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Old 07-03-2013, 10:48 AM   #421
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I'm still trying to figure out how the prosecution intends to show how SYG applies here. The media went apeshit over it, and still continues to, but you can't apply it to either version of events.
I agree and I believe if the state had gone with a lesser charge they could have made I stick but going for murder two was a big stretch.
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:15 PM   #422
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sorry for the late reply, this was funny:



they were trying to skype a witness and he got bombed.
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:34 PM   #423
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more show trial:



this guy is outside the courthouse.
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:54 PM   #424
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state is planning to rest today.
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:58 PM   #425
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Ha. so the state called in another medical examiner who performed the autopsy and the defense is currently crossing.

he kept reading from a prepared statement.

the defense was able to get the notes from him and read through them.

During which, they started whispering and smiling and the Doc yelled out from the stand: Is there something funny to you?!

Then the defense asked for a copy of it and he yelled out: no they are mine you cannot have.

this guy is great. very arrogant, can barely speak english well.

he refused to confirm a timeline of how long between the shooting and him performing the autopsy. in the official report, part of the team wrote down when the recovered the body and in the report the time the autopsy was performed was noted, but this guy refused to say yes, it was X hours between events, because he wasn't there and didn't want to lie under oath. silly guy.

he testified that he could not remember the autopsy at all, he has zero recollection of the event, and has to solely rely on his notes. and he also stated: i don't think anyone can remember anything from two years ago.

the defense is making him sound like a whacko.


oh yeah, he also claimed that anyone working for him who would have brought him evidence in a seal plastic bag should be fired.





...the clothing was brought to him in a seal plastic bag.

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Old 07-05-2013, 01:24 PM   #426
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the step-brother testified that at first he had doubts it was trayvon's voice.

notes: the whole family was played the tape at the Major's office. They were all told that Trayvon's voice may be on the tape, and after they first heard it, they all claimed doubts. There was no police presence in the room plus the group environment plus the fact that they were called in by the major to listen so the political implications, and then the fact they all changed their claims to collaborate after the 'no justice, no peace' movement formed around the case, is very suspect.

The State's own voice expert said that a group bias is a VERY bad thing and hurts results.
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Old 07-05-2013, 01:30 PM   #427
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oh yeah, and this medical guy, said that trayvon was probably alive for maybe 10-15 minutes after being shot.

this, again, collaborated GZ's statements. and again, this was a State's witness.
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man this judge is completely biased to the State. omfg.

They are discussing a possible Richardson violation in the case. (basically a discovery violation, that the state didn't give the defense some information from this witness)

the judge found there was no violation, i think there was. This guy basically changed two opinions from that of his disposition and claims he told anyone about it until today in court.

also this guy has just testified that the levels of marijuana in TM's system probably had a mental effect on him, but the judge will still not allow the jury to hear anything about toxicology in TM, however she allowed the doctor to claim TM was suffering for about 10-15 minutes after being shot, and allowed things into GZ's past that were not relevant.

The Judge will NOT allow the jury to hear this.
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best quote to date: If someone never changes opinion, you can call them mentally retarded...
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good witness for the defense right now. close friend of zimmerman, old guy, served in nam. was a medic and testified how he aided man men who were screaming in pain in need of help of a medic and could recognize them individually after spending much time with these men; He claims the voice for help is GZ (among many others called today).
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cliffs from monday:

The defense had about 7 witnesses that claimed the voice calling for help was GZ.

They also had two police officers testify that TM's father first said it was not TM yelling for help.

The judge reversed her decision about the toxicology report in lieu of the ME's testimony that the amount of substance in TM's body had some sort of effect on him. I bet the State is REALLY happy they called this witness for no reason.
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You missed the testimony from Zimmerman's personal trainer who basically took the stand and talked about how much of a pansy he is and how he is soft and weak. That was my favorite highlight.
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oh yeah.

it wasn't soft and weak, it was soft and fat.

on a scale of 1-10, he gave him a 0.5 in terms of his overall athleticism.
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Here's how the state is going to prove GZ acted in ill-will:

is left-handed and shoots with his right
would not have invited TM to dinner
had his gun chambered
bought a gun without external safeties
went to the gym to lose about 80-100lbs.
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GZ's current expert expert is very good both for the defense and on cross. the state cannot trip him up.
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everyone knows it was political. they were putting people on the stand from the major's office to ask why the major was playing the police recording to the Martin family, I have a feeling he might be able to sue the state for grievances; he deserves it if acquitted. He sounded like a really nice guy, who wanted to get into law enforcement and just do good and make a better life for himself (e.g., lost 100lbs. by going to the gym).
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judge ruled against the defense allowed to play a recreation amination of the scuffle and the cell phone texts/video/pictures recovered from TM's phone.
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judge ruled against the defense allowed to play a recreation amination of the scuffle and the cell phone texts/video/pictures recovered from TM's phone.

Fine bye me! The only good work seen on the prosecution side was the hearing on admissibility of the recreation. They would have torn it apart in front of the jury.
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