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Old 05-03-2014, 11:48 PM
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anyone planning on registering for the east coast nationals with me? Im running PTD and TTD
only 3 PTD cars registered so far and 7 TTD
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I know of one guy contemplating running PTD and/or HC2 at the NASA Nats east. I'm not sure if he has registered yet or not.
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he could do both...
if not, convince him to run PTD. I want to have a good race
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Come out to northern California... lots of PTD Miatas running in these parts.
From the few I've seen, looks like they're running MP62s and the likes, tuned to about 180hp on the dyno...
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If things don't work out for the east coast nationals I might send the car out for the west nationals at Sonoma. I know that track very well. Sonny will be very hard to beat if he decides to run however...
Ive been offered to drive an old team owner of mines HC1 car, so I might come anyways
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Originally Posted by circuitmstr74
If things don't work out for the east coast nationals I might send the car out for the west nationals at Sonoma. I know that track very well. Sonny will be very hard to beat if he decides to run however...
Ive been offered to drive an old team owner of mines HC1 car, so I might come anyways
Sonny is on the fence. My guess is he'll save his cash for T25. Three tries at E3 there and three fails. It has proven to be, as we tell everyone who will listen, the most difficult class to win at T25.
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Old 05-07-2014, 05:30 PM
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I suppose there is a chance I could offer my car up for the 25 as well if I got enough pay drivers along with the proper prep and support. Hmm
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Originally Posted by circuitmstr74
I suppose there is a chance I could offer my car up for the 25 as well if I got enough pay drivers along with the proper prep and support. Hmm
It's a friggin blast. I crewed for 949 the last 2 years and will hopefully be going again this year.
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Just adding information for those who are interested.

From Greg,
Your '94 Mazda Miata with a 1.8L VVT Miata head and a maximum 161 rwhp on a Dynojet, and a Minimum Competition Weight (w/driver) of 2410 lbs, will have a new PT/TT base class of PTD/TTD. You may update to '01-'05 Mazda Miata brakes without a points assessment as well.

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Your '94 Mazda Miata with a 1.8L VVT Miata head and a maximum 161 rwhp on a Dynojet, and a Minimum Competition Weight (w/driver) of 2360 lbs, will have a new PT/TT base class of PTD*/TTD* (seven points). You may update to '01-'05 Mazda Miata brakes without a points assessment as well.

The interesting part is they allow for Sport Brakes without penalty.
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Originally Posted by GraemeD
..The interesting part is they allow for Sport Brakes without penalty.
You can thank Andrew for that.
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Yep, I talked to Greg last May about letting the 1.8L reclass guys have NB (1.8L or Sport) brakes in May of last year. Showed him the update/backdate rule that allowed him to do it, and he agreed. At that point, the NBs were lumped into the 99-05 line, so any 1.8L motor got all of the NB brake options (all 1.8L motors 94-05 were dyno classed the same at that point). With 99-00 and 01-05 on separate lines now, I wouldn't expect him to give the 99-00 guys Sport brakes (only 1.8L brakes).
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Thank you Andrew!
I found a set locally, just need to install them.
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Bringing this back. I won Nationals in 2006 & 2007 in TTD and TTF. There was a lot less competition then. I was able to leave points on the table and pretty easily win back then. I even won in my wife’s street Mazda MX6 in ’07 after I crunched my spec miata really bad earlier in the year. Things have changed in the 7-8 years I took off! Any significant changes to the TT/PT rules in 2015? I would have to dyno reclass to B or C. I have a NA6 with a 2554.
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I won this year only using 16 points for PTD

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For dyno reclass, what kind of pw/wt are miata's being pegged at for B, C, and D? Are you guys willing to share?

edit - I see that externals are penalized, not dual adjustables.

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Originally Posted by loudes13
For dyno reclass, what kind of pw/wt are miata's being pegged at for B, C, and D? Are you guys willing to share?

Also what non-adjustable shock would you recommend to save a few pts?
Xidas for the shock.


Message Greg for dyno reclass info. His would be "official" and can be used with your car.

otherwise, I think there is a thread on trackhq about dyno reclass numbers. that maybe outdated though.

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Yep, I talked to Greg last May about letting the 1.8L reclass guys have NB (1.8L or Sport) brakes in May of last year. Showed him the update/backdate rule that allowed him to do it, and he agreed. At that point, the NBs were lumped into the 99-05 line, so any 1.8L motor got all of the NB brake options (all 1.8L motors 94-05 were dyno classed the same at that point). With 99-00 and 01-05 on separate lines now, I wouldn't expect him to give the 99-00 guys Sport brakes (only 1.8L brakes).
He won't. I messaged him about it for my 99 since I already had the sport calipers. you maybe more convincing though
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Some recent dyno reclass info from a few days ago. (FOr non VVT head swaps).

94 Miata, dyno reclass to 154hp and 2560 min. competition weight.
TTE*, must run in TTD. 99/00 brakes can be used without points.

OR

94 Miata, dyno reclass to 155hp and 2575 min. competition weight.
TTE*, must run in TTD. 99/00 brakes can be used without points.

235mm tires, blah blah.

If I want to stay in TTE I'd need to up the min. weight to 2665. Not something I'm interested in doing, but it is an option.
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'94 with VVT engine, TTD base , plus one star, 160hp at 2360 lbs
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2360 = not enough weight
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Originally Posted by Savington
2360 = not enough weight
Here is the 2014 email from Greg:
Your '94 Mazda Miata with a 1.8L VVT Miata head and a maximum 161 rwhp on a Dynojet, and a Minimum Competition Weight (w/driver) of 2360 lbs, will have a new PT/TT base class of PTD*/TTD* (seven points). Your new base tire size is 245mm. You will not assess modification points for Section B. Weight Reduction or Section C. Engine Mods. You may update to '01-'05 Mazda Miata brakes without a points assessment as well. However, all other modifications, including transmission and LSD, that are not standard items on a base trim '94 Mazda Miata must be assessed points. You must be compliant with the above listed maximum Dynojet HP and Minimum Competition Weight during any tech. inspection.


So that's what I went with. I had to add about 50 lbs.

We will see what 2015 brings. I am going to dyno it agin, because I don't think it is making that much power. Hopefully I can get those 7 points back. And use them for aero.
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