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Old 07-14-2013, 11:16 AM
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I like what Stefan Molyneux wrote, about the media's blatant race-baiting:

A little article I'm working on, I'd really love some feedback before finishing it...

Responses to questions about George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin.
Two days ago, I published a video detailing largely unknown facts about the trial of George Zimmerman for the death of Trayvon Martin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF-Ax5E8EJc
Tonight, Sunday, 14 July 2013, as of 10 PM EST, the jury has agreed with my assessment and found him not guilty on all counts.

Before the verdict was returned, I received a large number of powerful, passionate, interesting and critical questions regarding my video, which I will attempt to answer here. As usual, I will do my best to make my answer is as relevant to future situations as possible, since we surely have not seen the last of this kind of disaster circus.

Before we get to the questions, however, there are a few additional thoughts I would like to share about this whole mess.

The “Child” Victim?
Referring to Trayvon Martin, who was 17, as a “child,” is lowlife propaganda at its most obvious. Can you imagine a 17-year-old actor being referred to as a “child actor”? Given that most teenagers are allowed to drive at the age of 16, have you ever seen an article referring to the modern horror of allowing children to get behind the wheels of cars? You can join the US military at the age of 17 with signed parental consent, have you seen many articles raging against the practice of the US army in recruiting children as soldiers? When a 17-year-old Onar Åmerican soldier is killed overseas, did you see articles reporting the death of a child?

Of course not – the word is only used to inflame prejudice and provoke base-of-the-brain parental protection instincts.

The “Unarmed” Victim?
With dull, monotonous, metronome repetition, the mainstream media refers to Martin as “unarmed.” Only hyper-liberal victim mongers completely unaware of the reality of gun ownership would imagine that the word “unarmed” somehow invalidates shooting an attacker in self-defense, or that the word “unarmed” somehow translates into “harmless.”
One of the main purposes of gun ownership is to protect yourself from people who are going to attack you without a gun. I mean, come on, just think about it for a moment – how many people buy a handgun to protect themselves from snipers? Well, no one, because if someone is going to shoot you from a distance, without warning, your handgun isn’t going to do much to protect you, now is it?

If Trayvon Martin was in possession of the handgun he was reportedly trying to acquire, and if he had decided to kill George Zimmerman, he would have shot him from the bushes, without warning, and Zimmerman’s gun would have done nothing to help or save him.

So yes, Martin was in fact unarmed. So was Mike Tyson when he bit someone’s ear off. So were Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy and Richard Speck - all serial killers who didn’t use guns. So were the little old lady poisoners in the movie “Arsenic and Old Lace.” So what? Self-defense does not require that your attacker be armed with a gun, a hand grenade, a rocket launcher, a bag of killer bees or have the ability to call in an airstrike. It only requires that you believe with reasonable justification that you are in imminent danger of severe bodily harm or death.

And, if memory serves, the capacity of human beings to cause bodily harm to each other did not magically appear with the first handgun.
As propaganda goes, the worst part about it is that it’s also pathetically transparent. Personally, I prefer my neurolinguistic programming just a little bit more sophisticated. This stuff is all sort of on the level of “monkey want a banana?”
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Old 07-14-2013, 11:22 AM
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The roots of the mass media's divisive attacks on overblown racism, anti-feminism and all other -ism's go back to the early 20th Century's *Frankfurt School*, where social engineers learned to abandon economic Marxism and move to social issues. Typical statist mentality to know "what's best" for everyone else:

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Everyone remember this case?

Black Man Shoots And Kills Unarmed Hispanic Florida Teen, Claims Felt Threatened, No Witnesses – NO CHARGES BROUGHT « Pat Dollard
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I love how Juan Williams wrote an op-ed about all the show-trial-racist stuff, then got pissed last night because there was no justice for Trayvon and the jury didn't use their hearts when deciding GZ's fate.
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I'm so glad Florida is keeping it's **** together.
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I should link a picture of a few things on my timeline. A few of my black friends said that the jury tried the evidence and that the decision should be respected. 73 comments later most of their family and other black friends along with some white guilt subscribers pretty much dismissed them as terrible people.
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It happened in Oakland. I am not surprised at all.
Yeah, ya gotta know Oakland for that to make sense. Gertrude Stein famously observed 1937: "There is no there there."

Reporting "Riots in Oakland" is kind of like reporting "Snow in Michigan!" Nobody is really surprised.
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Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
The roots of the mass media's divisive attacks on overblown racism, anti-feminism and all other -ism's go back to the early 20th Century's *Frankfurt School*, where social engineers learned to abandon economic Marxism and move to social issues. Typical statist mentality to know "what's best" for everyone else:
Are there only particular schools in which this happens?

I'm just curious because I received my BA in Journalism and this brainwashing of journalists into liberal fear mongers is patently false from my personal experience.

However, journalism does tend to attract people who already have an agenda.

Why else would you go to college to get a degree for a job that barely pays above the poverty level?
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
I'm just curious because I received my BA in Journalism and this brainwashing of journalists into liberal fear mongers is patently false from my personal experience.
Did they try to teach you that Kant was God in any sort of "Ethics" in Journalism class?
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Originally Posted by Braineack
Did they try to teach you that Kant was God in any sort of "Ethics" in Journalism class?
Nope.

I vaguely remember something of that nature from my Philosophy minor, but the majority of that work was done with a THC fogged brain.

Yes, I know I was worthless in college.
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They pushed Kant on me; that's when I finally started to see the light; that and my Human Sexuality class.
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Various individual who work in media may have their own specific biases, but as a whole, the only agenda which "the media" has is to make money by inflaming opinion via whatever means available, and then selling tickets to the show.
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Apparently the DOJ is reviewing the case, apparently they don't like when Obama's son's killer gets away on self-defense.

I mean, what better way to prove we are post-racial society than to make your administration the worst in race relations since the 50s?! Honestly, I wouldnt be surprised if Obama was secretly trying to repeal the 13th amendment, then blame it on Republicans, then win another peace prize.
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honestly, why is the president commenting on this?


The death of Trayvon Martin was a tragedy. Not just for his family, or for any one community, but for America. I know this case has elicited strong passions. And in the wake of the verdict, I know those passions may be running even higher. But we are a nation of laws, and a jury has spoken. I now ask every American to respect the call for calm reflection from two parents who lost their young son. And as we do, we should ask ourselves if we’re doing all we can to widen the circle of compassion and understanding in our own communities. We should ask ourselves if we’re doing all we can to stem the tide of gun violence that claims too many lives across this country on a daily basis. We should ask ourselves, as individuals and as a society, how we can prevent future tragedies like this. As citizens, that’s a job for all of us. That’s the way to honor Trayvon Martin.
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Brain, I realize you're being rhetorical, but you answered your own question.

You racist, upper-middle class..............sorry I've got nothing.
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Oakland pictures.
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Picture time because I am bored this morning.







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It's funny that they actually type like they talk. I caught myself reading it in "head bobbing black chick".
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Typing ebonics is the epitome ignorance.

But on the plus side, you can't misspell what isn't an actual word.
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