thieves that make alse claims to throw cops off the trail:

Cops Shoot and Kill Grandpa in Raid Based on Tip from the Thief Who Stole His Car | Alternet


When Teresa Hooks looked outside the craft room window of her Georgia home one night last week, she saw hooded figures wearing camouflage standing outside.

The East Dublin woman woke up her husband, David Hooks, who grabbed his shotgun, believing burglars who had recently targeted the couple had come back again, reported WMAZ-TV.

The sheriff’s deputies burst through the back door about 11 p.m. on Sept. 24 and, seeing David Hooks holding the weapon, fired 16 shots – killing the 59-year-old grandfather.

Authorities said Hooks met deputies at the door and pointed his weapon aggressively at officers as they announced themselves.

But Teresa Hooks said the officers did not knock and never identified themselves as law enforcement, and her attorney said David Hooks was killed behind a wall in the home — not at the door.

Deputies were executing a search warrant as part of a drug investigation based on a tip from one of the burglars accused of stealing a vehicle from Hooks.
they broke in the door and fired 16 shots. They got a drug tip from the person who stole Hooks car. Cops will do ANYTHING to make a drug bust, even becoming criminals/murders themselves.

Braineack 10-06-2014 08:10 AM

always trust your gov't:

Man files lawsuit for being wrongly jailed for a year | www.wsbtv.com


A lawsuit filed Friday claims a man spent more than a year in custody on someone else's charges.

Last summer, Channel 2 Investigative Reporter Mark Winne broke this story of what happened to Kenneth Williams.

One of Williams' lawyers said somebody else's information got attached to Williams' name in Fulton County jail records.

Now Williams' name appears as a plaintiff in a lawsuit against Sheriff Ted Jackson, who it described as the official jailer of Fulton County and several others, many of them identified by the description “booking officer and/or “documents specialist.”

“It's frightening when you know you aren't the person,” Williams said.

Williams’ attorneys, John Merchant and Ashleigh Merchant, said an innocent man went to jail.

“We know that an innocent person went to jail on charges for crimes he didn't commit, and he was also forced to be institutionalized against his will,” said John Merchant.

“It's been kind of a nightmare to me,” Williams said.

The suit suggests Williams spent 370 days in custody on another man's charges.

“[The] plaintiff's information and charges were commingled with those of another person, which resulted in plaintiff being arrested, incarcerated and forcibly injected with psychotropic medications for roughly a year."

“Being force-medicated by the state is horrible,” said Ashleigh Merchant.

The suit suggests that as a result of the incorrect records, a judge had “ordered that Williams be involuntarily medicated in order to stand trial” on the other man's drug charges.

John Merchant said Williams, who was at times homeless, was only at the jail on low-level misdemeanors when the Merchants believe his information and the other man's got mixed up.

While Williams was at the jail or Georgia Regional Hospital, the man to whom the drug charges really belonged was picked up and released twice by police.

Braineack 10-06-2014 08:11 AM

cops will do anything for a drug bust:

Oops! Cops raid Georgia man’s home after mistaking okra for weed


A Georgia man was awoken Wednesday morning to find a police helicopter hovering overhead and sheriff’s deputies at the door to search his property for drugs.

“They were strapped to the gills,” said Dwayne Perry, describing the heavily armed officers.

Agents from the Governor’s Task Force for drug suppression flying overhead spotted what they believed to be marijuana growing in the yard of Perry’s home in Cartersville, reported WSB-TV.

But the plants were, in fact, okra.

“We’ve not been able to identify it as of yet, but it did have quite a number of characteristics that were similar to a cannabis plant,” Capt. Kermit Stokes, of the Georgia State Patrol, told the TV station.

Perry said the mistake shouldn’t have been made, because okra has five leaves — not seven, as cannabis does.

“Here I am, at home and retired and, you know, I do the right thing,” Perry said. “Then they come to my house strapped with weapons for no reason. It ain’t right.”

Law enforcement officers apologized to Perry after examining the plants, saying they were only trying to do their jobs, but the homeowner said the mistake could potentially have gotten him killed or injured.

dieselmiata 10-06-2014 09:43 AM

But they were just doing their jobs!

Lincoln Heights firefighters return to work, police department s - Cincinnati News, FOX19-WXIX TV

Braineack 10-06-2014 09:54 AM

recurring theme: google: police department shut down

Braineack 10-06-2014 03:09 PM

license. registration. jesus.

Lawsuit: State trooper preached about Jesus during traffic stop


Ellen Bogan expects police to protect and serve — not proselytize.

But she says Indiana State Police Trooper Brian Hamilton pitched Christianity to her when he pulled her over for an alleged traffic violation in August on U.S. 27 in Union County.

With the lights on his marked police car still flashing, the trooper handed Bogan a warning ticket. Then, Bogan said, Hamilton posed some personal questions.

Did she have a home church?

Did she accept Jesus Christ as her savior?

"It's completely out of line and it just — it took me back," Bogan, 60, told The Indianapolis Star.

Bogan and the American Civil Liberties Union have filed a lawsuit in federal court against Hamilton. The lawsuit alleges he violated Bogan's First and Fourth Amendment rights when he probed into her religious background and handed her a church pamphlet that asks the reader "to acknowledge that she is a sinner."

Joe Perez 10-06-2014 10:23 PM

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But, in all seriousness (and not related to the specific post above), are we actually positing that criminals, thugs and the homeless have the same rights / protections / civil liberties as citizens?

mgeoffriau 10-07-2014 09:37 AM


Braineack 10-07-2014 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1173538)
But, in all seriousness (and not related to the specific post above), are we actually positing that criminals, thugs and the homeless have the same rights / protections / civil liberties as citizens?

Are you actually positing that they don't?

This is america. Are you suggesting that criminals, thugs, and the homeless are not american citizens with inalienable rights and equal protection under the law?

just because of your prejustices against anyone that doesn't have blonde hair and blue eyes...

Davezorz 10-07-2014 11:12 AM

While I do not agree with it, convicted criminals demonstrably do not have the same rights as non-criminal citizens.

The most blatant example of this is losing their second amendment rights. In some states felons are not allowed to participate in elections.

Braineack 10-07-2014 11:27 AM

im assuming that Joe meant accused.

dieselmiata 10-07-2014 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1173538)
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But, in all seriousness (and not related to the specific post above), are we actually positing that criminals, thugs and the homeless have the same rights / protections / civil liberties as citizens?

How do you define this? Are you claiming that I should not have the same rights / protections / civil liberties as other citizens because I was convicted of reckless driving 10 years ago?

I'd be willing to bet that every single one of us is a criminal under definition of the law.

z31maniac 10-07-2014 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Davezorz (Post 1173636)
While I do not agree with it, convicted criminals demonstrably do not have the same rights as non-criminal citizens.

The most blatant example of this is losing their second amendment rights. In some states felons are not allowed to participate in elections.

Just to be pedantic, that would be a convicted FELON.

dieselmiata 10-07-2014 12:29 PM

Hammond police accused of excessive force in traffic stop | abc7chicago.com

Enginerd 10-07-2014 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Davezorz (Post 1173636)
While I do not agree with it, convicted criminals demonstrably do not have the same rights as non-criminal citizens.

The most blatant example of this is losing their second amendment rights. In some states felons are not allowed to participate in elections.

In Chicago, this means most former politicians cannot vote. :rofl:

Davezorz 10-07-2014 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1173642)
im assuming that Joe meant accused.

fair enough, I was thinking along the lines of you are not officially a criminal until you have been convicted. I thought it was an oddly ambiguous comment from Joe, he is normally exceptionally specific in his posts.



Just to be pedantic, that would be a convicted FELON
not true for gun rights, off the top of my head:
Being convicted of a misdemeanor that has a maximum sentence of more than 1 year in prison
Any kind of misdemeanor domestic violence conviction.
That is why those specific questions are on the ATF form 4473.


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