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Old 02-03-2009, 10:43 PM   #121
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On mine I have it set based on RPM open at 3000 close at 5000. It doesn't really hurt anything to have it open at wide open throttle unless you have a turbo and your EGR is before the turbine. The exhaust gasses only flow when there is a pressure differential ofcourse, so part throttle conditions generating 4-5psi of differential between the intake manifold and the exhaust manifold create good flow. At wide open throttle at most I would say maybe a psi or 2 if you have a restrictive exhaust in an N/A application.

You should be able to add a TPS stipulation too. At wot EGR closes, but I never went that far.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:31 PM   #122
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I have uploaded the base map files in the adaptronic forum if anyone is interested!

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t31330/
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Travis I noticed you said that the Adaptronic doesn't do sequential ignition, but when I was going through the manual I found this,
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In a cycle of four, as in direct fire ignition on a four cylinder, or wasted spark on an eight cylinder engine, (ign 3 set to ign 3) and aux 1 set to ign 4.
, on page 19.

Can you verify that this feature is implemented? Also, which knock sensor are you using?

Either way after reading through this thread and trying out the software for the AEM, Hydra, and Adaptronic, I think I'm sold on it. I'll send you a message through your website.
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Old 02-13-2009, 07:31 PM   #124
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Interesting find. Bear in mind that ign3 is used to run the tach output and you may or may not have an extra PWM output to assign for ign4. If you can get around both issues, not sure how beneficial seq ignition would actually be, other than cool in a geeky kind of way.
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Isn't there a way to derive a tach signal from the triggers? That would free up a PWM output.

I looked at a config file for the 1.6 and the only pwm used was for the idle control, so I should be ok.

The geek cred is the most important part though.
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Old 02-13-2009, 09:33 PM   #126
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Turbo Roach,

I know they did implement it because the adaptronic is now being used on some V8's in wasted spark. The big problem would be that I wouldn't have a plug and play harness for that. The new ignition system I've got comming out with supplies a tach signal. You'd have to use that or something like it that generates a signal to run full sequential.

We are officially at a 2 count if you come on board. 18PSI, and Stein both ordered ahead of time. They didn't want to wait!
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Old 02-14-2009, 12:29 AM   #127
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I have installed mine, downloaded the base map and fired it today. I started the car on the stock ECU first. It idled fine. I then switched over to the Adaptronic. It wouldn't stay running, but it did fire and run for a second each time. From the manual, it appears that it is a fuel issue. Travis, I'll call you tomorrow when I'm in the shop and we can talk through it.
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Ok sounds good!
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if it starts and fires but slowly dies out, it's lean.

john, you have a wideband?
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Stein and I both have the aem uego. Im also very interested in the start then die issue. When you guys work it out make sure to post about it here in case I go through the same problems. Hey travis when is mine going to ship? I am ready for it lol
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Its just a fuel issue, I'll get him squared away today. Once he has got the idle fuel map nailed down I'll see if I can get that map from him, and you won't have to mess with fixing that problem. You should have your unit by Thursday Vlad!
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Sweet. I'm super interested in this since both of you guys have BP4Ws like me.
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Travis I noticed you said that the Adaptronic doesn't do sequential ignition, but when I was going through the manual I found this,, on page 19.

Can you verify that this feature is implemented? Also, which knock sensor are you using?

Either way after reading through this thread and trying out the software for the AEM, Hydra, and Adaptronic, I think I'm sold on it. I'll send you a message through your website.
bear in mind that sequential ignition would not work with the stock setup anyway, but it could be done with a second coilpack or coil on plug.
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God I want monies so I can be a part of this train.
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Sweet. I'm super interested in this since both of you guys have BP4Ws like me.
We got it most of the way worked out today! There is no doubt we should be able to have a map that works on stock injectors 100%, and is scalable to any other injector by mid week. He's idling but the AFR's were a little all over the place. None the less even idling at 11:1 it was rock solid at 1000 RPMs The closed loop idle control is very good on these systems.

Is there anyone else who needs to be on this group buy list? I have deliverator and turboRoach. If you guys haven't picked up on it yet the 99-00 are PNP. No problems! 3 more people in and the price drops!
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bear in mind that sequential ignition would not work with the stock setup anyway, but it could be done with a second coilpack or coil on plug.
I understand. I was just pointing out that it could do it, because that was listed as one of the things the Hydra could do and the Adaptronic couldn't.
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Is there anyone else who needs to be on this group buy list? I have deliverator and turboRoach. If you guys haven't picked up on it yet the 99-00are PNP. No problems! 3 more people in and the price drops!
If all works out, add me to the list. It'd be nice to see one working with larger injectors. What were the idling issues with Steins?
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If all works out, add me to the list. It'd be nice to see one working with larger injectors. What were the idling issues with Steins?
Running large injectors is nothing for a standalone. Don't sweat that.

Stein's idle issues aren't going to be much more than getting some parameters coarse tuned in.

We haven't seen any obstacles yet really.
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If all works out, add me to the list. It'd be nice to see one working with larger injectors. What were the idling issues with Steins?
He only had about 45 mins to work on it. I was also on the phone, if I would of been there in person we might of gotten it all fixed in that amount of time and ready to take out of nuetral. Really getting a car running with someone who doesn't have experience with the adaptronic, and the basemap being off in 45 mins is not that bad at all.

From what I can see you should be able to idle massive 1600cc's just fine. The resolution specifiable is 0.000ms +/-.001ms.

Also I don't know if I mentioned this or not, but the NB's and the NBB's should have plug and play launch control with what you get in this group buy. Nothing else necessary. Talk about shaving time off at the strip. That is the way to do it.

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