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Old May 17, 2017 | 09:08 PM
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See above for pictures of pistons.
Old May 17, 2017 | 09:10 PM
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Its definitely pitting.

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Light shines through on the damaged area.
Old May 17, 2017 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by aidandj
See above for pictures of pistons.
Wasn't on this page. You expect me to sift through back pages?

Strange looking pitting. Looks more like Lichtenberg patterns than FOD.
Old May 17, 2017 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rleete
Looks like metal deposition, rather than damage. What do your pistons look like?
https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...7/#post1414941
Old May 17, 2017 | 09:18 PM
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Ok, can somebody tell us what that is? I am in the process of building pretty much the same setup and don't want this. Nope, not at all.
Old May 17, 2017 | 09:27 PM
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So its definitely some sort of pitting. Occurred on 6 lifters. 2 pretty bad. 3 a few spots of it. And 1 just 2 small places. I'll take better pictures in a bit. Pretty pissed right now.

Exhaust lifters all look 100% fine. Cam journals look great, cam lobes all look fine.
Old May 17, 2017 | 10:20 PM
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I would put stock shims back in it. My guess is there is a material problem with those buckets, and you probably caught it early enough to save the cam. I would clean off any specs of metal stuck to the lobes and polish them, then go back with stock shims.
Old May 17, 2017 | 10:20 PM
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That's really weird. Typically the cam hits near the center, and fwiw the cams tend to spin the bucket a little. No where near that pitting though.
Old May 17, 2017 | 10:24 PM
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Right? I have no idea what caused it. Especially because the exhaust side looks perfect. But we all know how this market works. It was definitely my fault.....

I'm going to order 6 more tomorrow. Maybe overnight them. Not sure.

Replacing valve seals currently. Using my leakdown tester yo pressurize the cylinder. Leakdown number on cyl 1 looks good at least.

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Originally Posted by aidandj
Right? I have no idea what caused it. Especially because the exhaust side looks perfect. But we all know how this market works. It was definitely my fault.....

I'm going to order 6 more tomorrow. Maybe overnight them. Not sure.

Replacing valve seals currently. Using my leakdown tester yo pressurize the cylinder. Leakdown number on cyl 1 looks good at least.
My best guess is the lifters are too soft. For sure your fault!

I think it's a lifter problem, cause stock lifters/stock cams don't do that. Are you ordering the same brand lifters as before to replace these?
Old May 17, 2017 | 10:36 PM
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These are lifters from Mazda Motorsports Development. Figured at least something under the Mazda name wouldn't fail me...but who knows.

$10 a piece. And I'll call tomorrow and see what they know about the failures.
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Does anyone know what color the OEM valve stem seals match up to. I have green and grey seals.
Old May 17, 2017 | 10:42 PM
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Pretty easy to check hardness. I'd grab a stock shim and have the two tested. If you've ever used a spring loaded center punch it's like that but calibrated and then you measure the "crater" diameter.
Old May 17, 2017 | 10:44 PM
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A razor blade doesn't scratch the surface. So they aren't made out of cheese. I'm still stumped on why the exhaust lifters look so perfect compared to intake.
Old May 17, 2017 | 11:08 PM
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Thats so strange.
Old May 17, 2017 | 11:17 PM
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Anyone who has installed valve stem seals lately. Is there 1 "click" or 2? When you push them down.
Old May 18, 2017 | 12:33 AM
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Welp. Lost a valve keeper down the engine. This is going to be fun.
Old May 18, 2017 | 12:37 AM
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Man you're having some bad luck!

From memory there is one firm click, and they are seated. I used a couple light taps with a hammer (I used an extension and deep set socket to push them onto the guide) to make sure they were completely seated.
Old May 18, 2017 | 12:42 AM
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where did it vanish to? I has to be in the head somewhere right?
Old May 18, 2017 | 12:45 AM
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Nope. Fell into the block



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