Junkwhale

Are there any better OTS solutions for sway bars? Any plans for a SadFAB option? My front RB bar using the ES lube & poly bushings it came with is pretty damn hard to move at all with both ends disconnected.

Does a delrin sandwich madjak posted above improve things over poly noticibly? (I'm not sure if the friction coefficient between a painted bar & delrin bushing is going to be as good as bare steel on delrin - although it's prob better than poly/paint).

aidandj

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I like the delrin sandwich idea. We have tossed around delrin swaybar bushings, and its on a napkin somewhere. But don't expect or plan on anything from us in the near future.

zellers88

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Have you shaved the poly bushing or shimmed the bracket? The RB bracket squishes the bushing badly once you snug it up unless you do one of those.

Leafy

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I made a set, never had time to install them on the e-stock car. I'm just going to buy a small fortune racing bar for the real racecar because its so cheap.

Junkwhale

Yeah I shimmed the bolts/bracket with washers to make sure it wasn't too squished which did help, it still takes a disturbing amount of force to make it move.

Looks like you can get pillow block bearings like this in the right sizes for our sway bars, very expensive though:

Leafy

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Except you need a split bearing to be able to put it on the normal sway bars, and I never found one with a small enough bolt spacing.

Madjak

The split delrin block works well for something so simple. The paint has worn a little where it rubs on the delrin. Between the rodend end links and solid mounts on the sway I get a lot of clunks and creaks in the back.

I'll do a similar mod on the front.

hi_im_sean

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Try getting that on a sway bar without going way oversized and using a split bushing. You can find roller bearing pillow blocks for about $30 if you know where to look.

I have a few ideas for sway bushings, we're just too busy with regular bushings and other projects right now.

hi_im_sean

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More better. This is one of our customers doing a comparison.

Leafy

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Is it still possible to get spacers for the RUCA outer spherical to use one of the camber adjust control arms?

hi_im_sean

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Absolutely, just send me a pm or email info@sadfab.com when ready.

Chilicharger665

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So it still has a few poly bushings. As I understand, the magic is in the bronze sleeves, so delrin is just one mo betta?

hi_im_sean

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Yes delrin more better... and as mentioned in OP, poly is in a few locations to prevent bind.

Chilicharger665

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I get that, but the level of freedom demonstrated in the video will be nearly the same with all poly bushings or significantly different?

aidandj

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Should be the same. Just less deflection.

hi_im_sean

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Im not sure I understand. The reduced friction in the poly bushings are a result of the bronze bearings. So any poly bushing with the bronze bearings will have similar levels of freedom.

Chilicharger665

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That is what I was getting at. The secret sauce is your bronze bearings, the choice of material is how much stiffness you can bear.

What I don't get it why you guys are the only ones doing this. It is a very known issue that poly bushings like to bind and have lots of friction. You and bbundy's similar solutions are what make mt.net such a cool place.

Is the process as simple as measuring bearings to put in any bushing? So you could theoretically make them for any car?

aidandj

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Its actually even more simple than that. ES all pretty much use standard bushing and sleeve sizes. So you just need a catalog of sleeves and bearings that fit their bushings. We are working on a set for a 240sx, but may be expanding in the future.

Chilicharger665

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Well hot damn, I have an ND that I keep on waffling between selling or keeping and ES has already released a bushing kit for it... The stock car is appalling soft. What information would you need to start on a kit like that?

aidandj

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ES part numbers and some sort of downpayment. We are very busy right now. Lots of orders coming in. Email us.