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09-28-2021, 12:17 AM
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I do read it.
I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around what I charitably describe as your thought process.
Your modus operandi seems to be "I claim that whatever source or information you posit to be reliable is a liar. Thus, there is literally nothing you can say which can change my mind."
That's an awesome sort of reasoning.
It is, in fact, precisely the sort of tactic which I employed against my parents when I was 8 years old.
I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around what I charitably describe as your thought process.
Your modus operandi seems to be "I claim that whatever source or information you posit to be reliable is a liar. Thus, there is literally nothing you can say which can change my mind."
That's an awesome sort of reasoning.
It is, in fact, precisely the sort of tactic which I employed against my parents when I was 8 years old.
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09-28-2021, 12:17 AM
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09-28-2021, 12:19 AM
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find me a source that hasn't lied to me before and maybe I'll be convinced, until then I'm going to have my doubts.
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09-28-2021, 12:22 AM
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You have demonstrated that you will not accept any explanation which I might offer to you, because you have (incorrectly) reached the conclusion that I am a Liberal.
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09-28-2021, 12:24 AM
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09-28-2021, 12:40 AM
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Quick example of politifact lying
https://www.politifact.com/li-meng-yan-fact-check/
politifact exists to push a narrative
https://www.politifact.com/li-meng-yan-fact-check/
politifact exists to push a narrative
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09-28-2021, 07:55 AM
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https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/476162/
“FIRST SIRHAN SIRHAN, NOW THIS: John Hinckley, Who Shot President Reagan, Wins Unconditional Release.
Hmm. As Biden grows more and more embarrassing, assassins are suddenly being released from prison. I’m just saying. . . “
“FIRST SIRHAN SIRHAN, NOW THIS: John Hinckley, Who Shot President Reagan, Wins Unconditional Release.
Hmm. As Biden grows more and more embarrassing, assassins are suddenly being released from prison. I’m just saying. . . “
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09-28-2021, 08:59 AM
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It claims the images were duplicated during the curing process with literally no supporting evidence. No one knows if these ballots were scanned twice or not -- Not sure DN have released their forensic findings on the actual ballots yet...
Dr. Shiva claims all those duplicate ballots envelopes came in after the election day:
This supports the theory that they knew how many votes were needed in order to push Biden to the win, after they randomly stopped counting in the middle of the night for still unknown reasons.
Most importantly: what we don't know is if these duplicate ballots were counted in the final results or not. There's no way to match the ballots with the envelopes.
I also read, and can't find the source, that Maricopa Co claimed they only made a few hundred duplicate ballots.
This is what audits uncover. It's not a recount. If I give you $20 and $10 of it is monopoly money, you still have $20 each time you count it.
Dr. Shiva claims all those duplicate ballots envelopes came in after the election day:
This supports the theory that they knew how many votes were needed in order to push Biden to the win, after they randomly stopped counting in the middle of the night for still unknown reasons.
Most importantly: what we don't know is if these duplicate ballots were counted in the final results or not. There's no way to match the ballots with the envelopes.
I also read, and can't find the source, that Maricopa Co claimed they only made a few hundred duplicate ballots.
This is what audits uncover. It's not a recount. If I give you $20 and $10 of it is monopoly money, you still have $20 each time you count it.
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09-28-2021, 01:50 PM
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Does the article go into any detail as to what the "things" they have gotten done are?
Are they things which are in fact mostly attributable to policies and programs put in place during the Trump era?
Are they things which are in fact mostly attributable to policies and programs put in place during the Trump era?
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09-28-2021, 07:51 PM
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Since nothing came of this, I wanted to close it out.
I was at an HPDE event this past weekend in WV and was sitting in my hotel room Saturday (25 Sep 21) late afternoon reviewing track logs on MLV. The hotel only has 42 available TV channels, and I reluctantly had Fox News on low volume and wasn't really paying attention. Watter's World was on, and Carlee Shimkus was the guest. I find her very attractive for a skinny, blonde girl. He played her a "viral" video of a male gorilla going down on a female gorilla--textbook oral sex--and asked her what she thought. He played it for her a second time, and she politely left asking WTF. She actually asked "Is this why you had me on"? I was honestly taken aback. I was sitting there going WTFuck just happened. I'm having a hard time believing it's over...
I was at an HPDE event this past weekend in WV and was sitting in my hotel room Saturday (25 Sep 21) late afternoon reviewing track logs on MLV. The hotel only has 42 available TV channels, and I reluctantly had Fox News on low volume and wasn't really paying attention. Watter's World was on, and Carlee Shimkus was the guest. I find her very attractive for a skinny, blonde girl. He played her a "viral" video of a male gorilla going down on a female gorilla--textbook oral sex--and asked her what she thought. He played it for her a second time, and she politely left asking WTF. She actually asked "Is this why you had me on"? I was honestly taken aback. I was sitting there going WTFuck just happened. I'm having a hard time believing it's over...
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09-29-2021, 06:27 AM
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But here is some more data:
More than 60% equals 85 deaths. That means roughly 60 people that had been vaxxed also died. With numbers like that and a headline that says 17% of the population make up for 60% of deaths and data out the *** but no data on the existing medical conditions of all (not just the unvaxxed) is a sensational headline anywhere in this world.
There was an increase in reported covid cases of roughly 18% (3208 to 2630) and that is reported as a "slight increase".
"As many as 46 coronavirus patients were on heart-and-lung ECMO machines as of Sunday, the highest number on the apparatus in Israel during the pandemic – and a figure that one doctor says is putting the country near the breaking point." So 46 patients make a system near breaking point. I'm totally ignorant as to the availability of the apparatus in Israel but extreme times call for extreme measures; might they want to try alternative treatments that have shown to get people off the apparatus in question?
"On Sunday, the Health Ministry announced that patients who have recovered from coronavirus will now need a single dose of the vaccine to receive a Green Pass if six months have elapsed since their diagnosis, Prof. Nachman Ash, the director general of the Health Ministry, made the decision due to the diminished immunity to the virus over time for those who have recovered from COVID." So natural immunity decreases over time but so does the
"More than a million Israelis who qualify to be vaccinated have not yet gotten the coronavirus vaccine." Of these 230,000 are under 30 and 350,000 are between 20 and 12. So over 50% of the unvaxxed are young healthy people. My wife and I (52 and 48 at the time) both had covid in Feb 2021. Our son (10) was around us all the time. Little booger never showed any symptoms and tested negative. Please, let's leave the young alone. And in case you were wondering, we were sick for a week with flu like symptoms. Neither of us went to the hospital or even took any "medication" for it.
There is plenty more data on there but I'll leave it at that. There is even a chart that says the Pfizer vax works. Which is what I believe this article to be, a Pfizer commercial. Get your shot, then your booster shot, and another, and another, every six months and you too will be a "free" citizen.
BTW Skamba, wasn't it you that said vaccines work better than masks? Was that to prevent infection? You also said that the common flu has disappeared yet I've run into a couple of people already this flu season that have flu like symptoms while testing negative for covid. And now there are ads all over for the flu shot. I'm perplexed? Let me guess, it's because people relaxed their social distancing,, masks, and hygiene standards, right? But of course, only the alt-right crazy-conspiracy-theorists ****-Fascists people cherry pick data and sources to consider relevant. The Centrists and Leftists are always right... I mean left.
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09-29-2021, 08:14 AM
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Daniel Andrews, the Premier of Victoria, and Martin Foley, the Victoria Minister of Health, have announced new lockdown measures for the state. Andrews says new measures will target the unvaccinated.
During a press conference today, Health Minister Martin Foley stated that 78% of the people in hospitals with Covid-19 on September 27th were fully vaccinated. Another 17% of those hospitalized were partially vaccinated.
This is an extraordinary claim because fewer than half of Australians have been vaccinated. The official vaccination rate of Victoria is 47.7% for those 16 and over. However, another 31% have receive the first dose of an mRNA vaccine. Foley’s statements wildly contradict Andrews, who claimed that the unvaccinated were at a far higher risk of hospitalization.
Foley also reported four deaths allegedly caused by Covid-19. He said that only one of the deaths was a fully vaccinated person. Two of the people who died were in their 80s, one in their 70s, and another in their 50s.
Victoria currently has 375 people who are hospitalized with Covid-19. Of these, 81 are in intensive care, and 61 require a ventilator.
There are four vaccines available in Australia. Three of them, Moderna, Pfizer, and AstraZeneca, are the new mRNA vaccines. The fourth is a traditional carrier vaccine from Johnson and Johnson.
During a press conference today, Health Minister Martin Foley stated that 78% of the people in hospitals with Covid-19 on September 27th were fully vaccinated. Another 17% of those hospitalized were partially vaccinated.
This is an extraordinary claim because fewer than half of Australians have been vaccinated. The official vaccination rate of Victoria is 47.7% for those 16 and over. However, another 31% have receive the first dose of an mRNA vaccine. Foley’s statements wildly contradict Andrews, who claimed that the unvaccinated were at a far higher risk of hospitalization.
Foley also reported four deaths allegedly caused by Covid-19. He said that only one of the deaths was a fully vaccinated person. Two of the people who died were in their 80s, one in their 70s, and another in their 50s.
Victoria currently has 375 people who are hospitalized with Covid-19. Of these, 81 are in intensive care, and 61 require a ventilator.
There are four vaccines available in Australia. Three of them, Moderna, Pfizer, and AstraZeneca, are the new mRNA vaccines. The fourth is a traditional carrier vaccine from Johnson and Johnson.
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09-29-2021, 08:20 AM
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https://www.rt.com/usa/536078-north-...ndate-firings/
They must not need the extra dancers...
This was the same hospital system where the admins were caught on camera trying to make covid number sound scarier...
North Carolina hospital system fires 175 unvaccinated employees as mandate takes effect
28 Sep, 2021 19:47This was the same hospital system where the admins were caught on camera trying to make covid number sound scarier...
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09-29-2021, 08:23 AM
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/ny-gov...-over-vaccines
NY doesn't need dancers during a pandemic either.
Now this is the cute part:
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/mo...ment-insurance
gotta be fun to make the rules up as you go!
and to make up for the lack of tiktok dancers:
Bring in the National Guard!
Bur remember when this was unutilized?
So the vaccine doesn't prevent you from catching or spreading the virus, and these health care workers obviously know the risks in refusing the vaccine, so why are they being fired for it? They pose no extra risk to patients, only potentially themselves...
...State data shows that 84 percent of the state’s 450,000 hospital workers are vaccinated, along with 83 percent of its 145,400 nursing home workers. Even still, that means as many as 94,000 workers are unvaccinated, leaving a potentially dire shortfall in workers from Monday. Many who refused to get the shot have argued it violates their personal freedoms.
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Some health-care facilities believe they can withstand the loss of those employees once the Sept. 27 deadline kicks in—the earliest of those deadlines, with California’s set to start Sept. 30 and Maine’s enforcement beginning Oct. 29...
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Some health-care facilities believe they can withstand the loss of those employees once the Sept. 27 deadline kicks in—the earliest of those deadlines, with California’s set to start Sept. 30 and Maine’s enforcement beginning Oct. 29...
Now this is the cute part:
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/mo...ment-insurance
In a statement released Sept. 25, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul's office said the New York Department of Labor has issued guidance to clarify that terminated workers won't be eligible for the benefits unless they have a valid physician-approved request for medical accommodation.
The governor's office made the announcement at the same time it unveiled a plan to address staffing shortages should a large number of healthcare workers leave hospitals and other facilities because of the state mandate.
New York's mandate requires healthcare workers at hospitals and nursing homes to receive their first vaccine dose by Sept. 27.
The governor's office made the announcement at the same time it unveiled a plan to address staffing shortages should a large number of healthcare workers leave hospitals and other facilities because of the state mandate.
New York's mandate requires healthcare workers at hospitals and nursing homes to receive their first vaccine dose by Sept. 27.
and to make up for the lack of tiktok dancers:
Bring in the National Guard!
Bur remember when this was unutilized?
So the vaccine doesn't prevent you from catching or spreading the virus, and these health care workers obviously know the risks in refusing the vaccine, so why are they being fired for it? They pose no extra risk to patients, only potentially themselves...
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09-29-2021, 10:25 AM
https://www.rt.com/usa/536078-north-...ndate-firings/
They must not need the extra dancers...
This was the same hospital system where the admins were caught on camera trying to make covid number sound scarier...
They must not need the extra dancers...
This was the same hospital system where the admins were caught on camera trying to make covid number sound scarier...
It actually probably bears pointing out that 99.5% of their medical staff has been vaccinated.
Additionally, according to the article, they suspended 375 employees for failing to meet vaccine requirements - meaning that over half of the people who threatened to quit over vaccines were ultimately vaccinated.
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