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Old 06-21-2023, 03:47 PM
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Was forwarded to me by a great friend. Haven't had the time to watch the whole thing, only up to the part I watched to recommend to JoeP. So, JoeP, make sure to at least watch the part at around 9:45 about nucular (ok, nuclear) energy. He at least may get your vote on that.

But he says all the right things so far and I totally agree at least up to about the 10 minute mark.
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Originally Posted by hector
So, JoeP, make sure to at least watch the part at around 9:45 about nucular (ok, nuclear) energy. He at least may get your vote on that.
I'm registered as a democrat in Illinois, not because I actually tend to vote for democrats in the general elections, but because, knowing that my electoral vote is going to wind up going to a democrat anyway (because Chicago), I at least get to have a say as to which democrat that is.

Previously, I'd have said that seeing any brown person show up on a Republican ticket was an inherently good thing, as it means that the far-left would have to mentally justify voting against them. But there's been enough Clarence Thomas **** over the past year that I feel we've moved past that.

Ramaswamy's positions on pretty much everything (other than abortion) make him a superficially ideal candidate in my book. That's before I've even listened to whatever he has to say about nuclear energy.

But the reality is that Ramaswamy is not Trump, and at this point, I don't see Trump losing the 2024 Republican primary to anyone other than The Resurrected Lord Jesus Christ Himself.

(And even then it'd be a close one.)
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Old 06-21-2023, 05:06 PM
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I'm registered as a democrat in Illinois, not because I actually tend to vote for democrats in the general elections, but because, knowing that my electoral vote is going to wind up going to a democrat anyway (because Chicago), I at least get to have a say as to which democrat that is.

Previously, I'd have said that seeing any brown person show up on a Republican ticket was an inherently good thing, as it means that the far-left would have to mentally justify voting against them. But there's been enough Clarence Thomas **** over the past year that I feel we've moved past that.

Ramaswamy's positions on pretty much everything (other than abortion) make him a superficially ideal candidate in my book. That's before I've even listened to whatever he has to say about nuclear energy.

But the reality is that Ramaswamy is not Trump, and at this point, I don't see Trump losing the 2024 Republican primary to anyone other than The Resurrected Lord Jesus Christ Himself.

(And even then it'd be a close one.)
The brown quip is so funny. The party that freed the slaves by some dude from Illinois will forever be racist bigots, because.

And if JC ran as a democrat he’d probably get the Bernie Sanders treatment.

edit--because of HIS stance on abortion...

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Old 06-21-2023, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Ramaswamy's positions on pretty much everything, make him a superficially ideal candidate in my book.
And that's the reality of it all. What they say is never what they do.
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Old 06-21-2023, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hector
And that's the reality of it all. What they say is never what they do.
Au contraire. Trump isn't the front-runner because of his genial disposition. It's because he actually did what he said he would. As for Ramaswamy, It's pretty impressive to be 37 and a self-made millionaire. 600 times over.
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Originally Posted by cordycord
Au contraire. Trump isn't the front-runner because of his genial disposition. It's because he actually did what he said he would.
Like nearly all politicians, Trump delivered on some of his campaign promises, changes his mind on others, and quickly discovered that he'd massively over-promised on the rest.

Yes, there were some tax cuts. Although my own personal Federal income taxes went up, because of the cap on state & local income tax deductions. (And, as I am in the top 6% of individual income in the US, and the top 15% by household income, I'm ostensibly one of the "rich" people who are supposed to benefit the most from Republican tax policy.)

He withdrew from the Paris accord, packed the Supreme Court with conservative-leaning justices, and increased military spending (that last one is not a bonus in my book.)

On the other hand, Obamacare remains un-repealed, The Wall (what little of it got built) remains un-paid-for by Mexico, China remains China, the National Debt soared by about 1/3 during his four years in office (as opposed to being eliminated), and roughly 267,000 illegal immigrants were deported in 2019 (Trump's highest year) vs. 410,000 in 2012 (Obama's highest year.)

Trump isn't a magical being. And while he talks tough, his overall record on keeping promises is only marginally better than average.

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How much you wanna bet that dude uses a single, all-in-one body wash / shampoo / car polish, and yet his hair still looks more amazing than women who have seventeen different products cluttering up the shower.
I believe it as a long-haired man, myself. Because men don't **** with our hair. My girlfriend regularly has to get salon help to rejuvenate hers, because like a lot of women: she's constantly messing with it. Although I'm due for a trim soon because i'm starting to get a little scraggly but that's the nature of hair exposed to the elements. it gets damaged and frizzy hahaha.
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Old 06-22-2023, 04:32 AM
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I'm always hesitant to vote Republican for a number of reasons (namely they can't let go of what Abraham Lincoln did 160 years ago, and subsequently ignore the ideological party shift during the 20th century). I'm a bit of an oddball to Americans because their perception of what "leftist" means is very confused compared to the reality of what it really means. But Ramaswamy has some respectable positions. You won't get that kind of concession from a liberal, so take that for what it is. Personally I don't think any of American politicians go far enough in regards to societal freedoms, so it's honestly hard to find myself at the polls, much less discussing politics recently. But I did wanna chime in and say Ramaswamy was refreshing, given where I stand politically. I thoroughly revile Trump as a person and as a president, but Ramaswamy reminds me of when political discourse was at least useful. I won't get my hopes up that the GOP would allow him to get in a viable positions.

Also: I 100% contend with the idea us leftists have any issue voting against POC. We have ideological differences with most conservatives on a lot of things and remain pretty consistent on that. the ones who are having their brains short circuited are specifically liberals, because they don't have any logical motivations. Their entire platform is built on half-*** compromises they think will make us all happy, when all they do is **** *everyone* off. I may find myself in opposition with the GOP on a lot, but at least they're honest with what they're after. I know at the end of the day they're gonna disagree with me on economics, abortion, and immigration. I never know what the **** I'm getting myself into with a liberal besides the fact they wanna disarm everyone except the alphabet boys.
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Originally Posted by hraday93
Also: I 100% contend with the idea us leftists have any issue voting against POC.
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Originally Posted by cordycord
edit--because of HIS stance on abortion...
To the best of my knowledge, Jesus is not quoted anywhere in any interpretation of the Christian bible as addressing the subject of abortion. What little the bible has to say on that subject comes from the old testament.


Numbers 5:11-31 gives a recipe for a potion which is intended to induce chemical abortion in any woman who has become pregnant by a man other than her husband. It is intended to be made and administered by a priest, while reciting the following incantation: “May the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells and your womb miscarries.”


As to the value of the life of an unborn child, Exodus 21:22 values it at a monetary fine: "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine." It goes on to clarify that if the woman dies, then it's life for life. So, clearly a substantial difference between an unborn fetus and a living human.


It's presently fashionable amongst evangelical Christians to claim that abortion is murder because life begins at conception. But the bible actually contradicts this belief. It repeats, over and over, that life begins when breath enters the body:

Genesis 2:7 "Then the Lord God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being."

Genesis 6:17 "Behold, I, even I am bringing the flood of water upon the earth, to destroy all flesh in which is the breath of life"

Genesis 7:22 "Of all that was on the dry land, all in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, died."

Job 33:4 “The Spirit of God has made me, And the breath of the Almighty gives me life."

Ezekiel 37:5 "Thus says the Lord God to these bones, ‘Behold, I will cause breath to enter you that you may come to life'."

Revelation 11:11 "But after the three and a half days, the breath of life from God came into them, and they stood on their feet; and great fear fell upon those who were watching them."



So... yeah. Regardless of what the Church has to say, I can find absolutely zero backing in the relevant texts to support the assertion that an unborn fetus is a living human. And much which contradicts it.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
Hmm. This doesn't entirely make sense in the context of what I said, so I think it furthers my point about people conflating liberals with leftists lol. They aren't the same thing. And besides liberals don't "worship" minorities and the LGBTQ community, they pander to them for control then betray working class interests anyway haha. America feels like a theocracy to him, because John Doyle belongs to a line of thinking that insists on using religion as a point of contention at almost every facet of our lives except when it actually benefits the collective. So when people are tired of dealing with it and want some breathing room, he and everyone in his demographic feel like they're the ones being pressed.

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Back-stabbers of the world united for Trump. Or should I say "uniparty members?"
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There is a Bill in the house to rename street in DC that passes by the Chinese embassy: “Tiananmen Square Memorial Boulevard.”
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There is a Bill in the house to rename street in DC that passes by the Chinese embassy: “Tiananmen Square Memorial Boulevard.”
That's both hilarious and also likely counter-productive.

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