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18psi 12-27-2013 10:21 AM

TSE the new BEGi? Better call Steph I mean Sav

Fireindc 12-27-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1086041)
Depends on how much you retarded your bipes acu

Is that even a question? ALLOFIT.

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Impuls 12-27-2013 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 1086218)
I'm going to wait and install mine after I get the TSE direct injection conversion kit.

BRAH, CARBURETOR4LYFE

codrus 12-27-2013 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1086236)
So, i still haven't gotten my kit, and it's clearly 2 days after Christmas. Just sayin'.

Probably FedEx's fault.

--Ian

sixshooter 12-27-2013 03:35 PM

LOL, I didn't mean 3 or 4 thousand rpm was the width of the powerband, but rather it starts at 3000 rpm and runs out of breath at 4000 rpm.

I got my kit yesterday. Well, I say I got it but it wasn't complete. It was missing a few backordered items. But I did get a really nice IOU.

concealer404 12-27-2013 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by codrus (Post 1086296)
Probably FedEx's fault.

--Ian


Well i paid for insurance, so that's good. Hopefully Traksped can make it right.

Leafy 12-27-2013 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1086358)
Well i paid for insurance, so that's good. Hopefully Traksped can make it right.

Refund now or wait 6 years for the next batch to get made.

18psi 12-27-2013 03:56 PM

You can at least spell the name right, its Truckspud

EO2K 12-27-2013 04:31 PM

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18psi 12-27-2013 04:35 PM

:bowrofl:

sixshooter 12-27-2013 09:58 PM

Lol

Braineack 04-01-2014 09:12 AM

Just received my kit today. Shuiend is coming up this weekend to bring me parts to get ruunning and help me wrench on it!!!!!

vteckiller2000 04-01-2014 09:31 AM

Nice! The damn DHL tracking number says mine won't show up until Thursday!

I can't wait to have super spooling TSE goodness!

18psi 04-01-2014 11:16 AM

did you guys opt for the double internal wastegate or triple?

I'm not sure if I should splurge on the triple

krissetsfire 04-01-2014 11:17 AM

Yes!! TSE TURBO TIME! I can't wait. I don't see it on the site yet. Must be filling pre-orders first.

Dot3 04-01-2014 11:23 AM

Weld closed the wastegate? Run allofit?

TurboTim 04-01-2014 12:27 PM

I don't see the churbo option on your website :(

I don't understand why it costs so much. You should offer a lower cost option.

Package deal with XXR's?

Fireindc 04-01-2014 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 1117059)
I don't see the churbo option on your website :(

I don't understand why it costs so much. You should offer a lower cost option.

Package deal with XXR's?

Also in for the XXR/churbo/raceland package. Group buy?

Leafy 04-01-2014 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 1117082)
Also in for the XXR/churbo/raceland package. Group buy?

XXR/churbo/raceland/itb package is call the club roadster special.

Midtenn 04-01-2014 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1117084)
XXR/churbo/raceland/itb package is call the club roadster special.

Comes with lube for those late night "tuning" sessions with friends.

18psi 04-01-2014 02:04 PM

:laugh:

I want the ebay manifold option too

pdexta 04-01-2014 04:16 PM

I'm having my manifold cross drilled and slotted for optimal cooling and performance.

Fireindc 04-01-2014 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by pdexta (Post 1117225)
I'm having my manifold cross drilled and slotted for optimal cooling and performance.

Yeah, that's one of the features of the ebay manifolds. good idea!

18psi 04-01-2014 04:39 PM

I'm gonna inject fuel into my exhaust manifold to cool the EGT's

e-cool, but cooler

NiklasFalk 04-01-2014 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1117233)
I'm gonna inject fuel into my exhaust manifold to cool the EGT's

e-cool, but cooler

A wet Shot of NOS would be even cooler :party:

Sparetire 04-02-2014 04:22 PM

How much power can I make with this kit on stock internals? I assume my powercard is compatible with it for tuning? This looks pretty aggressive too, is it going to make any dangerous jumps in TQ at 2750 RPM? I only ask because I plan to do autoX with this at first.

Efini~FC3S 04-02-2014 04:28 PM

Remember when this thread started, and the kit was supposed to come out in "a couple months"

Two

years

ago

Dang, time flies

Savington 04-02-2014 04:30 PM

Are you planning on buying one, Luke?

Efini~FC3S 04-02-2014 04:53 PM

Just as soon as it's ready, I will happily buy one.

Minus the turbo since I already have it.

and minus the fueling/electronics since I already have those too.

Serious as a heart attack

bikersam717 04-02-2014 05:28 PM

Ebay manifold should be standard, with an option to upgrade to the TSE mani.

kenzo42 04-02-2014 05:43 PM

I knew Brain couldn't give up on his turbro miata. It gives me much joy to read this.

EO2K 04-02-2014 05:56 PM

Andrew: Have the newer 6258/6758 v-band options changed anything or are you still planning on sticking with the T25 inlet?

Savington 04-02-2014 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1117730)
Andrew: Have the newer 6258/6758 v-band options changed anything or are you still planning on sticking with the T25 inlet?

No 6258 v-band AFAIK. TiAL's EWG version doesn't count. 6758's Vband will be large A/R which is also undesirable. We're sticking with the T25 inlet. 6758 will be offered in the same 0.64a/r T25 footprint, with the 7163 coming in a large a/r T25 footprint, so you'll get everything from 225whp to 500whp with the exact same manifold/downpipe.

soviet 04-03-2014 05:04 PM

I really hope there are people out there motivated enough to build a 500 whp miata. The 7163 will hit that easily.

I'd do it if I had $2500 or whatever it is to buy a 7163 - but I don't :loser:

concealer404 04-03-2014 05:06 PM

Think about it... it's only $2500 - whatever you get out of your 6758. Not too bad.

Impuls 04-03-2014 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 1118076)
I really hope there are people out there motivated enough to build a 500 whp miata. The 7163 will hit that easily.

I'd do it if I had $2500 or whatever it is to buy a 7163 - but I don't :loser:

I'd do it.

Ryan_G 04-03-2014 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 1118076)
I really hope there are people out there motivated enough to build a 500 whp miata. The 7163 will hit that easily.

I'd do it if I had $2500 or whatever it is to buy a 7163 - but I don't :loser:

Working on it!

soviet 04-03-2014 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Ryan_G (Post 1118086)
Working on it!

1300cc injector dynamics injectors or bust

Savington 04-03-2014 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by soviet (Post 1118076)
I really hope there are people out there motivated enough to build a 500 whp miata. The 7163 will hit that easily.

I'd do it if I had $2500 or whatever it is to buy a 7163 - but I don't :loser:

Only worth it for those with questionable judgement. ;) I think we'll sell a few 6758 setups to people with built motors who are willing to trade a small spool loss for a ~400whp capable turbo. I suspect that will be enough for almost everyone, but if you really want to see what a 500whp Miata feels like, the 7163 will drop into the same place as the 6758 does.

I have good reasons for stretching the R&D timeline. The manifold has changed substantially from when this thread was started, so naturally the time to market has changed as well. The manifold we release at the end of the day will be an excellent all-round part for everything from smog-legal 225whp 6258 setups all the way up to built motor flex-fuel setups.

I spent a few days last week at AEM in Hawthorne getting some hands-on time with their new Infinity EMS. The high-end EMS setup we'll release for the full kit may or may not have real motorsport-level traction control. :party:

Leafy 04-03-2014 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1118092)
Only worth it for those with questionable judgement. ;) I think we'll sell a few 6758 setups to people with built motors who are willing to trade a small spool loss for a ~400whp capable turbo. I suspect that will be enough for almost everyone, but if you really want to see what a 500whp Miata feels like, the 7163 will drop into the same place as the 6758 does.

I have good reasons for stretching the R&D timeline. The manifold has changed substantially from when this thread was started, so naturally the time to market has changed as well. The manifold we release at the end of the day will be an excellent all-round part for everything from smog-legal 225whp 6258 setups all the way up to built motor flex-fuel setups.

I spent a few days last week at AEM in Hawthorne getting some hands-on time with their new Infinity EMS. The high-end EMS setup we'll release for the full kit may or may not have real motorsport-level traction control. :party:

Real like racelogic level of goodness?

<-Twice bitten thrice shy by the AEM paper vs reality effect.

Savington 04-03-2014 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1118093)
Real like racelogic level of goodness?

<-Twice bitten thrice shy by the AEM paper vs reality effect.

I quizzed them pretty hard on exactly how their TC works vs. RL's system. The only thing AEM is missing (right now) is the ability to allow more slip in a straight line vs. mid-corner. The AEM does things that the RL box won't do, like allow more slip in lower gears. I don't know if the RL box allows for different tooth counts front/rear (i.e. MR2 front hubs, OEM rear hubs), but the AEM allows this.

I have an RL system and my Infinity box is on order, so I'll test both. If the AEM TC doesn't stack up, the RL stays, but I'm not expecting to keep the RL...

Chilicharger665 04-03-2014 09:47 PM

You are going to adapt the Infinity ECU for Miatas?? I was waiting for the lower cylinder versions to come out for decent prices and now they are. $1500. I am very interested in that.

Savington 04-03-2014 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by Chilicharger665 (Post 1118134)
You are going to adapt the Infinity ECU for Miatas?? I was waiting for the lower cylinder versions to come out for decent prices and now they are. $1500. I am very interested in that.

That's the plan, yes. Our PnP versions should come in just under $2k all-inclusive.

Chilicharger665 04-03-2014 10:08 PM

I have been waiting since you announced this. I had 7k sitting in an account for six months after you first said "soon." I got frustrated and bought a house. I will have zero debt by the end of the summer and ready for all of this. Do not disappoint me again. ;)

Leafy 04-03-2014 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1118104)
I quizzed them pretty hard on exactly how their TC works vs. RL's system. The only thing AEM is missing (right now) is the ability to allow more slip in a straight line vs. mid-corner. The AEM does things that the RL box won't do, like allow more slip in lower gears. I don't know if the RL box allows for different tooth counts front/rear (i.e. MR2 front hubs, OEM rear hubs), but the AEM allows this.

I have an RL system and my Infinity box is on order, so I'll test both. If the AEM TC doesn't stack up, the RL stays, but I'm not expecting to keep the RL...

:rly: Sounds like there might be a racelogic already wired for a vvt engined NA miata coming out to the used market.

shuiend 04-04-2014 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1118092)
I have good reasons for stretching the R&D timeline. The manifold has changed substantially from when this thread was started, so naturally the time to market has changed as well. The manifold we release at the end of the day will be an excellent all-round part for everything from smog-legal 225whp 6258 setups all the way up to built motor flex-fuel setups.

So are you going to go for carb approval on your kit? If you get that, it will put your kit above several competitors.

vtjballeng 04-04-2014 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1118092)
I have good reasons for stretching the R&D timeline. The manifold has changed substantially from when this thread was started, so naturally the time to market has changed as well. The manifold we release at the end of the day will be an excellent all-round part for everything from smog-legal 225whp 6258 setups all the way up to built motor flex-fuel setups.

I spent a few days last week at AEM in Hawthorne getting some hands-on time with their new Infinity EMS. The high-end EMS setup we'll release for the full kit may or may not have real motorsport-level traction control. :party:


Sounds awesome! Also sounds like a little feature creep at the same time. The question when still looms large.

For 2014 I just went to a BNR turbo to drop in the same location as an intermediary while waiting. Engine build 2014 off-season and hopefully product will be ready and sorted for 2015 season at this point. Or at least my plans are hopeful for this scenario.

Navic 04-05-2014 06:08 PM

OMG PLZ BE CARB LEGAL AND THEN TAKE MY MONEIES!!!!!!! =D

But in all seriousness though the fact you guys are going though all that trouble of getting carb approved and the kit isnt gonna cost an arm and a leg count me (and most likely everyone in CA) in!

Sparetire 04-25-2014 12:11 PM

Wonder how many people are looking at this vs. the K-Swap for their track cars.

chpmnsws6 04-25-2014 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Sparetire (Post 1125336)
Wonder how many people are looking at this vs. the K-Swap for their track cars.

That K-swap is pretty sweet!

ThePass 04-25-2014 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Sparetire (Post 1125336)
Wonder how many people are looking at this vs. the K-Swap for their track cars.

Only the ones who can't do math. This thread is about a turbo kit that will be something like $3-4k? the K24 swap is a $8-9k ordeal minimum. Slight difference.

Dot3 04-25-2014 01:12 PM

I'm waiting for the track speed engineering Miata k series swap and efr turbo kit.

ctdrftna 04-25-2014 02:31 PM

3 to 4 k + 5k for a built engine that can output the power that a stock k24 can handle. The k24 turns the Miata into a 10x more potent platform. I was gung-ho for a EFR setup 6 months ago. But the k24 is the route I have decided to go.

krissetsfire 04-25-2014 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Dot3 (Post 1125406)
I'm waiting for the track speed engineering Miata k series swap and efr turbo kit.

Sorry my friend but I do not believe you will live to install it.

Savington 04-25-2014 03:40 PM

Every time this thread gets bumped, a kitten dies.

Tekel 04-25-2014 04:11 PM

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Savington 05-21-2014 10:27 PM

A question for those of you waiting with baited breath:

Would you pay a substantial amount of money for a prettier, investment cast part over a less pretty (but still attractive) sand cast part? How much extra money would you spend for the prettier part, assuming the function of the two parts is substantially identical?

soviet 05-21-2014 10:56 PM

$0

soviet 05-21-2014 10:56 PM

I would pay more if it had a dick on it, though.

Twodoor 05-21-2014 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1133399)
A question for those of you waiting with baited breath:

Would you pay a substantial amount of money for a prettier, investment cast part over a less pretty (but still attractive) sand cast part? How much extra money would you spend for the prettier part, assuming the function of the two parts is substantially identical?

Are your costs significantly more if you do both vs one or the other? If not, offer both with the sand cast unit for the "functional is all I need" people and the investment cast manifolds for the guys who need bling under the hood, at a higher cost per unit.

I am in the "functional is all I need" camp, so I wouldn't be willing to pay more than $25 extra for a smoother finish.

Keith


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