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Old 03-28-2009, 06:28 PM   #101
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Someone ballast their car with 500lb and make an identical run, I'm a bit curious.
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Old 06-05-2009, 12:21 AM   #102
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Here's some data from my new setup.

Engine: 01' 1.9L
Turbo: Garrett GT 3076
Manifold: Tubular
Downpipe Size/Style: 3"
Exhaust Size: 3"
Engine Management: Hydra
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: MBC
Trans & Rear End Ratio: 6-speed, 3.6 gears
Rear tire size: 225-45-15's

FIFTH GEAR PULL:

RPM Boost(psi)

2600 1 PSI
3050 2 PSI
3350 3 PSI
3500 4 PSI
3600 5 PSI
3750 6 PSI
3800 7 PSI
3850 8 PSI
3900 9 PSI
4000 10 PSI
4050 11 PSI
4100 13 PSI
4150 15 PSI
4200 17 PSI
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Friday night and I'm out datalogging pulls... I'm such a rockstar.

Engine: '92 1.6L
Turbo: GT2560
Manifold: FM “new”
Downpipe Size/Style: FM
Exhaust Size: 2.5
Exhaust Components: no cat, magnaflow muffler
Intercooler Core Size: 15” FM
Intake Manifold: Stock
Headwork: none
Engine Management: Megasquirt
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: MS EBC (shitty tune) Elevation: 4,304 FT
Trans & Rear End Ratio: 5-speed, stock 1.6 VLSD
Rear tire size: 205-50-15

4th gear pull

2216 1.6
2469 3.1
2700 4.3
2942 6.2
3114 7.0
3332 8.1
3661 9.0
3800 9.5
3850 10.1

Ran out of road….
Max boost is roughly 13psi

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Old 06-07-2009, 01:47 AM   #104
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Did the pull on the way home from my buddy's house. ~55F outside

Engine: '90 1.6L
Turbo: Old Garrett T28. .60A/R
Manifold: BEGi Cast "Directed Pulse"
Downpipe Size/Style: Old FM2 bell mouth. 2.25" to 2.5"
Exhaust Size: 2.5" straight.
Exhaust Components: Glasspack resonator.
Intercooler Core Size: 18"x12"x3"
Intake Manifold: Stock
Headwork: None, stock
Engine Management: MSPNP 9093
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: FM MBC.
Trans & Rear End Ratio: 5-speed, 4.1 LSD
Rear tire size: 205/50R15

FOURTH GEAR PULL:

RPM Boost(psi)
1290 0.1
1322 1
1542 2
1780 3
2002 4.5
2131 5.1
2523 6.1
2750 7.5
2996 9.4
3205 11.3
3505 11.8
3638 12.5
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:45 PM   #105
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Engine: '93 1.6L
Turbo: T3
Manifold: Ebay cast cheapie
Downpipe Size/Style: 2.5" modified Ebay cheapie
Exhaust Size: 2.5
Exhaust Components: stock cat, Tsudo catback
Intercooler Core Size: Evo 7 JDM
Intake Manifold: Stock
Headwork: none
Engine Management: Megasquirt PNP
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: MBC set at 8.5-9#
Elevation: sea level
Trans & Rear End Ratio: 5-speed, stock 1.8 open
Rear tire size: 195-50-14

4th gear pull

2406 0.2
2506 1.5
2609 2.8
2710 4.5
2812 6.1
2926 7.8
3043 8.3
3209 8.9
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Old 07-18-2009, 09:04 AM   #106
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Probably my first post here but I though I'd update the list and make it simpler for those not versed in Excel to add their data and repost. Data is getting pretty thick now so perhaps an averaging data setup might help show your position better.
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Old 07-18-2009, 10:26 AM   #107
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Old 07-18-2009, 01:52 PM   #108
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Probably my first post here but I though I'd update the list and make it simpler for those not versed in Excel to add their data and repost. Data is getting pretty thick now so perhaps an averaging data setup might help show your position better.
Thanks for that, looks like I'm pretty average.
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Old 07-18-2009, 08:11 PM   #109
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I did remake the data into turbo sizes with secitoned graphs and for a final trick an averaging graph for sectioned data. At that point however, Excel decided it had had enough for the day and died so I cant post it
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Old 07-19-2009, 10:57 PM   #110
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Engine: 323 GTX 1929cc Fully built-8.5:1 cr
Turbo: 2871 .64 a/r internal wastegate
Manifold: Custom SS log 45deg top/front mount
Downpipe Size/Style: 3" bellmouth style, uber low radius bend
Exhaust Size: 3"
Exhaust Components: 3" straight-thru magnaflow
Intercooler Core Size: Stock SRT-4 BITCHES!!!(found to suck above 15psi)
Intake Manifold: 94 ported and matched
Headwork: Yes but stock cams and gears
Engine Management: MSPNP
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: lightened oem flywheel, ported throttle body spacer, 2.5" i/c piping, ms EBC, 7psi spring, More timing than you can shake a stick at!
Trans & Rear End Ratio: 90' 5-speed, 4.10 gears on rx7 lsd
Rear tire size: 205/50/15 Azenis (Little to no traction in 1-3 gears)

4th gear pulls=

2000 - 2psi
2500 - 5psi
3000 - 7psi
3500 - 15psi (usually somewhere around 14-17 depending on boost level settings)
4000 - whatever the boost controller is set at it will be there by now (up to 22psi)
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Old 07-20-2009, 01:02 AM   #111
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Engine: '92 1/6L
Turbo: T3 60 .48 A/R
Manifold: ETD Shorty modified bottom mount
Downpipe Size/Style: 3" Vband with 1.5" merging EWG
Exhaust Size: 3"
Exhaust Components: Magnaflow Muffler
Intercooler Core Size: 22"x8"x2.5"
Intake Manifold: Stock
Headwork: Stock
Engine Management: Adaptronic
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: Tial 38mm MVS EWG 0.9Bar spring (~13PSI)
Trans & Rear End Ratio: 5-speed, 4.1 1.6 Diff :(
Rear tire size: 195-50-15?

3RD Gear Pull

PSI -RPM
1 - 1927
2 - 2113
3 - 2349
4 - 2533
5 - 2718
6 - 2816
7 - 2968
8 - 3029
9 - 3082
10 - 3264
11 - 3356
12 - 3438
13 - 3542

Once EBC is hooked up and tuned I expect to hit boost target by around 3200 RPM.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:01 PM   #112
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Posted this spool info in another thread so thought I'd copy it here.

Engine: 2L FM stroker. 8.8:1CR
Turbo: Custom GT3076R (mix of 3071 and 3076 with larger internal wastegate)
Manifold: End of the line BEGI FM
Downpipe Size/Style: 2.5"
Exhaust Size: 2.5" with FM cat
Intercooler: BEGI Mazdaspeed (with mapped water/meth injection)
Intake Manifold: Stock VICs (operational) with port matching
Headwork: 1mm FM supertech over sized valves, FM valve spring kit and extensive headwork (see details in website link below)
Engine Management: Electromotive TECgt
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: Blitz SBC i-D2 boost controller.

Trans & Rear End Ratio: 5-speed, 4.1 LSD
Rear tire size: 205-45-16's

5th gear pull
120kPa = 2150rpm
140kPa = 2600rpm
160kPa = 3050rpm
180kPa = 3350rpm
After 180kPa boost rises more quickly.

FWIW I preferred the GT2860RS on this motor at my favoured power range of 320 to 340bhp. I'm too much of a wuss to push the current turbo
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:49 PM   #113
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So I did a 4th gear pull on the way home to get a log for the GT2871. Here is what I came up with (see the graph). Not bad for a big turbo, not far behind the GT2560 setup I had before. Plus it was hot outside, like 95 deg F.

Engine: 1.8L 9:1CR
Turbo: GT2871, BEGI ported IWG
Manifold: BEGI S4
Downpipe Size/Style: BEGI SGDP
Exhaust Size: 3" Enthuza with metallic core cat.
Intercooler: CXRacing as a custom v-mount
Intake Manifold: Stock
Headwork: 1mm supertech over sized valves, supertech springs and titanium retainers
Engine Management: Adaptronic
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: Custom hybrid EBC/MBC setup

Trans & Rear End Ratio: 6-speed, 3.63 Torsen
Rear tire size: 225-45-15
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Old 08-09-2009, 12:54 PM   #114
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Engine: '93 1/6L
Turbo: Greddy TD04-15C
Manifold: Greddy Cast manifold
Downpipe Size/Style: Custom 2.5" divorced
Exhaust Size: 2.5" - 3"
Exhaust Components: Magnaflow hi-flow cat & Magnaflow Muffler
Intercooler Core Size: 27x9x3
Intake Manifold: Stock
Headwork: stockage
Engine Management: Megasquirt
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: Water injection, turbo blanky
Trans & Rear End Ratio: 5-speed, 4.1 LSD
Rear tire size: 195's

4th gear pull
RPM KPA PSI
2700 101 .7
2800 104 1.14
2900 132 5.14
3000 143 6.71
3100 149 7.57
3200 158 8.8
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Engine: '97 1.8L
Turbo: Nissan t3 60/48
Manifold: FM Cast manifold
Downpipe Size/Style: Custom 2.5"
Exhaust Size: 2.5" - 3"
Exhaust Components: 3" x 15" resonator in place of cat & Magnaflow Muffler
Intercooler Core Size: 12x11x3
Intake Manifold: Stock
Headwork: Stock
Engine Management: Megasquirt 1v3
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: Tial 35mm wastegate
Trans & Rear End Ratio: 5-speed, 3.9 LSD
Rear tire size: 205 Azeni's

4th gear pull from 2000 rpm (KPA)
2000 105
2300 115
2600 126
2900 142
3100 159
3300 181
3500 184


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Old 09-02-2009, 02:42 PM   #116
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Here's my updated data.

Engine: 01' 1.9L
Turbo: Garrett GT 3076
Manifold: Tubular
Downpipe Size/Style: 3"
Exhaust Size: 3"
Engine Management: Hydra
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: EBC
Trans & Rear End Ratio: 6-speed, 3.6 gears
Rear tire size: 225-50-15's

FIFTH GEAR PULL:

RPM Boost(psi)

2500 1 PSI
2750 2 PSI
3000 3 PSI
3250 4 PSI
3500 5 PSI
3750 8 PSI
4000 13 PSI
4250 18 PSI
4500 23 PSI
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Engine: '92 1.6L
Turbo: T3 60 0.48AR
Manifold: Log
Downpipe Size/Style: 2.5"
Exhaust Size: 2.25" OG FM N/A Duals
Engine Management: Adaptronic
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: EBC/No Intercooler
Trans & Rear End Ratio: 6-speed, 3.6 gears
Rear tire size: 195-50-15's

FIFTH GEAR PULL:
RPM kPa Psi
2000 112 1.75
2250 119 2.76
2500 127 3.92
2750 140 6.10
3000 163 9.14

Last edited by TurboRoach; 10-06-2009 at 01:56 AM. Reason: EBC is actually working now.
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Engine: '92 1.6L
Turbo: T3 Super 60 .48 A/R
Manifold: Custom bottom mount ETD Shorty
Downpipe Size/Style: 3"
Exhaust Size: 3"
Exhaust Components: Magnaflow Muffler
Intercooler Core Size: 18"x12"x3"
Intake Manifold: Stock
Headwork: Stock
Engine Management: Adaptronic
Trans & Rear End Ratio: 5-speed, 4.1 LSD
Rear tire size: 195/45-15?

All values WOT unless noted. Stupid truck almost cut me off on interstate.
5th gear pull
RPM - KPA
2500 - 120
2600 - 123
2700 - 133
2800 - 137
2900 - 146
3000 - 152
3100 - 163 (TPS at 60%)
3200 - 175 (TPS at 83%)
3300 - 186
3400 - 190
3500 - 195
Holds steady after this creeping to 205KPa at redline in all gears.

I have not yet hooked up my EBC Also I will be installing a new motor to run around 20psi, and a new compressor wheel on my T3 that is basically a 48trim 2871R wheel.
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Old 10-10-2009, 04:09 PM   #119
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Hello guys and greetings from germany
here my facts about my spool up!

Engine: '93 1/6L
Turbo: Garrett T3 60
Manifold: selfmade
Downpipe Size/Style: Single tube 2,36"
Exhaust Size: 2,36"
Exhaust Components: metall 100cell catalyst, 2,36" presilencer & 2,36" Magnaflow muffler
Intercooler Core Size: need to check, but its stock subaru wrx sti modell 2006
Intake Manifold: Stock
Headwork: stock
Engine Management: Greddy Emanage Ultimate
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: Fidanza flywheel, HKS EVC VI
Trans & Rear End Ratio: 5-speed, 4.3Diff
Rear tire size: 195/50/15

4th gear spool:

1850 01,30PSI
1950 01,45PSI
2050 02,18PSI
2150 03,05PSI
2250 03,34PSI
2350 03,77PSI
2450 04,64PSI
2550 05,22PSI
2650 05,95PSI
2750 06,67PSI
2850 07,69PSI
2950 08,41PSI
3050 09,28PSI
3150 09,43PSI
3250 09,72PSI
3350 09,86PSI
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7050 09,86PSI



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Engine: unopened stock '90 2.0L FE-dohc
Turbo: Garrett t3/t4 stage 3 AR48, 50 trim AR60
Manifold: SS Autochrome BP top-mount mild stainless steel (modified flange to fit FE)
Downpipe Size/Style: Single tube 3"
Exhaust Size: 3"
Exhaust Components: 300 cel metal cat, 18" louvered glass-pack and Raptor turbo-style muffler (quiet)
Intercooler Core Size: 18"x12"x3" eBay bar/plate
Intake Manifold: Top half 1.6 Miata, Bottom half Kia Sportage
Headwork: none
Engine Management: FM Miatalink 1.6
Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: Incomplete closed loop tune on Link EBC. Stock Mercedes internal wastegate w/helper spring. Still haven't dyno tuned the engine management...soon.
Trans & Rear End Ratio: 5-speed, 4.1 open
Rear tire size: 205/45-15
atmos: 98kpa

FOURTH GEAR PULL:
RPM Boost(psi)
  • 1800 onset
  • 2500 2
  • 3000 4
  • 3550 8
  • 3750 10
  • 4000 12
  • 4200 15
  • 4400 18.7
do you have a build tread of your 2.0L mitata?
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