I'm loving my TSE kit that I've been on for a few months now. You guys don't know what you're missing.

Thanks Andrew!!!

tehehehe.

So they finally designed a turbo kit that produces negative manifold pressure?

right on

Our current goal is a manifold/turbo/downpipe package by the end of the year, and full kits in Jan/Feb 2013.

Thanks.

:facepalm: i want to give you monies pleeeaaaaseee, the wait is horrible

Any updates Sav?

People please stop asking for updates, when there is anything new Savington will post about it.

So there's updates? :rofl:

You still willing to make that offer? I am about to start with the banning and I could always use additional dollars in my pocket.

In for the release date when the newb asking for updates every week doesnt buy the kit.

I'll post when I have an update. We're making progress.

How is it progressing?

Yes. This keeps happening when I am travelling and offline. I will send you a PM to discuss my entry in to political graft.

Slowly.

Jack is going to be furious, lol.

I got a PM from Scrappy Jack a few days ago.

Prodding on verbose progress updates, fancy pics etc as we appear to be close to the jan/feb delivery goal.

I should have the first couple of pre-production manifolds in my hands next week. We will need to put some test miles on them before I start officially taking orders, but that should be done by February.

The initial package will be the manifold, turbo, downpipe, and likely a turbo crane. We will probably not offer the manifold/downpipe without a turbo, and pricing will be released when we're ready to take money for them. The standard turbo will be the 6258, which is good to ~325whp, and the option turbo will be the 6758 which will stretch to 400whp.

Sorry for not reading all 10 pages, but my studs just came loose AGAIN so it's now fubar.
Will the downpipe match up to the OEM cat location? Pre or post cat? what diam?

Also, realistically, you could be shipping production quality in March?

Downpipe is 3" from the turbo back. It will not bolt up to a factory exhaust, but it will (probably) end in the same location so if you have a 3" turbo catpipe and exhaust that ends in the OEM location already, it will bolt up.

Forgot to mention - Inconel hardware and stage 8s will be standard on every kit we sell.

Great news, thanks for the update. Are we still looking at ~$4000 ballpark for the initial package (I see you said pricing will be released, just looking for generalization) with water & oil lines / fittings?

It sounds like the manifold & downpipe will work with either turbo such that we can upgrade later without changing those parts?

The initial release will be more of a DIY starter package for folks who simply cannot wait for us to release a full kit. The starter setup will be sub-$3k, likely well under that. I will get an oil/water line kit out ASAP, but I can help people piece those parts together themselves if they don't want to wait. The full kit with intercooler will come to market in Q2 and we will offer an "upgrade" package for folks that bought a DIY setup and didn't end up doing their own intercooler setup.

Yep, no need to change anything except the turbocharger itself. In addition to the 400whp-capable EFR6758, there's also a possibility of a T25-framed EFR7163, which would give us a ~500whp turbo option in the same footprint as the standard 6258 setup. IF we see that turbo, it would be a late 2013 release. :party:

Sub'd for updates. Really interested in seeing this kits results!

Checking for updates after a couple of months. How goes project badass?

Is AF building the manifolds? I've been curious about the design you went with.

They're ready, start calling TSE repeatedly and leave voicemails. Whoever leaves the most voicemails gets a 10% discount.

Try Andrew's Cell instead... late at night or early in the morning before he gets busy milking unicorns to build his gear. :giggle:

:rofl:

The cost of doing a tubular manifold the way Iwant it done is cost prohibitive, so I'm exploring some other options. I'll post more about it when I have some renderings/pictures to share. The good news is that the delay allows me to roll the rest of the kit out with the manifolds, so there won't be any delay if you want to buy a full kit from me later in the year.

I think I'm winning at that contest. Hopefully I wont have to call as often after monday. :yippee:

No.

Had to Sub again :/
I can't wait to get my hands on the hardware.

I'm getting my internals together right now in prep to rebuild my motor. [Rods, pistons, acl bearings, walboro255, superdamper, flywheel, full ARP and what not; you know the typical set up]
Shouldn't be to long after that I get this ERF hardware to slap on there too to get ride of this pathetic MSM turbo.

Sav, do you happen to have boost figures for those horsepower levels? I'm just interested what boost levels your kits are running.

Will you be offering any sort of package deal on forged internals if bought with a turbo kit?

Thanks,

JimJ

man boost, 20+ psi

Well, I'm out :sadwavey:

:giggle:

I'm sure you could run like 10psi and not explode your vagina stock motor

probably more like 5 lol

didn't 99nb or whatever blow his at 9psi

I dunno but its way too easy to hit 20+ psi on an efr.
The low-boost wastegate is like 6psi

Standard kits will ship with a boost level that's safe for a stock longblock.

It was around 10.5PSI when it vented.

0psi!

(I kid)

One example of a blown motor on a 6258 at 10psi does not mean that stock engines aren't safe when fed by a 6258. Our kits will make power/boost levels that are appropriate for long-term use with a stock engine - we expect that to be between 8 and 11psi depending on the base compression and supporting mods.

Are you ceramic coating anything?
All EFRs from Full-Race now have ceramic coated housings. Are you doing anything similar?

I'm thinking of coating my setup.

Oh yeah I wasn't (actually/seriously) saying built is mandatory.....

...but as we all know, its pretty darn close to it.

So it's the 6758 a better pick for 18-20+psi or is the 6258 better with the faster spool?

They both can run 18-20+ psi just fine. What power numbers are you looking for? PSI is just a measure of restriction, it tells you nothing about performance.

I have yet to see a ceramic coating that will hold up to my satisfaction.

I've seen FR's coatings and I wasn't impressed. I've never understood why a shop would coat the flange faces, and coating the wastegate flapper arm is just kludgy.

It's investment-cast stainless steel (or at least it will be again at some point soon) - I see absolutely no reason to incur the additional cost. If you want to add it, you're welcome to, but it won't be something that we offer.

I think FR uses ceramic paint, at least thats what it looks like. It doesnt look like a true ceramic, its not thick enough and they only rate it to 2000*F.

Ofcourse, I'm wanting in the 350+ range. I don't want to put my 6 speed threw to much strain to where it blows when I want to use my horses and torques slinging about corners.

which as I've seen in earlier post that the smaller well also run 20psi easy and good for 325hp.
So I want sure if I should just go for the next bigger and sacrifice some spool time. which shouldn't be much with the amazing EFR's correct?

Same here.

I heard about this...any idea why they aren't the pretty investement cast stainless at the moment? Another supplier problem?

Of the "few" tial investement cast stainless turbines I've sold, I've sent back a "few" for quality issues. They were nice enough to send me some Tshirts and hats for my troubles. Suppler problems aren't fun.

Complexity issues with the twinscroll IWG housings, apparently. From what I was told at PRI in November, the cast housings aren't a permanent solution, and the investment cast stuff will be back at some point.

Savington, sorry if this is a dumb question but are you saying your exhaust manifolds will be investment cast stainless? I thought they were welded tubular manifolds?

Jim J

I was referring to the EFR turbine housings. We have not made a final decision on the material/construction of our manifolds.

i noticed in earlier posts in this thread that you might look into emission compliance with this kit. Is there any truth to that? will you attempt to keep EGR functionality?

It's not on our radar right now.

Cast Inconel.

I wonder how Duke Nukem:Project Turbo is coming along.

Probably the same as Starcraft III: The Rebellion of Turbo

You mean in 60 days?

Forgive me for not sticking to a self-imposed design deadline in order to make significant functional improvements and reduce the overall cost of the product. I'm working as quickly as I can, but I'm not going to release something I'm not happy with.