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Old 10-22-2015, 02:21 PM   #21
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Why did the original dyno on the 1.6L Sunburst stop at 5500RPM? Is that the factory redline for that car? (I honestly do not know.) If that's the factory redline, what work was performed to allow it to spin to 7250?
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The Base Line dyno for the stock 1.6L we had was from an earlier dyno run and did not match up to our current dyno charts.
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I'm sure it's fine for most... Especially those who will appreciate decent power gains for minimal installation work and fuss.
Sounds perfect. I bet they will sell a lot of them if the kit is as well sorted as it looks. Sounds like they fixed all the problems I've read about older rotrex kits (compressor too small, oil getting too hot for rotrex, cracked mounting hardware).

Having made my own DIY SC kit (and mine is no where near as nice as theirs), I can tell you it's wayyy harder to get it working well compared to a turbo setup. If this were for sale before I built mine, I probably would have bought it.
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Wow. 310 injectors? When I make 220hp I'm using 75% duty cycle of my 610cc injectors.
That don't sound right for the HP on your setup. I thought people made 300whp with 550s on gasoline?
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Very nice. I'm assuming it can make more power with a build motor?

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Yes. These were all stock motors. TDR has a track car with a fully built motor running MegaSquirt. They will be getting it dynoed ASAP.

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Were AFR's mapped for those runs?
These examples are using piggy-back fuel and timing controllers.

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Nice. Glad someone is making progress on a rotrex kit!

I'm slightly skeptical of the dyno charts (mostly the 1.6), just based on what Mobius and a few others have done on more heavily worked over 1.8l engines.
TDR was as surprised as anybody. These are not inflated but corrected charts.

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I'm sure it's fine for most... Especially those who will appreciate decent power gains for minimal installation work and fuss.
The idea is simplicity and no fuss. I can't wait to see what the TDR Track Beast dynos at. I'm thinking over 300 RWHP

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I bet they achieved those numbers using Stoly as an octane booster.
Let's not go there.

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Nice numbers. I'd love to see this kit with a proper ems.
Hopefully soon! The Fuel and Timing cards are actually pretty good though. Perfect for simplicity and safe reliability.

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Why did the original dyno on the 1.6L Sunburst stop at 5500RPM? Is that the factory redline for that car? (I honestly do not know.) If that's the factory redline, what work was performed to allow it to spin to 7250?
The Base Line dyno for the stock 1.6L TDR has was from an earlier dyno run and did not match up to their current dyno charts.
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That don't sound right for the HP on your setup. I thought people made 300whp with 550s on gasoline?
I'll post a log when I get back to my computer.

Found one. Attached. 220hp run. Dyno plot is somewhere in my build.

I even found the dynojet run file.
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So what all size Rotrex's can fit on your bracket? C15-60, C30-64, C30-74, C30-84, and C30-94?

Are there prices yet?

I really like the position of your Rotrex oil cooler and I talked to William last week about you guys mirroring that on the other side with an engine oil cooler. How is that coming along?
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So what all size Rotrex's can fit on your bracket? C15-60, C30-64, C30-74, C30-84, and C30-94?

Are there prices yet?

I really like the position of your Rotrex oil cooler and I talked to William last week about you guys mirroring that on the other side with an engine oil cooler. How is that coming along?
I know we've used a C30-74, C30-84 and C30-94 with our bracket.

Looking at starting around $4700 with inter-cooler, fuel management, catch can, injectors, fuel pump, etc...

This is William! I believe Gary made the mirrored engine oil cooler brackets so they should hopefully be out soon as well.
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I bet the fuel and timing is "SUPER OPTIMIZED" with those power cards
If there's anything Tuning Done Right knows it's timing and fuel.
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Looks like a nice kit for the DIY installer who wants reliability and not having to repair their car constantly.

How would a Rotrex and a coldside double charger system work? Might be a sick build if you could keep the engine in one piece. If you can twin turbo, who not a twin supercharger system?
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Looks like a nice kit for the DIY installer who wants reliability and not having to repair their car constantly.

How would a Rotrex and a coldside double charger system work? Might be a sick build if you could keep the engine in one piece. If you can twin turbo, who not a twin supercharger system?

Why not get a bigger supercharger if you want more power? Have you seen any twin charged DIY systems work well? I haven't.
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How is a fuel card and 3* retarded timing reliable?
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If there's anything Tuning Done Right knows it's timing and fuel.
TDR is a trademark of Track Dog Racing. Tuning Done Right is in no way affiliated with TDR or Track Dog Racing.
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Yeah, I saw the FPR and timing retard tricks; someone, somewhere will drop a standalone into the setup and find another 15 horses without trying.
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Yeah, I saw the FPR and timing retard tricks; someone, somewhere will drop a standalone into the setup and find another 15 horses without trying.
what do they do about the lack of tq?
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what do they do about the lack of tq?
Not bend rods?
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how does downshifting make up for the lack of about 50rwtq on all these plots?
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Could have fooled me.
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