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Old 05-08-2023, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Ok, allow me to re-phrase the question in a broader light:

Do you believe that there is some definable quantity of evidence of wrongdoing (bribery, kickbacks, etc) by any party which, if reached, will result in criminal prosecution of the current president?

Bombshell News on Joe Biden Is Coming: ‘Do Not Indict Hunter Biden Before Wednesday,’ Says Comer

Ask me after Wednesday.
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Report: DOJ Ignored Bribery Allegation Against Joe Biden in 2018

The fix is in...According to the New York Post, the second accusation of bribery against Joe Biden pertains to Hunter Biden’s position on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy firm.
Bud Cummins, a former federal prosecutor, first reported the bribery allegations to then-New York US Attorney Geoff Berman on Oct. 4, 2018, in an email claiming he had evidence that Joe Biden had “exercised influence to protect” his son’s Ukrainian employer “in exchange for payments to Hunter Biden, Devon Archer, and Joe Biden.”

In the email obtained by John Solomon’s Just The News, Cummins said that Ukraine’s then-Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko wanted to travel to the United States to meet Berman, and could produce two “John Doe” witnesses to corroborate his claims about the Bidens.
Berman never responded to the email, and instead, on Dec. 9, 2019, during the impeachment proceedings against President Donald Trump, federal prosecutors secretly acquired data from Cummins’ iPhone through a grand jury subpoena to Apple, which Cummins believes was an act of “retaliation.”
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Apparently bank proof showing that Biden took $1 million+ from a Romanian real estate tycoon while he was VP will be revealed tomorrow at 9am, Eastern.

Coming tomorrow, apparently...
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So, this has happened, as most people know:




I would argue that putting AI in charge of Kamala Harris might be a safer course of action.
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The Woke: White privilege causes the wage gap.

Feminists: Male privilege causes the wage gap.

Asian Women: What wage gap?



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Reminds me of a video I saw long ago in which a dude on a crotch-rocket pulled into a parking lot and someone tried to rob him. Not with a gun or a sword or anything, but with a wooden baseball bat.

Tried to rob a guy wearing a full helmet, body armor, and gloves with carbon-kevlar knuckles.

With a bat.

It didn't go well.
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At worst, Hunter Biden will get some tax fraud charge that results in nothing, and the Ice Cream Czar will face zero charges or repercussions. It'll be out of the news by this time next week.
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At worst, Hunter Biden will get some tax fraud charge that results in nothing, and the Ice Cream Czar will face zero charges or repercussions. It'll be out of the news by this time next week.
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It is now after Wednesday, so I'm asking whether you believe that there is some definable quantity of evidence of wrongdoing (bribery, kickbacks, etc) by any party which, if reached, will result in criminal prosecution of the current president?
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
It is now after Wednesday, so I'm asking whether you believe that there is some definable quantity of evidence of wrongdoing (bribery, kickbacks, etc) by any party which, if reached, will result in criminal prosecution of the current president?
Dude the government investigated itself and found no wrongdoing. All is well on Earth.
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Originally Posted by Stock
Dude the government investigated itself and found no wrongdoing. All is well on Earth.
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Seems like the same old story, again and again in here lately.

"Just wait until evidence of X is released! Then they'll get him!"

(time passes. no one gets got)

"Well, that's just because [the govt / the mainstream media] is deliberately [ignoring / covering up] the real evidence!"

And, yeah, I grant you that's probably true. But it was also true the last hundred times, so why do some folks keep expecting that the next time is going to be different?

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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Seems like the same old story, again and again in here lately.

"Just wait until evidence of X is released! Then they'll get him!"

(time passes. no one gets got)

"Well, that's just because [the govt / the mainstream media] is deliberately [ignoring / covering up] the real evidence!"

And, yeah, I grant you that's probably true. But it was also true the last hundred times, so why do some folks keep expecting that the next time is going to be different?
Agreed, we should all lose hope and stop caring.
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Agreed, we should all lose hope and stop caring.



In all seriousness, though, there are several options here.

Giving up and not caring is one.

Continuing to believe that the same old politicians who have been lying, stealing, and cheating all their lives will suddenly act ethically and responsibly is another.

A third would be for we the people to come to our senses and stop voting for the same old democrats and republicans in every election cycle.



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Originally Posted by Joe Perez



In all seriousness, though, there are several options here.

Giving up and not caring is one.

Continuing to believe that the same old politicians who have been lying, stealing, and cheating all their lives will suddenly act ethically and responsibly is another.

A third would be for we the people to come to our senses and stop voting for the same old democrats and republicans in every election cycle.
Thinking that a third party will ever platform a viable presidential alternative candidate is just a naive as your other two options. IMO, of course.
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Thinking that a third party will ever platform a viable presidential alternative candidate is just a naive as your other two options. IMO, of course.
The US did not settle down into the "You're either Democrat or Republican" binary until the mid 19th century. We had Whigs, Nationalists, Federalists, National Unions... And those are just the ones who actually won the election and sat in the oval office.

Heck, until 1828, Democrat and Republican were the same party. It was hyphenated Democratic-Republican, and was the banner under which Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe and John Quincy Adams all ran.

The only reason we've settled down into Democrat v. Republican is because it's a nice, neat binary which allows people to think "our party ultimate good, their party ultimate bad." We as Americans have lost our taste for subtlety and complexity in national politics.

The Republicans and the Democrats know this, and encourage such thinking for their own benefit.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
The US did not settle down into the "You're either Democrat or Republican" binary until the mid 19th century. We had Whigs, Nationalists, Federalists, National Unions... And those are just the ones who actually won the election and sat in the oval office.

Heck, until 1828, Democrat and Republican were the same party. It was hyphenated Democratic-Republican, and was the banner under which Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe and John Quincy Adams all ran.

The only reason we've settled down into Democrat v. Republican is because it's a nice, neat binary which allows people to think "our party ultimate good, their party ultimate bad." We as Americans have lost our taste for subtlety and complexity in national politics.

The Republicans and the Democrats know this, and encourage such thinking for their own benefit.
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If 10% of the voting population could be convinced to just not vote for the incumbent in the next federal election we would get 400+ new people in the house, a third of the senate, and a new president.
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Joe P says a third party (or more) will solve the corruption in politics/government. My cynicism says that's the most naive thing he's ever said. My cynicism also says, what's the point of becoming a politician if not for all the bribes and kickbacks, other than all the benefits of course- power, interns, free healthcare, etc. For that matter, even being a judge. I mean how do these guys live the lifestyle they lead making the money they do as a judge? Yes, I know, consulting, which is another way of saying bribes/kickbacks.

So, even if there were such a thing as an honest politician, the system of corruption in place would take care of that. As long as the fox is in charge of the hen house, us chickens are gonna kept getting eaten, no matter how many new foxes or packs of foxes there are.

I don't even claim to have a solution but I would predict the outcome will be some type of tyranny will come out of this in the following decades. Whether global or national I don't know. And then of course the natural cycle of proles fighting for their freedom, establishing some sort of democracy, corruption of the democracy, and so on and so on.

The only thing that would stop this cycle is if the proles who fight for their freedom never forget how they got their freedom in the first place: by not giving in to the government and thinking they have the answers to all the problems they create.
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