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DNMakinson 10-14-2014 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Reverant (Post 1175255)
You can add a couple of low power outputs by connecting a couple of wires from the MS3 daughterboard to the DB37 connector. Email me for more info.

Red is 12V, black is ground, correct.

I will, thanks. I will also need some direction on how to ID the I/O's and the parameters I am looking for, as TS does not seem to correlate all parameters, e.g. I know there is a knock annunciator on TS, but how do I map it to the I/O. I will detail the questions in the email.

Love me some MS3Basic

k24madness 10-15-2014 12:52 AM

My MS Basis is on the way from Reverent. I am impressed with his level of service and attention to detail for the base tune. The digital wideband option is a nice addition! Amazing level of control and options in such a tidy cost effect package.

Thanks Dimitris!

timgsxr 05-03-2015 07:04 AM

Just wondering if anyone knows how to feed an aftermarket water temp gauge from a basic ms3, I have a stack gauge I want to use but assume the feed it requires is different to that of that stock gauge so thinking I could feed it something from the MS?

EO2K 05-03-2015 12:59 PM

I would imagine you could use one of the spare analog inputs, provided its 0-5v

Schuyler 05-03-2015 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1228358)
I would imagine you could use one of the spare analog inputs, provided its 0-5v

He wants to power the gauge. The answer is to just run another sensor.

timgsxr 05-03-2015 07:31 PM

Yes just seems intercepting the stock sensor would be neater.

Erat 07-21-2015 10:45 AM

What does it take to get AC working with the MS3 basic?
Also I read it somewhere but now I can't find it, what do I jump over for a tach signal with MS3 basic?

Reverant 07-21-2015 04:46 PM

The A/C works out of the box on all Basic MS3s.

I need to look up your ECU to answer your second question, as I've been strapped down for the last couple of days with a bad back. PM me in a couple of days.

Erat 07-21-2015 04:56 PM

Hmm... AC button doesn't even turn on the second fan. Maybe i need to do more digging into why it's not working. May be bad fuse or relay.

I'll PM you this weekend. Thank you.

mzmanny 07-27-2015 04:38 PM

Reverant your inbox is full at m.net

My question is how does the wiring differ if you were to run the MS3 parallel with the stock ECU. I'm assuming the stock harness needs to stay plugged into the stock ECU. What gets plugged into the MS3?

Reverant 07-27-2015 04:45 PM

The Basic MS3 is not designed to run in parallel, and my recommendation is that you don't do it.

Alternative 08-06-2015 09:18 AM

How are NB guys mounting the MS3 Basic? The zip tie approach doesn't seem like a reasonable expectation, and doesn't allow the DB37 connector to be used.

Rev doesn't seem to be answering PM's at this time.

The only viable answer I can find is to make an extension harness ad put it on the passenger side. Doesn't this defeat the purpose of having a plug and play system if you need an external harness? Doesn't the first line in the MS3 Basic description state no cutting or splicing?

bahurd 08-06-2015 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Alternative (Post 1254751)
How are NB guys mounting the MS3 Basic? The zip tie approach doesn't seem like a reasonable expectation, and doesn't allow the DB37 connector to be used.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Rev doesn't seem to be answering PM's at this time.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The only viable answer I can find is to make an extension harness ad put it on the passenger side. Doesn't this defeat the purpose of having a plug and play system if you need an external harness? Doesn't the first line in the MS3 Basic description state no cutting or splicing?

</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Zipties work or some hack up the old stock bracket to support the firewall end.&nbsp; Or some of us have moved on to a fabbed bracket from here; Singular Motorsports Miata ECU Bracket for '99+ for Miata 1999-2005</p><p><img src="http://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.miataturbo.net-vbulletin/1632x1224/80-sms99ecubracket_b1c78bc3a8df45000ad09f237a14067037 055cf0.jpg" title="" /><br /><br />&nbsp;</p><p>Disclosure: I have an MS2 but the MS3 uses the same bracket.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

Alternative 08-06-2015 10:50 AM

That looks like a great option, does it allow access to the DB37?

TheCowGod 08-06-2015 10:54 AM

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That bracket looks nice, though I don't remember my MS3 having any mounting holes. Zipties worked fine for me in my '99, and I was able to leave the DB37 connected, without even needing to get a right-angle connector as I'd read I might have to.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1438872847

bahurd 08-06-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCowGod (Post 1254775)
That bracket looks nice, though I don't remember my MS3 having any mounting holes. Zipties worked fine for me in my '99, and I was able to leave the DB37 connected, without even needing to get a right-angle connector as I'd read I might have to.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://photos.binrock.net/2014/Turbocharging-the-99-Miata/i-G9Vk5KQ/A" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="https://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=146322&amp;dateline=14 38872847" /></a>

</p><p>When you order the bracket you specify using an ecu from MSLabs and they'll include the small &quot;L&quot; brackets to mount the MS2 or MS3.&nbsp; They use the end screw holes of the ecu housing.&nbsp; I have no issues getting to the connectors but haven't had the need once it's in.&nbsp; I used zip ties for over a year with no problems as well...</p><p>With the bracket, it's easier to just drop the unit with the ecu on it if you need to pull the connector. IMO...</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

TheCowGod 08-06-2015 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1254784)
<p>&nbsp;</p><p></p><p>When you order the bracket you specify using an ecu from MSLabs and they'll include the small &quot;L&quot; brackets to mount the MS2 or MS3.&nbsp; They use the end screw holes of the ecu housing.&nbsp; I have no issues getting to the connectors but haven't had the need once it's in.&nbsp; I used zip ties for over a year with no problems as well...</p><p>With the bracket, it's easier to just drop the unit with the ecu on it if you need to pull the connector. IMO...</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

Ah, nice. I've since sold my Miata, but I'm glad there's a proper bracket available now. Zip ties may have worked OK, but I certainly wished I could have mounted my $1000 ECU in a more professional-looking way. Glad that's an option for people now.

shuiend 08-06-2015 11:11 AM

My bracket comes in tomorrow. I am hoping it works well for my MS3x.

bahurd 08-06-2015 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1254789)
My bracket comes in tomorrow. I am hoping it works well for my MS3x.

</p><p>In for SWAG...&nbsp; Shocked you didn't have it yet. <img alt="Giggle" src="https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/gay.gif" style="height:21px; width:15px" title="Giggle" /></p>

DNMakinson 08-06-2015 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCowGod (Post 1254775)
That bracket looks nice, though I don't remember my MS3 having any mounting holes. Zipties worked fine for me in my '99, and I was able to leave the DB37 connected, without even needing to get a right-angle connector as I'd read I might have to.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://photos.binrock.net/2014/Turbocharging-the-99-Miata/i-G9Vk5KQ/A" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="https://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=146322&amp;dateline=14 38872847" /></a>

</p><p>From the Singular website:&nbsp; &quot;For those with REVERENT-built ECUs, a small pair of adapter tabs are necessary to fit the ECU to this bracket. Write in the notes during checkout that you need these and we'll include them.&quot;</p><p>I presently have zip ties, but plan to find a way to use the stock backets mounted to the MS3. I think @18psi did this. Maybe he can post info on how he did it.</p>


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