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Old 12-06-2010, 10:54 AM   #1
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i haven't seen a thread about it here, but, whats the word in the US?

What are people thinking and saying?
Does anyone care?
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Apparently people are scared to discuss in public, in fear of losing their Gov jobs or the possibility of working for uncle sam in the future.
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Old 12-06-2010, 11:00 AM   #3
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Well, ok, don't discuss the content, but what about the act itself of leaking and posting the documents.
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Remember when the NY Times wouldn't publish the leaked emails over the faked global warming data, but they would post classified US documents?

When does that "network neutrality" law get passed?
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I'd love to discuss it but I'm not permitted to view that site on my PERSONAL computer as my agency has a policy which suspends my employment and investigates my professional integrity.

It's a shame, I want to read the stuff on BoA.
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They are still classified documents.
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I can't look at them because I could lose my clearance or fail a polygraph if its ever required for elevated access.
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Samsies... The temptation has been strong, but I don't want to look at the site for the reasons listed above.
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They are still classified documents.
...and I still think "we" should snuff out the man compromising national security on issues related to national security. Issues related to commerce with no security implication like BoA information should be part of Hussein Obama's initiative for transparency.
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They are still classified documents.
Which makes them that much more tempting to read!
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The only Cable i have found interesting so far is that the Koreans are the Zerg.



I haven't read any of it, no interest at all. However, I think need to handle this.
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Old 12-06-2010, 12:25 PM   #12
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Ever hear of the pentagon papers? Same **** publisized by news papers back in the 70's and the newspapers were not found liable. At best they have to charge the person who actually leaked the documents which they have already have in custody.

Personally I am glad for all the leaks and bring transparancy to our government. The fact alone that we have now seen that hilarily clinton told diplomats to spy at the UN is absolutely rediculous.
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I've gone through and read a couple of the leaked cables. They're actually pretty interesting to read.

However, reading through some of the Iraq/Afghanistan battle reports, I really don't see how these reports could create a real national security problems. Here's the typical report:

"Saw two guys digging a hole near road XYZ, we killed them"

However most of the people I've talked to about it think the plans to our death star have been leaked and there's a giant glowing arrow pointing to our exhaust port...
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Old 12-06-2010, 12:26 PM   #14
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From where I'm sitting, it seems that there are two ways for a government to function: Honest and transparent, or shady and secretive.Unfortunately for us,historically it seems to be the latter of the two.

None of the cables reveal anything that 'compromises national security'. More than anything, they reveal just how downright dishonest we are at dealing with foreign governments and how much **** we talk amongst ourselves ( I don't want to say much more in order to preserve the policy restrictions that some of you need to maintain. There are other things that make a better point, but it gets a little too specific)

Back to my first statement: I 110% support the ideals by which wikileaks is operating. If we truly believe that we live in the Land of the Free, we need complete transparency in our government to aid accountability. Having said that, considering the way our government has kept things hush-hush for so long, suddenly introducing all this transparency poses a problem that I'm not completely comfortable with: From this point forward, people will be afraid to say anything ' in confidence' to any member of our government, which ultimately in the grand scheme of global politics puts us at something of a disadvantage. While nothing that was released has put anyone in danger as some news outlets would have you believe, being thought of as that gossiping kid can do nothing but bad things for us at this point.
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I'm just waiting for the wikileak of Obama's Birth Certificate :!
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Does anyone care?
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

Much of what I've seen on the news sites may have been classified but wasn't exactly secret or surprising IMO. Like the fact that the Saudis wouldn't mind if we bombed Iran. Or that the Chinese are behind a bunch of cyber attacks. I haven't seen anything quite as criminal and life-endangering as, for example, intentionally leaking the identity of a covert CIA operative.

The little corner of the govt that pays me has not yet issued any guidance that I've seen regarding the suitability of that site for my consumption, but I'm not going to risk it. Anything really juicy will probably make it onto CNN anyway.
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Old 12-06-2010, 12:55 PM   #17
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Also they have only published something like 900 of the 250k documents they have in the cables. They are doing a slow release so things are not getting over looked.

So we still have lots of goodies to come.



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Old 12-06-2010, 01:12 PM   #18
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Crazy part of all of this is that I couldn't view it if I wanted. Restricted at school, and at home. Not sure why SuddenLink felt compelled to nanny my personal web access but I haven't been anywhere I could view it.
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Crazy part of all of this is that I couldn't view it if I wanted. Restricted at school, and at home. Not sure why SuddenLink felt compelled to nanny my personal web access but I haven't been anywhere I could view it.
What do you mean restricted? wikileaks.com no longer works. rootDNS servers took it down. wikileaks.ch still works.
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Anyone contibuting classified documents to the site and any US citizen that aids in posting the content to the web should be charged with treason and hung from an oak tree by there ball sack until they die.

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