COP Thread
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Ok guys this just hit me! When I needed a connector for a map sensor I bought it at a GM dealer. Since a Pontiac Vibe is a Toyota with a 1ZZFE engine then maybe a GM dealer could look up the connectors for the COP coils??? =) Someone hit up a dealer and ask for maybe a '03+ Vibe coil connector. Then ask for quantity discounts!
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mounting tabs on the coil, it has 2 on top. the connector you pictured has one slot on top, one on bottom. that connector you pictured looks like it is the right design. just no way to know if it's sized and proportioned right.
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I think Lazzer's solution has merit. A flip-flop could be set on the rising edge of the CMP, and reset on the trailing edge of the second CKP thereafter. The output of this flip-flop would drive two pairs of gates, with an inverting buffer on the switch input to one pair. This would make the mod compatible with MS as well as stock ECUs and piggybacks.
However, I won't be the one building it unfortunately. When I epoxied my coils I only connected tach wires to two of them, so my engine will be running wasted-spark unless someone out there wishes to donate two coils to the project.
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Doing some poking around this morning, I think while looking at the GM Parts sites....
Chevrolet Prizm - 2000->2002 might have the same coils in it.
This site lists the coils for the 2002-> 2006 vibe as the same part number (GT is different from the base), however it also implies that the prizm uses the same part number.
www.gmpartsdirect.com
My mom just got a new 2006 vibe. The next time I see it, I'll try to get some shots of the coils and also the connectors......
EDIT: Confirmed from another GM parts site -- these look the same too, plus the same part number:
http://parts.replacementgeneralparts...1&make_code=CV
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Chevrolet Prizm - 2000->2002 might have the same coils in it.
This site lists the coils for the 2002-> 2006 vibe as the same part number (GT is different from the base), however it also implies that the prizm uses the same part number.
www.gmpartsdirect.com
My mom just got a new 2006 vibe. The next time I see it, I'll try to get some shots of the coils and also the connectors......
EDIT: Confirmed from another GM parts site -- these look the same too, plus the same part number:
http://parts.replacementgeneralparts...1&make_code=CV
Dave,
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keying tabs are trivial. I'm just trying to find the right family. It appppppearrrrs to be a standard bosch connector. possibly made by amp/tyco but I can't find it on their site.
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this: http://order.waytekwire.com/IMAGES/M...og/219_034.pdf or this: http://order.waytekwire.com/IMAGES/M...og/219_035.pdf work?
damn this looks the closest, however, dual row, not signal: http://order.waytekwire.com/IMAGES/M...og/219_037.pdf
damn this looks the closest, however, dual row, not signal: http://order.waytekwire.com/IMAGES/M...og/219_037.pdf
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http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/T...^N~1^IDS~48035
orrrr
http://www.molex.com/cgi-bin/bv/mole...cehedffgdfmk.0
Maybe.
ben, can you tell me the dimensions of the connector at all? terminal width and spacing, if they're centered top to bottom. if there's any keying (I saw none) other than the latch on top...
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http://www.molex.com/cgi-bin/bv/mole...cehedffgdfmk.0
Maybe.
ben, can you tell me the dimensions of the connector at all? terminal width and spacing, if they're centered top to bottom. if there's any keying (I saw none) other than the latch on top...
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Originally Posted by Ben
the cop connector outside measurement is 1" wide x 7/16" high. 4 male rectangular pins inside. I don't have a micrometer to get down in there but they appear 1/16" wide and .7mm high. They are evenly spaced left and right, but are set up closer to the top of the coil than to the bottom.
However, I have access to both tools, 30 minutes away from me. f you find somehthing that seems like it will work I will go take good measurements. The only key I recall is the 2 small raised ridges on top, one on either side of center. They will immediately disappear with a razor or dremel.
<edit> I was wrong about the keys. there are 3 on top, all convexities. top center key is wedge shaped. pointy end of triangle forward, less than 1mm tall towards rear. 5mm wide. designed for a release tab to grab. on either side of the wedge is a bump, each is 3mm from their respective end of the wedge, and 1mm wide, 2mm deep (front to back), 1mm tall
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http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/T...&N=1&IDS=48035
Go here... Click
Product Drawings:
1 X 4 PLG ASY KEY A-C3 (PDF, English)
The actual part of that plug that inserts into the coil's connector will fit. I'm not sure about the clip though.
I have specs for the Toyota connector I'll post in a minute.
Go here... Click
Product Drawings:
1 X 4 PLG ASY KEY A-C3 (PDF, English)
The actual part of that plug that inserts into the coil's connector will fit. I'm not sure about the clip though.
I have specs for the Toyota connector I'll post in a minute.
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Looking at the coil the ID is 22mm x 8.5mm and pin spacing is 5mm
The connector Braineack and I are talking about has a plug OD of 20.4mm x 7.1mm and has 5mm pin spacing. In other words it fits electrically but I can't tell if the "retainment housing" will clip to the coil. Order a test sample.
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