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Old 02-23-2023, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by golftdibrad
here is a good analysis of why it was handled the way it was. guy can be a little unhinged sometimes but is super bright.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=248110

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I don't want to say complete bullsheet because my chemistry is rusty. I got my bachelor's in chem back before baking soda and aspirin were invented. I don't believe what he's saying gets to the problem.

The idea that these tanker cars would explode like a WWII fragmentation grenade is ridiculous. They're designed to rupture, The premise for the need for the "controlled release" is essentially a lie.

"Controlled burn" is an umbrella term for a controlled chemical reaction facilitated by extreme heat. In a real controlled burn, temperature, oxygen levels, pressure, and the use of additional chemicals to create the exact reaction required are "controlled". It doesn't refer to a couple of guys with extinguishers standing around making sure an errant shrubbery doesn't catch fire. "Burning" a substance at 451 degrees fahrenheit might yield quite different products than burning at 800 degrees. They basically lit a bunch of stuff, that was mixed with other stuff, on fire in an open pit.

Unfortunately, no one will be held responsible.
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Old 02-23-2023, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by golftdibrad
Interesting! The poem was really good, but like, too specific for me working in chemical industry to have not heard before.







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re: Randal,during all the riots in 20 he was in support of BLM as an org, after it was clear they were a front for commies. I see that reference and link is now removed. But between that and life just being generally busy I just stopped reading.

Also is fully bought into AWG is the literal end of the world and made comics to that point, some intentionally deceitful when I know HE knows better. (https://xkcd.com/1732/) See there is a link to the NYT climate FAQ and some AGW end of the world twitter person.
Huh. I do not recall BLM ever being mentioned. The closest thing I can think of to Randall leaning leftwards was comic 1756, and, honestly, that was a pretty mainstream / moderate political sentiment in 2016.

As for AGW, I don't really consider that to be indivisible from wokeness. (Oh, no. Does that mean I'm woke?) It's based on imperfect science, but hasn't been credibly refuted to my knowledge. And, again, he's taken a fairly objective and moderate approach to presenting the subject matter, unlike Thunberg, et al.


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Old 02-23-2023, 02:38 PM
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As for AGW, I don't really consider that to be indivisible from wokeness. (Oh, no. Does that mean I'm woke?) It's based on imperfect science, but hasn't been credibly refuted to my knowledge. And, again, he's taken a fairly objective and moderate approach to presenting the subject matter, unlike Thunberg, et al.
Its not that most people don't think AGW is real, its that most sane people realize that the threat is overblown. His graph in 1732 (only a few away from 1756) is disingenuous. It suggests to the lay person "oh no! we just came out of ice age and now might boil the planet!"

When in reality we are more likely nearing the peak of 100-120k year cycle, and its been both much warmer and much colder on this rock. Cold bad.
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Originally Posted by golftdibrad
His graph in 1732 (only a few away from 1756) is disingenuous. It suggests to the lay person "oh no! we just came out of ice age and now might boil the planet!"
To be fair, it's difficult to convey deep scientific concepts in a short comic.

Randall has done a number of different climate strips, each one having a different theme. # 1225, for instance, happens to look at the precise topic as the article you linked to- the most recent glacial maximum, 21,000 years ago:





A big challenge in having conversations about this topic is that it has become highly politicized. As a result, people tend to have (or, at least, express) highly exaggerated opinions on the subject. Of those who are sufficiently interested in the topic of global warming / climate change to participate in conversations about it, a vast majority seem to be predisposed to fall into either the "OMG, THIS IS A MASSIVE CRISIS, WE MUST EAT BUGS AND GIVE UP ALL MODERN COMFORTS" camp, or the rival "Man, this is all just a hoax, calculated by The Government to get everyone to submit" one.

The truth is likely somewhere in between these two extremes. Is AGW a hoax / fabrication? There seems to be very strong correlation which suggests that it is not. Are politicians, corporations, and other SIGs opportunistically taking advantage of the potential threats which it poses for their own gain? Without a doubt.


But, compromise positions rarely satisfy those with extreme beliefs.


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Old 02-23-2023, 04:01 PM
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Yes. It's a really fascinating piece of technology. I've also been using it to create responses to Braineack's meme-dumps lately. All of the Donald Trump replies yesterday were from ChatGPT, for instance.
WILD. They read exactly like your usual drivel.
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When in reality we are more likely nearing the peak of 100-120k year cycle, (...)
Consider a tangentially-related scenario: imagine having this conversation with my sister.

She'd very quickly point out that your data is inherently flawed. Perhaps not deliberately, of course. But since God only created the Earth around 6,000 years ago, any data you present which claims to be older than that must be erroneous. She absolutely cannot believe any theory or concept which requires the assumption that the Earth existed prior to about 4,000 BC, because that would be contrary to something which she considers to be a absolute, unshakeable, foundational truth.


Some people are adherents to the young-earth-creationism philosophy of the Christian church.

Others are adherents to the fear-and-hysteria philosophy of the Church of Statism.

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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Consider a tangentially-related scenario: imagine having this conversation with my sister.

She'd very quickly point out that your data is inherently flawed. Perhaps not deliberately, of course. But since God only created the Earth around 6,000 years ago, any data you present which claims to be older than that must be erroneous. .
Well that's the easy one, whatever happens is simply god's will.
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Framed and hung on the wall for posterity.

You may or may not have any idea how many times I've heard the phrase "... part of God's plan." It can be used to justify anything.
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This is an excellent example of why I should never run for Congress. Because I'd probably say **** like this in front of the Judiciary Committee:


“In the case where child abuse is fatal, obviously it’s not good for the child, but it’s actually a benefit to society because there aren’t needs for government services and whatnot over the whole course of the child’s life”

That'd be Alaska state Rep. David Eastman (R), speaking at a hearing on childhood trauma on Monday.

“Can you say that again?” replied Trevor Storrs, the president of the Alaska Children’s Trust. “Did you say a benefit to society?”

Rep. Eastman elaborated: “Talking dollars, you’ve got a $1.5 million price tag for victims of fatal child abuse. It’s argued periodically that it’s actually a cost savings because that child is not going to need any of those government services that they might otherwise be entitled to receive and need based on growing up in this type of environment.”



I mean, he's not wrong. But even I know that you don't say **** like that in front of the state legislature. Especially when you're an elected politician in a state which, ostensibly, does not condone child-murder.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
This is an excellent example of why I should never run for Congress. Because I'd probably say **** like this in front of the Judiciary Committee:

“In the case where child abuse is fatal, obviously it’s not good for the child, but it’s actually a benefit to society because there aren’t needs for government services and whatnot over the whole course of the child’s life.”
I mean, he's not wrong. But even I know that you don't say **** like that in front of the state legislature. Especially when you're an elected politician in a state which, ostensibly, does not condone child-murder.
However, it might become a tenable campaign position if you’re in Canada.
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So apparently Project Veritas got sponsored by Pfizer and then died suddenly.
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When I ship product from Taiwan, I don't actually own it until I take possession of it at the port of discharge. Because insurance. Insurance takes care of any issues between "ex factory" and the port of discharge. Otherwise it would be based on the contract, which could say "ex factory", "ex Taiwan port", or even "door to door" in which case any mishap during transport would be covered by the shipper and his insurance.

Of course we haven't discussed military conflict or a "force majeure."

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When I ship product from Taiwan, I don't actually own it until I take possession of it at the port of discharge. Because insurance. Insurance takes care of any issues between "ex factory" and the port of discharge. Otherwise it would be based on the contract, which could say "ex factory", "ex Taiwan port", or even "door to door" in which case any mishap during transport would be covered by the shipper and his insurance.

Of course we haven't discussed military conflict or a "force majeure."

You're so close.

Keep going. Just a little further.
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2023.

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When I ship product from Taiwan, I don't actually own it until I take possession of it at the port of discharge. Because insurance. Insurance takes care of any issues between "ex factory" and the port of discharge. Otherwise it would be based on the contract, which could say "ex factory", "ex Taiwan port", or even "door to door" in which case any mishap during transport would be covered by the shipper and his insurance.

Of course we haven't discussed military conflict or a "force majeure."
the FDA when talking about milk, 2023 colorized.
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media, 2023.

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Beyond Weird – Senator John Fetterman Wife and Kids Fled Country After His Hospitalization


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Off doing something exotic.

Now how long before it comes out he's actually braindead and can no longer hold office?
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