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Old 08-24-2021, 11:54 AM
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why was the CIA selected to negotiate with the Taliban?
Also, had they read The Art of the Deal, they'd have known you don't give up your most strategic air base, before negotiating...
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ORANGE MAN IS FASCIST!!!!

https://thepostmillennial.com/exclus...nkle-monitors/

AMERICAN NEWS Aug 24, 2021 8:58 AM EST

EXCLUSIVE: Washington public school forces unvaccinated teens to wear ankle monitors

A 15-year-old girl was allegedly forced to wear an ankle tracking monitor for volleyball practice at Eatonville High School in Washington state as a condition of participating in team sports.
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This is a creative way to write: Rhino pretends to support Trump in order to infiltrate the campaign and/or white house

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https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org...sly-negligent/

FRONTLINE DOCTORS CALL FDA APPROVAL OF PFIZER VACCINE GROSSLY NEGLIGENT


LOS ANGELES, CA – America’s Frontline Doctors released the following statement today in response to the FDA’s approval of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine:

“AFLDS decries the FDA’s unprecedented and grossly negligent approval of the Pfizer Covid vaccine, years before completion of their phase three trials. The vaccine was authorized for a variant of the virus that has faded from circulation. The current vaccine is known to be an ineffective and “leaky” vaccine (defined as a vaccine that produces stronger variants once in circulation) against the current variant.

“Vaccine efficacy versus the current Delta strain is inferior to safe, effective treatments the doctors of ALFDS are recommending and would never have qualified for Emergency Use Authorization.

Pfizer unblinded their trial after a few months and gave the product to all, eliminating the placebo arm, making this trial all but useless.

“The vaccine panelists within FDA have numerous financial and other conflicts of interest, and the FDA itself receives industry funding. For example, recent FDA Commissioner Hahn just accepted a job with the financiers of Moderna. This decision also violates the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA) that requires open forums.

“This exposes the FDA as a rubber stamp for Big Pharma and the Biden administration. AFLDS is considering filing for a Temporary Restraining Order lawsuit based on the FACA violation.”
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This is me trying to read in between the lines of what you're saying / asking:

It seems to me that your perception of a "true" vaccine is that it is completely effective at preventing an infection, and lasts forever.

Since "I've done my own research" has become a common maxim, I'd encourage you to do a bit of investigation of the literature surrounding efficacy and duration of action for any common, classical vaccine. Polio, tetanus, measles, pick whatever one you want, then start reading articles in the New England Journal of Medicine, or the Journal of the American Medical Association, or whatever source you feel is trustworthy.

Vaccines are not 100% effective.

Vaccines do not prevent infection, they help the body to fight off infection and thus prevent serious illness.

Vaccines do not last forever. Their efficacy diminishes with time. The common advice for tetanus, for instance, is that the vaccine be administered once every ten years, or sooner if a wound which presents a significant probability of infection occurs.
I do realize that vaccines do not last forever and I completely understand and accept that, to a point, I guess. My mention of steroid treatment there was merely an attempt, by an apparently poor example, to try and question where those limits are and/or should be for that point. What should the minimum duration of usefulness be for a vaccine? (and particularly if you are literally going to sell it to the world on a mass scale?) Theoretically, if the duration becomes extremely short, does it not become more akin to a mere beneficial therapy (alleged) to enhance the body's ability to deal with a virus, like other (non-vaccine) drugs such as Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, etc. ? And then, at such a point, doesn't the term 'vaccine' become rather semantic?
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On another note . . .
Ladies and gentlemen, I present the leader of the free world:



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What should the minimum duration of usefulness be for a vaccine?
That's an interesting question, and one which I would say falls more into the realm of philosophy rather than science.

What should be the minimum length of a piece of rope? Well, that depends largely upon the application for which the rope is needed.
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Vaccines are not 100% effective.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/pol...rotection.html
https://www.health.ny.gov/publications/7022/
https://www.hhs.gov/immunization/dis...pox/index.html
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/dta...t-vaccine.html

High 90%. If you brought your car to the mechanic and he said he was 40% sure he could fix it you'd find a new mechanic. It is not normal for a mechanic to have a 40% success rate.
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Vaccines do not prevent infection, they help the body to fight off infection and thus prevent serious illness.
That's like, totally your opinion man.

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Vaccines do not last forever. Their efficacy diminishes with time.
Bullshit. Or, where are our guys walking around with lockjaw, while crippled and scarred from smallpox?

I don't even think they give polio vaccines any more, because that actual vaccine worked so ******* good it's functionally gone.

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wait wut?! when did healthy doctors and nurses start risking themselves to help the sick?


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$171,000,000 question: If they're vaccinated then what would it even matter?
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Originally Posted by deezums
If you brought your car to the mechanic and he said he was 40% sure he could fix it you'd find a new mechanic. It is not normal for a mechanic to have a 40% success rate.
I take it that you have never owned an Italian car of 60s / 70s vintage.


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Or, where are our guys walking around with lockjaw,
Mostly in southern Asia.

A combination of effective use of tetanus immune globulin in wound management, and the general migration of North Americans away from rural outdoor settings in which the tetanus spore is common, has made tetanus rare in the US; a total of 264 cases and 19 deaths from 2009-2017.



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while crippled and scarred from smallpox?
There are none, as Smallpox is considered to have been fully eradicated in the wild.
https://ourworldindata.org/smallpox


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I don't even think they give polio vaccines any more, because that actual vaccine worked so ******* good it's functionally gone.
In the Americas, yes. It's recently been making a comeback in Africa.
https://www.cdc.gov/polio/progress/index.htm
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Funny note: the US Military still administers smallpox vaccines...

Funnier note: The smallpox vaccine is still administered in much the same way Edward Jenner trialed it in 1796. The vaccine is applied topically over a mechanically produced dermal abrasion - seriously, they jab a small section of skin with a million tiny pinpricks, and then cover it with a nicoderm-style vaccine patch.
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https://uncoverdc.com/2021/08/23/***...ting-variants/

I think I may have read something about this here but the article appears to be new. So the tldr is in the title. Now you can accuse Nobel winners of wearing tin hats.
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https://jamesfetzer.org/2021/08/bomb...trument-noise/

The beginning of this article may be informative, but then the conspiracy goes a little over the top. TL;DR the CV19 tests were created without having isolated CV19, so how are they supposed to work?
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Looks like he rehashed an old hoax

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2LS27P
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Funny note: the US Military still administers smallpox vaccines...
It's more horrifying than funny.

In the 1960s and 70s, the Soviet Union produced a hell of a lot of smallpox as a bioweapon. None is known to have escaped, which is a tad surprising given that Russia in the immediate post-soviet era was not known for keeping tight control over its military hardware.

Today, North Korea is suspected (but not, to my knowledge, proven) to be manufacturing smallpox as a weapon as well.

A release of smallpox in weaponized form (eg: aerosolized distribution over an urban area) would have devastating effects on an unvaccinated population. So it kind of makes sense for this to be one of the many things against which military servicemembers are vaccinated.

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Serious question: wouldn't the military have a way of just shutting the tanks, helicopters, etc. off? Yes I am that ignorant on the subject. But I would think with the amount of development put into these weapons, one of the first things would be to make them unusable by the enemy should they be captured. With satellite communications with these things totally possible, why wouldn't they be?
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With satellite communications with these things totally possible, why wouldn't they be?
Reliability.

Military vehicles are designed to be as simple and fault-tolerant as possible. The last thing you want is for your tank / Humvee / whatever to refuse to start because of some software glitch. This is why they don't even have ignition keys, just a switch.
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I guess if we move the goalposts and redefine the word vaccine, then we've got a "vaccine" that works. If you check the top google results, they've already modified the definition. Spike protiens, RNA, a bunch of other bullshit.

If people can still get infected and are still contagious then why did they relax the mask mandates that totally worked?
Masks don't work, now or in the past. T-shirt masks are theater. Major studies in Denmark (5,000 people) and Georgia (60,000 people) have confirmed this. It pisses me if daily that my children, who statistically have a zero percent chance of doing of Covid, wear masks at school.

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