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Old 01-31-2023, 09:14 AM
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The only real value to our lives rests in what is retained by those whose lives we've touched after we have departed. Bits of wisdom or wit may survive us. Acts of mentorship, assistance, and affection can sometimes alter the trajectory of others in a meaningful way. That alteration might influence several generations if we are lucky (or unlucky).

After our physical bodies are consumed by the earth or by pyre and our treasures are scattered, all that remains is our memories in those who remain. I often wonder what breadcrumbs will remain to attest to my existence. Will this life which has been so precious to me be of any consequence to those outside of immediate family, who are almost obligated to care? Time will tell.
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that time you trying objective journalism:

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the time you tried post-objectivity journalism

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ity-diversity/

Newsrooms that move beyond ‘objectivity’ can build trust


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January 30, 2023 at 7:15 a.m. EST

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Originally Posted by Braineack
that time you trying objective journalism:

(Kekistan)
That time when a video reinforced your pre-existing notions so hard that you didn't notice that it was parody.
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Originally Posted by golftdibrad
Jesus Joe thats dark.
Wasn't meant to be dark, merely practical.

I'm past "middle age" in terms of the actuarial tables. More years behind than there are ahead. Still in good health (not on any medications, have never been to a doctor except after a trauma or acute condition, etc), and I've had the good fortune of relative financial success. Not so much that I can afford not to think about money, but enough that I can plan to do seemingly irresponsible things with it after careful planning and consideration. Assuming the market doesn't tank any further, I should cross over $1m in total assets within the next year.

I'd like to do the crazy **** that a lot of people only dream or talk about. Like retire at 55, then drop out from the real world and live full-time in an RV, meandering across the continent in search of good weather and rugged terrain to explore. Always another mountain to climb or canyon to get lost in. Strangers to meet, dogs to pet... I have a rough plan which will allow me to enjoy about 10-15 years of that. If everything works out just perfectly, the money will run out about exactly at the same time that my body no longer permits me to live that sort of rough and detached lifestyle.

I have no kids, and thus no grandchildren to dote on. So, and I ask this in all seriousness: why would I want to live any longer than that?

Why would I want to settle back into a boring life in a retirement community, just wasting away the days playing shuffleboard, with nothing to look forward to?

That, to me, is a dark thought. I'd far prefer to go out at the top, both literally and metaphorically.
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I agree with living past your usefulness is not much of a life, but I don't think that's what was meant by value of life. And to be somewhat on topic of this thread, it's one of the many issues facing this country economically. Everyone is living past what SS and medicare was intended to provide for. And obviously everyone is sick and needs taking care of and caregivers are more than happy to milk the cash cow that the gov't is providing. Obviously we still value the life of our elderly, but those lives have run their cycle. But simply pushing everyone off on a canoe into the Artic is not a humane solution, at least not in this society. I don't have a solution nor an opinion on the matter but I do realize it's a thing people know but wish not to talk about since sooner or later it will be them in that predicament. From a personal perspective, I'd rather not have anyone wipe my *** again and would like to be dead before that happens.

I at least was pointing out that life is valuable. It's something you only get to do once, unless reincarnation really does exist. So being allowed to live freely and allowing others to do the same is important. I don't think anyone will agree living life in oppression of gov't or religion or whatever, is not much of a life at all and I feel for those that live in those situations. Same as all those souls that have been sent off to fight wars. How many lives have been cut short through no fault of their own unlike you and I who have lived in decadence that 99% of all humans ever to walk this earth couldn't even dream of?

That's the perspective I gained when I became a parent. Don't know where it came from, it just did.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Wasn't meant to be dark, merely practical.
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That, to me, is a dark thought. I'd far prefer to go out at the top, both literally and metaphorically.
Your logic is sound and as a firm believer in individual freedom your life is to do yours with as you wish.

Consider however, that this is still a veryyyyy long way off and as your physical body begins to fail you (short of chronic disease like cancer or such), perhaps you will find less physical activities that add value to your life such that you don't want to stop the clock prematurely. Teaching, mentoring, star gazing, etc.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
That time when a video reinforced your pre-existing notions so hard that you didn't notice that it was parody.
it was a joke that was supported by the following Washington Post Executive Editor basically claiming that object fact is bad and subjective feelings are good.

and you missed it.


To better understand the changes happening now, I and former CBS News president Andrew Heyward, a colleague at Arizona State University’s Walter Cronkite School of Journalism, investigated the values and practices in mainstream newsrooms today, with a grant from the Stanton Foundation. What we found has convinced us that truth-seeking news media must move beyond whatever “objectivity” once meant to produce more trustworthy news. We interviewed more than 75 news leaders, journalists and other experts in mainstream print, broadcast and digital news media, many of whom also advocate such a change. This appears to be the beginning of another generational shift in American journalism.

Among the news leaders who told Heyward and me that they had rejected objectivity as a coverage standard was Kathleen Carroll, former executive editor of the Associated Press. “It’s objective by whose standard?” she asked. “That standard seems to be White, educated, fairly wealthy. … And when people don’t feel like they find themselves in news coverage, it’s because they don’t fit that definition.”

More and more journalists of color and younger White reporters, including LGBTQ+ people, in increasingly diverse newsrooms believe that the concept of objectivity has prevented truly accurate reporting informed by their own backgrounds, experiences and points of view.

“There is some confusion about the value of good reporting versus point of view,” said current Post executive editor Sally Buzbee, who noted that many journalists want to make a difference on such issues as climate change, immigration and education. “We stress the value of reporting,” she said, “what you are able to dig up — so you (the reader) can make up your own mind.”

“The consensus among younger journalists is that we got it all wrong,” Emilio Garcia-Ruiz, editor in chief of the San Francisco Chronicle, told us. “Objectivity has got to go.”Garcia-Ruiz is among a vanguard of print, broadcast and digital news leaders who have increased their newsrooms’ diversity and created new avenues of communication among their reporters and editors to discuss issues and coverage. Some have assembled affinity groups or caucuses of staff members — for women, Blacks, Latinos, Asian Americans and LGBTQ+ people — and involved them in newsroom decisions.

At USA Today, editor in chief Nicole Carroll told us she seeks a diversity of staff participants, experiences and views in daily brainstorming sessions about news coverage. In these discussions, Carroll said, she and her editors “have found more value in diverse people’s lived experiences.” She has no prohibitions against staff members working on stories involving their identities or life experiences unless they demonstrate a strong bias.

At the Los Angeles Times, reporters and editors have many personal identities, explained editor Kevin Merida. “We find ways for our journalists to share more of that,” including first-person essays on the front page. He cited a Latina reporter’s story about the low vaccination rate in her community, and a gay police reporter’s story about his own marriage and a potential U.S. Supreme Court threat to the legality of gay marriages.

Some local television stations owned by broadcast networks are trying to increase their coverage of real life in their communities. ABC-owned stations have, for example, sent journalists from recently created “race and culture content” teams into local neighborhoods. “We have to be able to use the voices of people whose neighborhoods we don’t normally go into and tell these stories from their vantage point,” Maxine Crooks, a vice president of ABC-owned stations, told us.

Claudia Milne, senior vice president of standards and practices for CBS News, pointed out that decisions about which news to cover can reflect an organization’s values, whether or not these are stated publicly, as The Post has done with its slogan, “Democracy Dies in Darkness.” Sometimes, the language used in news stories also can reflect such values.

“I don’t want to throw labels like ‘racist’ or ‘lying’ around *****-nilly, the evidence should be high,” Joseph Kahn, executive editor of the New York Times, told us. “But I think it’s true that, when the evidence is there, we should not default to some mealy-mouthed, so-called neutral language that some people see this as a falsehood, while others do not. When the evidence is there, we should be clear and direct with our audience that we don’t think there are multiple sides to this question, this is a falsehood. And the person repeating this falsehood over and over is guilty of lying.”

Newer, nonprofit news organizations often have launched with stated missions. The national digital news site the 19th, for example, aims to “elevate voices of women, people of color, and the LGBTQ+ community.”

Elizabeth Green, co-founder and chief executive of Chalkbeat, whose news websites across the country cover education, said it adopted antiracism as a core value. “We talk about it a lot,” she told us. “Is this what an antiracist news organization would do?”

Should journalists go outside their organizations to express their own opinions on social media or take part in advocacy or protests? In these rapidly changing times, it has become a difficult question to answer.

“You can’t be an activist and be a Times journalist at the same time,” Kahn said flatly. “All of our newsroom journalists should act as if they are representing the institution that they’re working for when they’re making public comments about major issues in the news.”

Noah Oppenheim, the president of NBC News, pointed out that there are many ways to influence people and leaders, and journalism is one of them. “Our position is that, if you choose journalism as your route, you are giving up some other options that are available to the general public,” he said.

At the Los Angeles Times, Merida is open to the possibility that reporters might cover issues on which they actively engage. “We’re trying to find that line,” he said. “We’re trying to create an environment in which we don’t police our journalists too much. Our young people want to be participants in the world.”

Both Heyward and I continue to believe that allowing journalists to express opinions on controversial social and political issues erodes the perception of their news organizations’ fairness and open-mindedness. As representatives of news outlets, they give up some personal rights to free expression. But some mission-driven operations might well choose to allow social media and political activity with their core values. It’s best for each newsroom to have a clear and consistent policy.

We urge news organizations to, first, strive not just for accuracy based on verifiable facts, but also for truth — what Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward have called “the best obtainable version of the truth.” This means original journalism that includes investigating and reporting on all aspects of American life.

Newsroom staff diversity should reflect the communities being covered — not just gender and ethnic diversity, but also diversity of economic, educational, geographic and social backgrounds. Inclusive newsrooms should encourage their journalists to speak up and be heard by their colleagues and leaders in making decisions about coverage.

News media should also be as transparent as possible about their newsgathering decisions and processes. When possible, they should hire or designate an editor to field and act on reader complaints and questions.

Responsible news organizations need to develop core values by having candid, inclusive and open conversations. Making these values public could well forge a stronger connection between journalists and the public.

One essential value for all Americans is the survival of democratic institutions, which are under attack on multiple fronts. Trustworthy journalism by a new generation of journalists and newsroom leaders can ensure that the news media continues to do its part to protect democracy.
I personally hope these news outlets continue to push their agenda, and they can end up exactly like CNN.



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I know it shouldn't surprise me, but it still surprises me to see that 80ish%+ of viewership of TV news stations is 55+.
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Originally Posted by golftdibrad
Teaching, mentoring, star gazing, etc.
I was reading Joe's post and thought the same thing: in his elder years, he should focus on passing on some knowledge to youth.
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https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-23-105348.pdf

The Government Accountability Office argues that school dress codes can make students “unsafe” and can further racism and various alphabetphobias. They are urging the Department of Education to do something about the inequities school uniform policies create.
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******* climate change.









Nela Richardson, ADP Chief Economist blames it on the weather, noting that employment was soft during our Jan. 12 reference week as the U.S. was hit with extreme weather. California was coping with record floods and back-to-back storms delivered ice and snow to the central and eastern U.S.
"In January, we saw the impact of weather-related disruptions on employment during our reference week. Hiring was stronger during other weeks of the month, in line with the strength we saw late last year."

Despite the massive layoffs from big-tech, ADP reports that LARGE COMANIES WERE THE ONLY ONES TO ADD JOBS in January!

Despite the massive layoffs from big-tech, ADP reports that INFORMATION FIRMS ADDED 5k jobs.

Despite homebuilder confidence and stock prices soaring, ADP reports that CONSTRUCTION JOBS CRASHED.

The MidWest saw the largest number of job losses... did the weather cause professional sunbathers to suddenly become unemployed?
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breaking news from the best economy in history front:

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thanks NPR, really breaking the hard hitting post-objective news.

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meanwhile:

https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/report...nography-case/

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x-ABC News reporter James Gordon Meek hit with child pornography chargex-ABC News reporter James Gordon Meek hit with child pornography charge

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"News of the federal raid on Meek’s address touched off a number of news articles and speculation that he may have been targeted because of his work as an investigative reporter. "

Uh, who the **** cares? The only targeting I care about in his future comes from a group of surly inmates who catch wind of his opinion on raping toddlers.
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lol. speaking of made-up bullshit:


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got ourselves an uncle tom over here.



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