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The welder next to us made this for the new local skatepark that just opened. I haven't seen it up yet, but it was getting sent for powdercoating after I took this. Supposedly hanging up on the sign for the park.
Attachment 184735 Attachment 184736 Attachment 184737 Attachment 184738 I think I'm going to have him make me a longboard version of this! :bigtu: |
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Designed this inlet adapter, now I have to buy the AN fittings. Yay Sorry for the crappy picture quality... |
why didn't you machine an AN fitting right onto it?
Or step the inlet a hair for a weld-on type AN fitting if you don't have a threading attachment for your lathe? I have a similar adapter for power steering pump to AN. I had it threaded to use a pipe thread adapter, but it works much better and is a lot cleaner in function with the welded on AN adapter. https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2831/...f1592b14_c.jpgPs adapter by HellaFab, on Flickr |
Machine a male AN fitting? It would have significantly add more cost and complexity to the machining, and seeing it's only a one off part I was trying to make it cheap as possible.
I thought of just making a simple adapter (general shape of it) which would accept welded on AN fittings, but I don't have the capability to weld aluminum :( |
Having only female thread exposed on the block isnt the worst thing. On the one hand you have an additional threaded connection which could leak. On the other you're less likely to turn that expensive machined bit into a hunk of scrap by accidentally hitting it putting the engine in or out, or doing something with the coolant line off.
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I've always heard people mention that a lot, but they make AN caps.
In fact, a cap would be better than an open female threaded orifice, other than an upside down blind hole... My oil pan AN fitting is getting welded, for all my opinion is worth :giggle: |
Leafy, this was my train of thought, I wanted to reduce the risk of damaging the threads or any of the sealing surfaces. A -20AN (if I were to machine a male AN fitting to accept the lower radiator hose; assuming I weld a -20AN fitting on the radiator) has a thread of 1-5/8 -12 and the die is roughly ~$140 on mcmaster carr.
I'm also aware of the -AN caps, but that's just added cost Also I didn't even think the female threads near a heat source would not be ideal. Thermal expansion which would cause leaks? Just taking a guess at it. If you could elaborate on that thought, that would be awesome. :) |
Your design is exactly what tapered threads are for. Just use a proper tape or paste on the threads. It's funny to see people go through the effort to weld male AN fittings on things... The last thing I want is a machined surface sticking out that would require engine removal to fix...
Leaks from thermal effects? Look at every single oil sandwich plate with AN adapters if you want to feel better about it. |
Loctite 5770!
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Permatex 59235!
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Originally Posted by leboeuf
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Your design is exactly what tapered threads are for. Just use a proper tape or paste on the threads.
Originally Posted by leboeuf
(Post 1174567)
It's funny to see people go through the effort to weld male AN fittings on things... The last thing I want is a machined surface sticking out that would require engine removal to fix...
1. a tapered thread adapter with what is pictured above will be significantly longer length than a similar one with the final thread type for the fitting; and 2. You only have one point of failure with a one piece adapter 3.The lower water neck is bolted to the water pump directly and is easily accessible with 2 12mm head through bolts. it can come off in less than 15 seconds if your cooling system is dry, with the engine in the engine bay.
Originally Posted by leboeuf
(Post 1174567)
Leaks from thermal effects? Look at every single oil sandwich plate with AN adapters if you want to feel better about it.
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Tapered threads should always have tape or paste on them, it is for lubrication purposes.
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I'll expand on this a bit more when I get the chance, I am currently at work.
There's two variations of tapered threads, the typical NPT and the supercritical NPTF. The regular NPT threads do not seal without the aid of teflon tape or paste. NPTF will seal without any aids. |
I'mma go with leafy on that too.
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NPTF has sharper/larger thread crest and root, physically deforms as you tighten it up. These parts are made to a much tighter tolerance, using them when you don't need a dry seal is silly.
The leakage point from a NPT thread without tape is between the crest and root of the threads, spiraling all the way down. Not a huge leak point, by any means. The flanks of the threads seal, the whole way down. NPT is supposed to be lubed, no matter what anyone says. It doesn't always have to be taped to keep from leaking though. I'd bet most cheap NPT fittings you buy at the hardware store are so out of tolerance they behave more like a NPTF than NPT... |
you fuckers overcomplicate the shit out of everything.....
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Change of subject...
Whipped this out earlier today. Ugly, yes. But it works. Attachment 184624 Attachment 184625 |
All my fabrication is BMW related lately since I'm working on my E46 track car but here's a few things:
Custom dash: https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...622e54a9e39816 Custom console with window switches: https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...b56ffd1f3f6119 Cone filter adapter for intake: https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...f04da9dc162685 Modified seat brackets: https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/...86&oe=54F65C41 |
Originally Posted by Leafy
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Tapered threads should always have tape or paste on them, it is for lubrication purposes.
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Just discovered this thread... LOVE it! I'll try to take some time to read it all the way through tonight.
Not Miata related, but I built bumpers from (mostly) scratch for my '92 Bronco (my other money pit project) this year... Rear: Attachment 184611 Attachment 184612 Attachment 184613 Attachment 184614 Attachment 184615 The driver's side swingout will get gas/water cans, but I need to buy some cans so I can finish the carrier. Front: Attachment 184616 Attachment 184617 Attachment 184618 Attachment 184619 Attachment 184620 Attachment 184621 Attachment 184622 Attachment 184623 |
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