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Old 07-17-2013, 11:08 AM   #601
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Also if you're quoting NOFX, then:

You point your ******' finger
You racist, you bigot
But that's not the problem
Now is it?
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it's all about the money, political power...

but more importantly...

HOW DID THE CAT GET SO FAT?
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Because no one has heard of this case, and/or really cares:

John Spooner trial: Darius Simmons's mother describes watching neighbour 'shoot dead her black son' | Mail Online
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poor mother
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I am 100% ok with that guy being charged with murder for shooting the teen. He was not on the ground getting his head beat in.
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I am 100% ok with that guy being charged with murder for shooting the teen. He was not on the ground getting his head beat in.
I agree. That case is pretty much cold blooded murder. People are really messed up.
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yeah, after reading that article that **** sucks...
also **** an insanity plea. but that's another thread for another time.
dude straight up shot the kid from what seems like a pretty short range because the old **** was suspicious the kid stole ****?

jesus, i have a ******* hunch that scott is stealing my cats. i confront him. he denies it. then i shoot him.

dafuq?
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Well, scott probably did steal your cats.
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that's not all i stole.
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That Spooner trial seems almost completely unrelated to the Zimmerman case.
The shocking account came in the second day of Spooner's trial as jurors watched footage from the elderly man's own surveillance video, which showed him confronting Simmons on the sidewalk outside their houses, pointing a gun at the teen's chest and firing from just a few feet away.

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In the surveillance footage, Spooner emerges from his house that morning and confronts Simmons.

He points a gun at the boy, who quickly moves backward a few steps. Both Spooner and the teen direct their attention toward a porch at Simmons' home, where Simmons' mother is standing.

Moments later, Spooner points the gun back at Simmons and fires, hitting him in the chest.

As the teen stumbles and runs away, Spooner fires a second shot that misses him.
Here, you have at least one eyewitness, surveillance video, and no physical confrontation. That is totally different.

Meanwhile, I like how the article throws this in:
Some have likened the shooting of Simmons as 'vigilantism and rogue police behavior' and similar to the killing in Florida of Trayvon Martin.

In both cases, an older man allegedly killed a black teen because the shooter believed they were suspicious.
WTF? No. In one case, a 76 year old man shot a 13 year old because he thought he stole something from him. In the other case, a 32 year old shot a 17 year old because the teen was on top of him, breaking his nose and hitting his skull on the concrete sidewalk.

I am now convinced that the first case is exactly what all of the "Justice Revenge for Trayvon" folks believe happened in the Zimmerman case.
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leave it to the media...
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Meanwhile, I like how the article throws this in:
Some have likened the shooting of Simmons as 'vigilantism and rogue police behavior' and similar to the killing in Florida of Trayvon Martin.

In both cases, an older man allegedly killed a black teen because the shooter believed they were suspicious.
WTF? ... I am now convinced that the first case is exactly what all of the "Justice Revenge for Trayvon" folks believe happened in the Zimmerman case.
The various media editors-in-chief are doing this not because they have a personal agenda, but because it sells. </sarcasm>
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These guys expose the liberal bias in the media:

NewsBusters | Exposing Liberal Media Bias

However, they don't bother to show Fox news lies and distortions.
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However, they don't bother to show Fox news lies and distortions.
Would make some interesting reading. Link please.
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Who needs to follow laws and procedures in a court of law? Laws are just a bunch of bureaucratic red tape laid out by the white man to keep street law from being efficient as it can be.

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Would make some interesting reading. Link please.
Well here are pro FOX articles:

Gallup: Fox Is America's Main Source For News | NewsBusters

Elisabeth Hasselbeck Leaving 'The View' for Fox News Channel | NewsBusters
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That's funny, when i wrote this:

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I love how Juan Williams wrote an op-ed about all the show-trial-racist stuff, then got pissed last night because there was no justice for Trayvon and the jury didn't use their hearts when deciding GZ's fate.
I was referring that interview, but I turned it off before I heard LT speak, I couldn't stand Juan's take on the verdict after reading his piece.

This is the piece I was talking about: 'Crackers,' a 'teenage mammy' -- the sorry truth about race and Zimmerman trial | Fox News

So, while he complains that the media doesn't give a "straight, objective coverage of any story," he also complains when a jury gives a straight, objective verdict based on law.
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another read:

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...In the golden age of racial demagoguery, they came at a pace of about one a year. Al Sharpton was usually involved.

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Whenever a much-celebrated claim of racism turned out to be false -- which was almost always -- you'd just stop hearing about it. There would never be a clippable story admitting that the media's harrumphing had been in error: Attention, readers! That story we've been howling about for several months turned out to be a complete fraud.

A little time would pass, and then we'd get an all-new, excited "America is still racist" media campaign. Journalists are incapable of learning that they should get all the facts before launching moral crusades.

As a result, the official record shows: A few hate crimes and some unverified hate crimes with no clear resolution one way or another. As long as the fraudulent hate crimes didn't get counted as strikeouts, liberals always looked like Ted Williams.

Since they didn't keep an accurate batting average, I did it for them in Mugged.

The case most like George Zimmerman's is the Edmund Perry case. In 1985, Perry, a black teenager from Harlem who had just graduated from Phillips Exeter Academy, mugged a guy who turned out to be an undercover cop. He got shot and a few hours later was dead.

Instead of waiting for the facts, the media rushed out with a story about Officer Lee Van Houten being a trigger-happy, racist cop. When that turned out to be false, The New York Times looked at its shoes. It was the kind of story the elites wanted to be true. It should be true. We had such high hopes for that one. Damn!

The initial news accounts stressed not only that Perry was a graduate of Exeter on his way to Stanford, but that he was unarmed. (In all white-on-black shootings, the media expect the white to have RoboCop-like superpowers to detect any weapons on the perp as well as his resume.)

A few weeks after the shooting, The New York Times called Perry "a prized symbol of hope." In a telling bit of obtuseness, The Times said that "all New Yorkers have extraordinary reasons to wish for the innocence of the young man who was killed." I doubt very much that the cop being accused of being a murderous racist hoped for that.

An article in The Village Voice explained: "[L]ike so many other victims in this city," Perry was "just too black for his own good."

Luckily for the policeman, Perry had mugged him in a well-lit hospital parking lot. Twenty-three witnesses backed the officer's story in testimony to the grand jury. (Unlike Zimmerman, Van Houten's case was at least presented to a grand jury.)

As I wrote in "Mugged": "God help Officer Van Houten if he had been mugged someplace other than a hospital parking lot with plenty of witnesses." Such as, for example, a dark pathway in The Retreat at Twin Lakes. There weren't 23 witnesses backing Zimmerman's story, only about a half-dozen. But, as with Van Houten, the evidence overwhelmingly corroborated Zimmerman's story.

In Van Houten's case, even after it was blindingly clear that Perry had mugged him, the truth was only revealed amid great sorrow. When the facts were unknown, the cop was a racist. When it turned out Perry had mugged the cop, it was no one's fault, but a problem of "violence," "confusion" and "two worlds" colliding.

Perhaps, someday, blacks will win the right to be treated like volitional human beings. But not yet.

As with Zimmerman's case this week, some journalists pretended to have missed the court proceedings that supported the self-defense story. Even after the grand jury's refusal to indict Van Houten, Dorothy J. Gaiter of the Miami Herald wrote about Perry in an article titled "To Be Black and Male Is Dangerous in U.S." She asked: "How do you teach a boy to be a man in a society where others may view him as a threat just because he is black?"

Van Houten said he was jumped, knocked to the ground, punched and kicked by Edmund Perry. Grand jury witnesses backed his story. Isn't it possible that Van Houten saw Perry as a threat for reasons other than "just because he is black"?

(And please stop talking about Martin's "hoodie"! Zimmerman wasn't worried about the hoodie; he was worried about being beaten to death.)

Instead of turning every story about a black person killed by a white person into an occasion to announce, "The simple fact is, America is a racist society," liberals might, one time, ask the question: Why do you suppose there would be a generalized fear of young black males? What might that be based on?

Throw us a bone. It's because a disproportionate number of criminals are young black males. It just happens that when Lee Van Houten and George Zimmerman were mugged by two of them, they survived the encounter.
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Never thought I would agree with Tavis Smiley, but I would add two words to his comment near the end of the interview; make that "arm every (law abiding) black man"........ and crime would trend down right away.

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