Fireindc's attempt to build a decent miata. (the search for more torque). - Page 31 - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


Build Threads Building a motor? Post the progress here.

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-13-2014, 02:41 PM   #601
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Taos, New mexico
Posts: 5,702
Total Cats: 237
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hornetball View Post
The poor bastards in Sochi are dreaming of snow like that.
Seriously!, meanwhile in the high desert..



Attached Thumbnails
Fireindc's attempt to build a decent miata.  (the search for more torque).-1888692_590146827741187_1361717503_n.jpg   Fireindc's attempt to build a decent miata.  (the search for more torque).-1509071_590146821074521_1650388255_n.jpg  
Fireindc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 01:32 PM   #602
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Taos, New mexico
Posts: 5,702
Total Cats: 237
Default

What do you guys think of these king bearing sets? Some good prices on ebay, about $50 shipped.


Main Rod Bearings Fits Mazda Mercury Kia 1 6L 1 8L B6 B6ZE BP | eBay

If not kings, what else should i be looking at for around the same price? Those come with rods/mains/thrust bearings. Looking on rock auto i didn't see anything i trusted at a reasonable price.

And piston rings, what about total seal? I can get a set of chrome ones on rockauto for about $100. I know I want chrome rings, does the brand really matter?
Attached Thumbnails
Fireindc's attempt to build a decent miata.  (the search for more torque).-f76204937.jpg  
Fireindc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 01:49 PM   #603
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Cedar City, UT
Posts: 2,769
Total Cats: 948
Default

I have no idea, but I'd rather put a more expensive, reliably tested bearing kit in my motor.

On that note your snow pictures make me want to cry. My knee makes it so I can never ski again, so when I see beautiful slot/side canyons like that with perfect powder...well...those feels man.
Jeffbucc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 02:43 PM   #604
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Granbury, TX
Posts: 6,008
Total Cats: 583
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffbucc View Post
My knee makes it so I can never ski agai
That really sucks for such a youngster.

I just hate that my company moved me from Boise to DFW. I used to ski every weekend and a lot of nights too. But there is a lot more racing here, so maybe it balances.
hornetball is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 02:57 PM   #605
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Taos, New mexico
Posts: 5,702
Total Cats: 237
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffbucc View Post
I have no idea, but I'd rather put a more expensive, reliably tested bearing kit in my motor.

On that note your snow pictures make me want to cry. My knee makes it so I can never ski again, so when I see beautiful slot/side canyons like that with perfect powder...well...those feels man.
Well that sure sucks. Sorry to hear it, i honestly don't know what i would do without being able to ride (snowboard). It's one of the things in life i love and appreciate the most, i'd get rid of everything i have just to keep my snowboard and a lift pass.

NOW BACK TO ENGINE INTERNALS! If not kings, what else should i be looking at reasonably priced that includes mains/rods/thrust bearings. I like what King advertises about their bearings,

"HP Bearings: HP bearings are designed for high performance street or daily driven applications that may see light to medium track time. Built from bi-metal aluminum silicon alloy, HP bearings feature a fine micro-bore finish. Additional performance features include 0.015" thick top layer for maximum conformability, 40 Vickers hardness rating to resist overlay migration and extrusion and a 450F deg. heat threshold for superior protection against friction and overheating. All HP main bearings are 3/4 grooved for improved oiling to rod journals."

And of course if you search for king bearings I cant find a single thing bad about them.

So many choices, so little knowledge (personally).
Fireindc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 03:01 PM   #606
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Cedar City, UT
Posts: 2,769
Total Cats: 948
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hornetball View Post

That really sucks for such a youngster.

I just hate that my company moved me from Boise to DFW. I used to ski every weekend and a lot of nights too. But there is a lot more racing here, so maybe it balances.
I wish I had the latter. Tracks are 3 hours away from me. I loved night skiing. Very zen and relaxing.

Don't tear your ACL twice, meniscus twice, and separate your patella...mountain biking is my last resort besides swimming, but after 6+ years of competitive swimming I hate the smell of chlorine.

Fire, have you searched classifieds for an unused bearing set? Probably find a better price there.
Jeffbucc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 03:01 PM   #607
Elite Member
iTrader: (3)
 
concealer404's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 8,460
Total Cats: 782
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fireindc View Post
What do you guys think of these king bearing sets? Some good prices on ebay, about $50 shipped.


Main Rod Bearings Fits Mazda Mercury Kia 1 6L 1 8L B6 B6ZE BP | eBay

If not kings, what else should i be looking at for around the same price? Those come with rods/mains/thrust bearings. Looking on rock auto i didn't see anything i trusted at a reasonable price.

And piston rings, what about total seal? I can get a set of chrome ones on rockauto for about $100. I know I want chrome rings, does the brand really matter?

In F2T-land, we use those King kits. They're about $32 shipped for us. No complaints. (in fact, just put a set in my new motor.)

We also use Diamond Power rings. $18 shipped. No complaints.

King is pretty equivalent to ACL in terms of reputation, just without all the pesky supply issues.
concealer404 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 03:03 PM   #608
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Leafy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NH
Posts: 9,091
Total Cats: 90
Default

I know I've heard of other cars using king bearings with success. Not sure I've heard of too many people using them on miatas. I think was ends up happening in a lot of communities is that the leading engine builders that post online end up swaying the community to their bearing of choice. Some cars ACLs are god, some its Clevite 66 or nothing, some love King. Its a sacrificial piece of metal as long as your company can make em right, most of the conventional metallurgy has been hashed out so much that as long as you dont need bleeding edge performance I dont see how there could be a significant difference between bearing brands.
Leafy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 03:07 PM   #609
Destroyer of Inconel
iTrader: (37)
 
EO2K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: In ur driveway, abusin' ur WPA
Posts: 9,642
Total Cats: 954
Default

I believe Leatherface was running Kings before he flipped his **** and parted out. Not sure where that engine went, but you might ask him.
EO2K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 03:11 PM   #610
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Taos, New mexico
Posts: 5,702
Total Cats: 237
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EO2K View Post
I believe Leatherface was running Kings before he flipped his **** and parted out. Not sure where that engine went, but you might ask him.
LOL, the engine he thought was knocking but it was just a loose crank pulley? I'll drop him a PM. I think i might go for them, honestly as long as the clearances measure out (will be plasti gauging everything) i don't think there's anything to worry about with them.
Fireindc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 02:10 PM   #611
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Taos, New mexico
Posts: 5,702
Total Cats: 237
Default

DIY subaru mod. I love it. Car did not have an undertray at all before this, so huge upgrade.

Attached Thumbnails
Fireindc's attempt to build a decent miata.  (the search for more torque).-2qaywqc.jpg  
Fireindc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 02:15 PM   #612
Murderator
iTrader: (76)
 
18psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 36,166
Total Cats: 2,573
Default

I love it
18psi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 02:17 PM   #613
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Leafy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NH
Posts: 9,091
Total Cats: 90
Default

nice
Leafy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 02:25 PM   #614
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Taos, New mexico
Posts: 5,702
Total Cats: 237
Default

LOL, thanks guys. You would be surprised how heavy duty that sign was. Had to park a truck on it with a 2x4 and have two people grab the other end and push to get the bend i needed. fits PERFECT now, clears the header, bolts on with 4x 12mm bolts very securely. You could definitely slide it over a rock without much damage to the plate

This was your idea btw vlad (with a diy twist) so i blame you :P
Fireindc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 02:28 PM   #615
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Cedar City, UT
Posts: 2,769
Total Cats: 948
Default

Dude that is so original, I love it! Mad props. If they make a huge handicapped metal sign I would replace it with that, priceless!
Jeffbucc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 02:58 PM   #616
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Leafy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: NH
Posts: 9,091
Total Cats: 90
Default

I wouldnt say so original. People have been stealing road side signs to use as undertrays and heat shields for a long time. That one's pretty well executed though.
Leafy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 03:02 PM   #617
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Taos, New mexico
Posts: 5,702
Total Cats: 237
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leafy View Post
I wouldnt say so original. People have been stealing road side signs to use as undertrays and heat shields for a long time. That one's pretty well executed though.
this was a legitimately acquired undertray.
Fireindc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2014, 03:06 PM   #618
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Cedar City, UT
Posts: 2,769
Total Cats: 948
Default

My dad used to steal road construction signs(the kevlar fabric kind) in the 70's and build climbing packs out of them. They were the only fabric at the time the could deal with being hauled up big wall granite climbs in Yosemite. That pack has been up El Capitan and Half-Dome several times and I still have it in my closet.
Jeffbucc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2014, 11:52 AM   #619
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Taos, New mexico
Posts: 5,702
Total Cats: 237
Default

Still undecided on bearings, but those kings are still tempting. Going to go to the garage this week and mic all my crank measurements to make sure OEM sized bearings are what I need (and that the motor hasn't been rebuilt with OS bearings or something, which i doubt).

Miata is on the mind though, with this warm weather. proof:
Attached Thumbnails
Fireindc's attempt to build a decent miata.  (the search for more torque).-bsk2ulh.jpg  
Fireindc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2014, 12:24 PM   #620
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Erat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Detroit
Posts: 4,191
Total Cats: 260
Default

Pull the trigger already!
Erat is online now   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
LucaCarMods's Boosted Dutch Miata Build! LucaCarMods Build Threads 11 02-14-2016 07:13 AM
WTB MP62 (Hotside) (NB2) Rick02R WTB 3 01-03-2016 08:18 PM
Changing from 460cc to flow force 610cc in diypnp 90 Turbo MEGAsquirt 19 10-19-2015 04:23 PM
Going back to stock. Need some 1.6 parts. Trent WTB 2 10-01-2015 01:15 PM
ISO 1.6 turbo cast iron manifold cale saurage DIY Turbo Discussion 16 10-01-2015 12:25 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:30 PM.