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Old 01-11-2010, 10:35 PM   #221
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I think these fucked up mazdaspeed3/6 issues are due to some fucked up fueling issue. I wonder if any have kablooied due to a fuel pump. Rods don't break at cruise unless fuel goes dead.
I had my high pressure fuel pump replaced under a recall, but you know I've wondered the same thing myself about a lack of fuel.

Honestly, there are SO many bad things about that motor. How its assembled (by design) and subsequently how its built.. Here is an example; The camshafts do not have a slot machined in them for a woodruff key to keep the cam wheels from turning on the cam... What kind of monkey **** is that? Not to mention the direct injection crap. Nothing quite like a ~1500 - 2000psi fuel system. How about the erector-set mounting bracket for the rear differential??


I discovered a new little tidbit the other day. The MS6, at least, MY MS6 is NOT all wheel drive. Thats right, I got my Speed6 stuck in the snow IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET! Front two wheels were throwing snow, alas only the passenger rear wheel would spin! LAAAME!!
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I discovered a new little tidbit the other day. The MS6, at least, MY MS6 is NOT all wheel drive. Thats right, I got my Speed6 stuck in the snow IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET! Front two wheels were throwing snow, alas only the passenger rear wheel would spin! LAAAME!!
AWD is an option.
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and it's a really really really really really really poorly designed AWD system, like the volvo or VW systems.
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From what I heard from a friend that had a MS6 they lean out really bad cruising to keep fuel consumpsion low and then when you go to get into it the fuel doesn't catch up fast enough and poof. Lean, detonate, and broken rods
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This thread delivers. I'd like to see a picture of the Mustang... it's unlikely that it's the same one I raced a while ago in Queen Creek, but that would be funny if it was.
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From what I heard from a friend that had a MS6 they lean out really bad cruising to keep fuel consumpsion low and then when you go to get into it the fuel doesn't catch up fast enough and poof. Lean, detonate, and broken rods
The thing with the new direct injection systems is that you do indeed need much more fuel pressure. In fact the systems are much closer to those found on diesel engines than they are your run of the mill EFI gas application. The thing is, they simply have not yet gotten the HPFPs totaly figured out yet with gasoline the way they have with diesel. Diesels regularly run around at 20K PSI line pressure without an issue. But the lubriscity of gas is very different from that of diesel, which means you have a harder time of it despite only operating at about 1/8 the pressure in most cases. The fact that you also have aditives like MTBE in gasoline also makes it a bit tougher. You see the BMW N54 enignes having the same issues too. They will get it right, and likely in the next 3 model years IMHO.

I did not know about those other details though, that sucks. I was just thinking that a slightly detuned MZR making 250HP in an NC would me a little momster and likely do some real damage to competition like the GTI, Raliart Lancer, WRX, Mustang, Genesis, etc. Its over 1000 LBs lighter than some of those
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I was just thinking that a slightly detuned MZR making 250HP in an NC would me a little momster
LOL, amazing what one little letter on adjoining keys will do to the meaning of a word. And if he fixes it, I'm going on record saying that I did not FTFY.
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This thread delivers. I'd like to see a picture of the Mustang... it's unlikely that it's the same one I raced a while ago in Queen Creek, but that would be funny if it was.
Was it a green convertible W/ tan top, ricer body kit and wing, rollin' on nearly solid 20" wheels? The mexican looks like a glow worm. haha
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and it's a really really really really really really poorly designed AWD system, like the volvo or VW systems.
Don't quote me on this, but I think the transmission is the same between the MS3 and MS6... the 6 just has this POS bolted on to divert power to the rear...
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Was it a green convertible W/ tan top, ricer body kit and wing, rollin' on nearly solid 20" wheels? The mexican looks like a glow worm. haha
Lol, no. I'd remember that. Good work on killing a slow ricer though.

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Don't quote me on this, but I think the transmission is the same between the MS3 and MS6... the 6 just has this POS bolted on to divert power to the rear...
Yeah, pretty much. It only activates after the front wheels slip (meaning it's almost always FWD) and it only sends a little power back... just terribly disapointing to me.
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^Thats not nessesarily bad. DSMs do that more or less, yet they usually have about 50-60 percent of the power going to the rears. It can be a good design, but chances are they just run it with most of the power going to the fronts most of the time. Combine that will no LSDs and you have some fail. It still blows me away how many OEMs use a open diffs in hi-po cars.
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^Thats not nessesarily bad. DSMs do that more or less, yet they usually have about 50-60 percent of the power going to the rears. It can be a good design, but chances are they just run it with most of the power going to the fronts most of the time. Combine that will no LSDs and you have some fail. It still blows me away how many OEMs use a open diffs in hi-po cars.
There's a few problems with this.

I said "It only activates after the front wheels slip (meaning it's almost always FWD)"

So, here's your line... DSMs are almost always FWD more or less, yet they usually have about 50-60 percent of the power going to the rears.

Contradictory.

Also, neither dsm's nor subarus (awd models) run without center LSD of some kind.
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dsm's are 60% rear 40% frt. torque split. except for the galant vr4 (it's 50-50%) what the guy was describing with one of the rears spinning means that the rear diff doesn't have an lsd. most (but not all early models) dsm's have a viscous lsd in the rear. they don't have one up frt. though.
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There's a few problems with this.

I said "It only activates after the front wheels slip (meaning it's almost always FWD)"

So, here's your line... DSMs are almost always FWD more or less, yet they usually have about 50-60 percent of the power going to the rears.

Contradictory.

Also, neither dsm's nor subarus (awd models) run without center LSD of some kind.
AWD DSMs send 50-60 percent of their power to the rear with the setup discussed before.

My own DSM had an LSD for the rear (4 bolt, not a 3 bolt). Not sure about th center diff, I stoped playing with DSMs ovr a year ago.

Sorry for the confusion. It sounds like the MS6 system uses the same layout, yet does not send power to the rears unless slip occurs, which sucks IMHO. The DSM system sends power to the back regardless.
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Most AWD systems are pretty lame. They got it right on the R8 though, and most AWD supercars have 70\30 distribution.
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Diz cat. Quit talkin bout what u aint get close to homie. Bark at a fence homie cuz daz kinda what u doin knowut im sayin. no facts and pointless. We run it in my City without hesitation. If u aint pushin 400 whp then u aint breakin anythn. get that number, break, then talk about breaking parts homie. 1 star.

dat homie wid the mustang i dont even know cuz my boy wouldnt of lost to dat miata.

anyway, im back ARF!! ARF!!!! ARF!!!! where the real homies at up n this beast!? aye about that ebay wrecking crew offer know what im sayin I'l take it then i quit cuz u know what homie i aint do that kinda stuff u noe what i mean? i love my homies on the east side all the way from the west side you dig? From Martin Luther King on monday to Malcolm X on tuesday, and from engine bay to rear sway bars is all love for the streets.

Shout out to Nyce1s.com all the way from the West Side. Check out SDyce1s on youtube a new upcoming youtube channel hoping to one day run in parallel wid the caliber of Nyce1s but diz gonna be West Coast Cali heads reppin their rides, SD, LA and surrounding area, their dyno tunes, runnin at the track for money, in the game, the gamble know what im saying. roll the dyce cuz daz how u gotta do it wid life sometimes but all to keep the streets clean baby ! SDyce1s check it out we gonna do it big cuz iz about time we did it big. Tell u diz much, i dont know how we gonna do it but we gonna do it. West Coast Cali style
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Diz cat. Quit talkin bout what u aint get close to homie. Bark at a fence homie cuz daz kinda what u doin knowut im sayin. no facts and pointless. We run it in my City without hesitation. If u aint pushin 400 whp then u aint breakin anythn. get that number, break, then talk about breaking parts homie. 1 star.

dat homie wid the mustang i dont even know cuz my boy wouldnt of lost to dat miata.

anyway, im back ARF!! ARF!!!! ARF!!!! where the real homies at up n this beast!? aye about that ebay wrecking crew offer know what im sayin I'l take it then i quit cuz u know what homie i aint do that kinda stuff u noe what i mean? i love my homies on the east side all the way from the west side you dig? From Martin Luther King on monday to Malcolm X on tuesday, and from engine bay to rear sway bars is all love for the streets.

Shout out to Nyce1s.com all the way from the West Side. Check out SDyce1s on youtube a new upcoming youtube channel hoping to one day run in parallel wid the caliber of Nyce1s but diz gonna be West Coast Cali heads reppin their rides, SD, LA and surrounding area, their dyno tunes, runnin at the track for money, in the game, the gamble know what im saying. roll the dyce cuz daz how u gotta do it wid life sometimes but all to keep the streets clean baby ! SDyce1s check it out we gonna do it big cuz iz about time we did it big. Tell u diz much, i dont know how we gonna do it but we gonna do it. West Coast Cali style
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Diz cat. Quit talkin bout what u aint get close to homie. Bark at a fence homie cuz daz kinda what u doin knowut im sayin. no facts and pointless. We run it in my City without hesitation. If u aint pushin 400 whp then u aint breakin anythn. get that number, break, then talk about breaking parts homie. 1 star.

dat homie wid the mustang i dont even know cuz my boy wouldnt of lost to dat miata.

anyway, im back ARF!! ARF!!!! ARF!!!! where the real homies at up n this beast!? aye about that ebay wrecking crew offer know what im sayin I'l take it then i quit cuz u know what homie i aint do that kinda stuff u noe what i mean? i love my homies on the east side all the way from the west side you dig? From Martin Luther King on monday to Malcolm X on tuesday, and from engine bay to rear sway bars is all love for the streets.

Shout out to Nyce1s.com all the way from the West Side. Check out SDyce1s on youtube a new upcoming youtube channel hoping to one day run in parallel wid the caliber of Nyce1s but diz gonna be West Coast Cali heads reppin their rides, SD, LA and surrounding area, their dyno tunes, runnin at the track for money, in the game, the gamble know what im saying. roll the dyce cuz daz how u gotta do it wid life sometimes but all to keep the streets clean baby ! SDyce1s check it out we gonna do it big cuz iz about time we did it big. Tell u diz much, i dont know how we gonna do it but we gonna do it. West Coast Cali style
Is English your first language? WTF are schools teaching kids nowadays?
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I think Nito has run his amusing course. It's now time for someone to bring out the banstick.
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why u guyz b hatin man where is the love in all u all? Tell u wat, u caught me on my good side 2day, an where the stars try, the cars fly u no what i mean? so ya i tell u dat mustang got gang banged and where bangin gets acein, they start bailing. Hopefully there were no hard feelings or hatin because when u hatin you not lovin and when u not lovin u ragin and when u ragin, u like satan. He better make sure he don run into us, the DEK crew, represent!, cuz my boys are the best of the best and the there is no game left in the streets, n he better make sure he set for bettin, cuz im bettin you he be frettin and sweatin about what he gon be regretting gettin into. Da creme of da crop is here to give a shout out to da haters and disbelievers, cuz believe me, our homies cabbage is dope.

also, ytube madnessmaker, cuz dat homie is all up in the biz when it comes to production stock, an let me tell u, it is for real. My crew is in caliber wit dem, and when we meet up east coast in the Big Park on Sundays, you better believe it nobody stops us. Bruiser wit the twin turbo viper is layin down rubber where you dont think rubber could be laid. Said sky makes the roof rock through the house, an when that goes down, the gang iz packing up an heading out. Nick eliminator7 wit da 50trim tears up the street like no other. No competition, it is always on like donkey kong. But believe me, i got lotsa love for the Cali crew too. NESW, itz all good. cuz where there is homies, there is love. but not the humpin kinda lovin, the big bro cuzzes with the drew P style beats. Lemme tell you, there aint no time like the good times, cuz the good times b rollin when ur in the hood.

Big shout out to user Nito here - dat homeboy is down with the days. respect!!
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