Rebuild all the salvage Miatas! ASS!
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No VVT control, no knock control. If I was doing a nice NA build this MS2 would be perfect, but I'm not.
Listed for sale now.
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-par...99-00-a-83507/
Now I have to decide what to do next, though I'm not going to be ready to buy anything until 1. my current MS2 sells and/or the end of May rolls around (at the earliest). Not in a particular hurry since, well, my car probably won't be running before August at the earliest.
Listed for sale now.
https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-par...99-00-a-83507/
Now I have to decide what to do next, though I'm not going to be ready to buy anything until 1. my current MS2 sells and/or the end of May rolls around (at the earliest). Not in a particular hurry since, well, my car probably won't be running before August at the earliest.
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Perhaps I've found my answer, just posted this morning:
https://www.miataturbo.net/megasquir...-miatas-83509/
https://www.miataturbo.net/megasquir...-miatas-83509/
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It's certainly super tempting. We'll chat about it more, I'm not buying anything for a bit. Need to make some more money before I spend more. I super appreciate the offer though, very interested in having you do it.
I've really been thinking about moving all my ABS stuff over from the MSM... I have literally every single thing I need in order to do it, except the corner I sent to G, but I could probably get him to send it back to me or source another one elsewhere. Oh yeah, I guess I'd need the rear upright as well since mine got bent in the accident again
Thoughts? The tub will be stripped anyway, it really doesn't seem like all that much work since everything else is already out. While I'm in there.....
https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...into-nb-73579/
I've really been thinking about moving all my ABS stuff over from the MSM... I have literally every single thing I need in order to do it, except the corner I sent to G, but I could probably get him to send it back to me or source another one elsewhere. Oh yeah, I guess I'd need the rear upright as well since mine got bent in the accident again
Thoughts? The tub will be stripped anyway, it really doesn't seem like all that much work since everything else is already out. While I'm in there.....
https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...into-nb-73579/
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Do you need it? Reading ogracing brake question thread the OEM ABS isn't that great for track days and stuff. Hot brake pads don't like to take a beating. I think it makes a ton of sense in auto-x but for the track not as much. Also seems like one of those things you could do later without much extra work.
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Do you need it? Reading ogracing brake question thread the OEM ABS isn't that great for track days and stuff. Hot brake pads don't like to take a beating. I think it makes a ton of sense in auto-x but for the track not as much. Also seems like one of those things you could do later without much extra work.
IMHO the real value is just in having it there as a backup. Don't hammer on the ABS into every corner -- instead drive the car like before the ABS went in, but it's there to take over and prevent flatspotting a set of expensive tires. It's also very nice to have in the wet.
As for doing the conversion now, if you want to use the factory front-to-rear hardline then that's MUCH easier to put into a shell. There's no way it'll go past the tranny when it's installed, so I wound up bending, cutting, and re-flaring the original hard line in mine. It worked OK, but a factory line would have been better.
The uprights are also a significant work savings to put in the first time. Even if you decide to defer the rest of the work until later, I'd swap them to start with.
Are you transplanting the MSM diff? IIRC, the MSM axles are specific to that diff, so if you're using an older diff then you'll need to make sure you have axles with ABS rings. You might be able to take the rings off the MSM axles and put them on the older ones, dunno.
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Absolutely! Say the word and I'll get it boxed up. I haven't installed it yet and I'm in no mad rush to do so. I bought it because it was convenient and I knew I'd eventually need one. I'm happy to send it back
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Despite what OGR says, I know people who use ABS all the time on the track without destroying stuff.
IMHO the real value is just in having it there as a backup. Don't hammer on the ABS into every corner -- instead drive the car like before the ABS went in, but it's there to take over and prevent flatspotting a set of expensive tires. It's also very nice to have in the wet.
As for doing the conversion now, if you want to use the factory front-to-rear hardline then that's MUCH easier to put into a shell. There's no way it'll go past the tranny when it's installed, so I wound up bending, cutting, and re-flaring the original hard line in mine. It worked OK, but a factory line would have been better.
The uprights are also a significant work savings to put in the first time. Even if you decide to defer the rest of the work until later, I'd swap them to start with.
Are you transplanting the MSM diff? IIRC, the MSM axles are specific to that diff, so if you're using an older diff then you'll need to make sure you have axles with ABS rings. You might be able to take the rings off the MSM axles and put them on the older ones, dunno.
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IMHO the real value is just in having it there as a backup. Don't hammer on the ABS into every corner -- instead drive the car like before the ABS went in, but it's there to take over and prevent flatspotting a set of expensive tires. It's also very nice to have in the wet.
As for doing the conversion now, if you want to use the factory front-to-rear hardline then that's MUCH easier to put into a shell. There's no way it'll go past the tranny when it's installed, so I wound up bending, cutting, and re-flaring the original hard line in mine. It worked OK, but a factory line would have been better.
The uprights are also a significant work savings to put in the first time. Even if you decide to defer the rest of the work until later, I'd swap them to start with.
Are you transplanting the MSM diff? IIRC, the MSM axles are specific to that diff, so if you're using an older diff then you'll need to make sure you have axles with ABS rings. You might be able to take the rings off the MSM axles and put them on the older ones, dunno.
--Ian
I will be transplanting the entire MSM rear subframe, diff, axles, etc. Everything but the passenger rear control arms which were likely bent in the accident along with the aforementioned upright.
Really really thinking about this. I do remember seeing Muoto's terrifyingly FUBAR'd 11.75" Wilwoods though, attributed to ABS.
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Since I had taken the cruise out (after melting it at laguna) I used the cruise control switch on my dash to control power to the ABS computer, so I can turn it on/off at will.
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Exactly. You want the ABS, it's easy enough to disable if you want to go cave-man-mode.
You can still learn to threshold brake with ABS. If it's saving your tires at the end of every straight, you're doing it wrong.
You can still learn to threshold brake with ABS. If it's saving your tires at the end of every straight, you're doing it wrong.
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The other side of it is cost though. I mean, I have most of the parts but another $200 to G plus shipping for my upright back, plus another rear upright........
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I guess that's not really ALL that much, maybe $400 total, probably a bit less.....
Then there's the simple engine bay....
Oi.
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I guess that's not really ALL that much, maybe $400 total, probably a bit less.....
Then there's the simple engine bay....
Oi.
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haha... Well, I mean, when i was talking 6-pistons y'all talked me out of it, thought maybe this would turn out the same way....
I don't have to make a decision now though... I have to finish the S2000 and get a paycheck or two before I drop more monies on this thing.
Anyone want an MS2e? I think it's time to go visit Clubricer.
I don't have to make a decision now though... I have to finish the S2000 and get a paycheck or two before I drop more monies on this thing.
Anyone want an MS2e? I think it's time to go visit Clubricer.