COP Thread
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the terminals are slightly offset towards the top of center. The drawing shows these terminals are centered. But the dimensions look good, other than that.
Boy i hope i don't get in trouble... but I had tyco ship me a sample of the 184046-1 plug... as a representative of my school
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It'll be to me early next week.
Only bad news is... if it works... they only sell them in 1k batches....
. It'll be to me early next week.
Only bad news is... if it works... they only sell them in 1k batches....
if it works, we could probably get an appropriate quantity from a tyco distributor instead of from tyco directly. i think the terminals are 1-1.5mm to low (they are centered top-bottom, instead of offset towards the top). Perhaps they will still work.
also, I would assume they require terminal pins.
also, I would assume they require terminal pins.
Well we know there are at least 10 people x 4 plugs here, so we need someone to buy the other 960. How much do they want for 1k of them?
If this turns out to make real power, all the Link turbo guys will probably want them.
If this turns out to make real power, all the Link turbo guys will probably want them.
if it works, we could probably get an appropriate quantity from a tyco distributor instead of from tyco directly. i think the terminals are 1-1.5mm to low (they are centered top-bottom, instead of offset towards the top). Perhaps they will still work.
also, I would assume they require terminal pins.
also, I would assume they require terminal pins.
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you'll get in trouble with me. you should have ordered FOUR samples. Tyco doesn't care where they go that much.
This is a great thread for a cheap COP setup. If the connectors can be found, this would be awesome.
Just a few questions with this setup.
1. Does anyone know if this setup is actually stronger than the stock 1.6L ignition setup. I know the benefits of not having to run plug wires and noise, but in terms of actual spark voltage/power, is there a definitive answer. I'm contemplating with my turbo setup to go this route or to put an MSD DIS-2 system in. I'm having misfires running at 15psi now.
2. I have an AEM EMS. Are the dwell settings the same for this ignition setup. Anyone know what it should be?
Just a few questions with this setup.
1. Does anyone know if this setup is actually stronger than the stock 1.6L ignition setup. I know the benefits of not having to run plug wires and noise, but in terms of actual spark voltage/power, is there a definitive answer. I'm contemplating with my turbo setup to go this route or to put an MSD DIS-2 system in. I'm having misfires running at 15psi now.
2. I have an AEM EMS. Are the dwell settings the same for this ignition setup. Anyone know what it should be?
come on nub, this thread is only 11 pages, and all of your questions have already been asked and answered 

Ok people are you ready!!! I'm proud to anounce that the connector is...
GM Part number 88973784 and GM list is $4.58 and at GM direct it is $2.71
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/
I verified this with a GM distributor and had him look up connector to verify that that part number was the terminal for the ignition coil.
You guys owe me one! =)
EDIT - wait wait... GM 88974044 (List $23.26, Gm parts direct $13.79) shows to be the connector. (withoug leads)
88973784 could just be a terminal.
GM Part number 88973784 and GM list is $4.58 and at GM direct it is $2.71
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/
I verified this with a GM distributor and had him look up connector to verify that that part number was the terminal for the ignition coil.
You guys owe me one! =)
EDIT - wait wait... GM 88974044 (List $23.26, Gm parts direct $13.79) shows to be the connector. (withoug leads)
88973784 could just be a terminal.
Sorry if I offended anyone on the *** post here. What I was asking is if anyone actually knows the specifications of the coils and the spark it produces. Most of the evidence show are just from not experiencing any more misfires and spark plugs looking better. The cure for these things can be attributed to many factors including a 15yr old stock ignition system that may not have been up to par. These coils are for toyota corollas and that car doesn't require a high performance ignition system capable of handling the duties of forced induction. You are basically changing from one OEM system to another that is of the equivalent type of car stock. Which is why I asked the question.
As to the dwell time, the AEM can change the dwell time and yes I did miss the post that I can select the toyota corolla coils which would make my life easier for this conversion. However, I see many are using this with the stock ECU which has dwell setting for the stock miata igniter and coil. Are the dwell setting for the stock miata the same as for these toyota cop. If the toyota coils require less dwell time, you may overheat these igniters, if they require more, they might not be used to their potential. I have not seen any post that tells me what the dwell settings are for these coils.
As to the dwell time, the AEM can change the dwell time and yes I did miss the post that I can select the toyota corolla coils which would make my life easier for this conversion. However, I see many are using this with the stock ECU which has dwell setting for the stock miata igniter and coil. Are the dwell setting for the stock miata the same as for these toyota cop. If the toyota coils require less dwell time, you may overheat these igniters, if they require more, they might not be used to their potential. I have not seen any post that tells me what the dwell settings are for these coils.
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Ok people are you ready!!! I'm proud to anounce that the connector is...
GM Part number 88973784 and GM list is $4.58 and at GM direct it is $2.71
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/
I verified this with a GM distributor and had him look up connector to verify that that part number was the terminal for the ignition coil.
You guys owe me one! =)
EDIT - wait wait... GM 88974044 (List $23.26, Gm parts direct $13.79) shows to be the connector. (withoug leads)
88973784 could just be a terminal.
GM Part number 88973784 and GM list is $4.58 and at GM direct it is $2.71
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/
I verified this with a GM distributor and had him look up connector to verify that that part number was the terminal for the ignition coil.
You guys owe me one! =)
EDIT - wait wait... GM 88974044 (List $23.26, Gm parts direct $13.79) shows to be the connector. (withoug leads)
88973784 could just be a terminal.
you should be able to pick the contacts up for very very very cheap at onlinecomponents.com if you figure out the size/shape. Most likely .070" contacts as Ben found the ecu contacts works.
however, it's a shame that the connectors will cost more than my coils...I see a date with epoxy in my future.
calm yo'self Red. One of our members, JasonC, is going to test the Toyo coils for output and best dwell in the next few days










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