COP Thread
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From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Those of us who live in California have to un-modify our cars every two years for the ARB's state-sanctioned protological certification and eye exam. Being able to plug straight into the factory wiring makes it easier and quicker to remove and reinstall.
Neat trick. Although in my case, the bottom of the ignitor was held on not with silicone, but with a very hard cement, almost like JB-weld, but white. It was surprisingly difficult to prise free.
I used a bandsaw to slice the back edge off (the side furthest from the connector) and then took the plate off wth heavy needle-nose pliers. It bent the metal somewhat, causing the circuit board to shatter. By the way- when you're prying that circuit board off the plate be very careful- it seems to be made of porcelin or glass, and I cut my thumb on one of the shards. Wouldn't have been so bad had my hands not been covered in brake cleaner from trying to remove that horrible clear goo.
Although in my case, the bottom of the ignitor was held on not with silicone, but with a very hard cement, almost like JB-weld, but white. It was surprisingly difficult to prise free.
I used a bandsaw to slice the back edge off (the side furthest from the connector) and then took the plate off wth heavy needle-nose pliers. It bent the metal somewhat, causing the circuit board to shatter. By the way- when you're prying that circuit board off the plate be very careful- it seems to be made of porcelin or glass, and I cut my thumb on one of the shards. Wouldn't have been so bad had my hands not been covered in brake cleaner from trying to remove that horrible clear goo.
Although in my case, the bottom of the ignitor was held on not with silicone, but with a very hard cement, almost like JB-weld, but white. It was surprisingly difficult to prise free.
odd. the glue in mind was nasty, snot-like in consitensy. Like rubber cement that didn't harden, but a lot stronger. My pcb board is very happily sealed to the metal plate. I have been unable to pry it free, and it's neither budged nor broken.
My ignitor is part # J702T-0706. I remember that the one on the car now has a different part # on it after the -. Perhaps a different sealant was used on the different runs.
I would wired up the COPs and given it a go (minus hold down bracketry) Sunday, but I couldn't find my fine duty soldering gun. Oh, and I didn't pick up any pins to make coil plugs anyway.
My ignitor is part # J702T-0706. I remember that the one on the car now has a different part # on it after the -. Perhaps a different sealant was used on the different runs.

I would wired up the COPs and given it a go (minus hold down bracketry) Sunday, but I couldn't find my fine duty soldering gun. Oh, and I didn't pick up any pins to make coil plugs anyway.
Ok, so I filled up before I drove to the machine shop in roanoke this morning. The round trip totalled almost exactly 90 miles for me with a nice 5 mile 500+foot mountain climb near the end. My fuel gauge is just at the very first tick after that. So it looks like I'm on the way to at least 300miles to this tank. Pretty good considering I was at only 200 last tank with highway driving.
Joined: Sep 2005
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From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Oh, and I didn't pick up any pins to make coil plugs anyway.
http://cableorganizer.com/wire-loom/wire-loom-tees.htm
These things are great for making cleen looking splitloom harnesses.
These things are great for making cleen looking splitloom harnesses.
70 sent
EDIT: Oops, something isn't working for me lazzer i might have to flakeout on this one.
Anyone that wants to take my place, feel free.
EDIT: Oops, something isn't working for me lazzer i might have to flakeout on this one.
Anyone that wants to take my place, feel free.
Last edited by cjernigan; Aug 6, 2007 at 05:36 PM.
I've never tried it, but that would appear to be the case. Below are excerpts from the EMU install manual. 

The tuning manual also notes that CAS input is necessary for the conversion. I'm not sure if the EMU will like the Miata's CAS since it does not have a discrete #1 sensor...


The tuning manual also notes that CAS input is necessary for the conversion. I'm not sure if the EMU will like the Miata's CAS since it does not have a discrete #1 sensor...
I'm running megasquirt on my '99 using a '97 CAS which is super easy to install. Megasquirt uses the CAS signal and will fire the COPs in my situation in batch form.
Maybe there is someway to filter the crank sensor on the front of the motor into a different signal so that the COPS could be fired that way. That would be quite an ordeal though. I think Arga experimented with that using MSII as well.
What engine management do you want to use?
Maybe there is someway to filter the crank sensor on the front of the motor into a different signal so that the COPS could be fired that way. That would be quite an ordeal though. I think Arga experimented with that using MSII as well.
What engine management do you want to use?
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TurboTim
y8s
I have you guys covered. Toss in $5 for shipping usps.
Total $65
Paypal to Lazzer408@yahoo.com
I will personally test them before shipment.
Only 3 more orders. COP guys lets go! Get some of them m-net guys over here. (feel's like I'm pushing crack)
EDIT - Sorry Tim I forgot to mention. Yes they are the 1ZZFE coils I used.
TurboTim
y8s
I have you guys covered. Toss in $5 for shipping usps.
Total $65
Paypal to Lazzer408@yahoo.com
I will personally test them before shipment.
Only 3 more orders. COP guys lets go! Get some of them m-net guys over here. (feel's like I'm pushing crack)
EDIT - Sorry Tim I forgot to mention. Yes they are the 1ZZFE coils I used.
Also, does this include wires or just plugs? If not wires, what are the rest of you guys doing?
I don't like the idea of soldering wires up to the connectors. Too much opportunity for a short.
I'll be using .110 shielded crimp connectors from radioshack... have to buy 8 packs of the pack of 10 to get 2 of the .110 per pack.... but its sheiled and they just just fit.
Ok... 2 or 3 of the fully shielded radioshack ones can fit side by side.... but its super tight. I think i'll run 2 shielded and 2 non in there... and shrinkwrap the non shielded ones.
I'm running megasquirt on my '99 using a '97 CAS which is super easy to install. Megasquirt uses the CAS signal and will fire the COPs in my situation in batch form.
Maybe there is someway to filter the crank sensor on the front of the motor into a different signal so that the COPS could be fired that way. That would be quite an ordeal though. I think Arga experimented with that using MSII as well.
What engine management do you want to use?
Maybe there is someway to filter the crank sensor on the front of the motor into a different signal so that the COPS could be fired that way. That would be quite an ordeal though. I think Arga experimented with that using MSII as well.
What engine management do you want to use?
Sorry I didn't catch it. Did you PM me? I have AIM and Yahoo too. cjernigan offered someone to have his. In that case I'll put you down in his place.
Ampz-paid.
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firedog25
Shipping in the usa shouldn't be more then $10 usps so the rest of you ordering the coils send $70 to Lazzer408@yahoo.com via. Paypal.
When all 6 sets are paid I'll place the order and get them out asap.
Thanks.
edit - I'd like to get these sets ordered by Thursday Aug. 9th.
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Payment required from:
SOL general
beerslurpy
firedog25
Shipping in the usa shouldn't be more then $10 usps so the rest of you ordering the coils send $70 to Lazzer408@yahoo.com via. Paypal.
When all 6 sets are paid I'll place the order and get them out asap.
Thanks.
edit - I'd like to get these sets ordered by Thursday Aug. 9th.
Last edited by lazzer408; Aug 6, 2007 at 10:34 PM.









