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Old 06-26-2012, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Orion ZyGarian View Post
But why would you prefer a tuning method that always makes less power and cant compensate for boost leaks?
because maf has better control over fuel mixture at different areas as long as the maf transfer function is tuned properly.
Good idle control, just set your commanded lambda you want. Very good driveablity compared to SD setups that I've done. For a daily driven car I rather use maf then SD.
depends on location of the maf.
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Originally Posted by Orion ZyGarian View Post
And your point is?
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^^^Turbo diesel! 1000 torques at 500 rpm is awesome!
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torque, i haz it.



vvt coming soon so I can spool EVEN FASTER.
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Originally Posted by Techsalvager View Post
Yeah so tune for gear you need to be in, 2nd and possibility 3rd for autocross
and check it on the road.
There is gonna be a difference in how much extra timing you can throw in at lower gears.
dude.
with the above dyno I posted, I spun 225 NT-01 in 2nd gear the whole straight at autocross. That's with 3.9 rear end and a 6 speed. You need like 275 slicks to do ANYTHING with that amount of torque in low gears.

4th gear rolls are great though
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Originally Posted by 18psi View Post
You say this, but have you driven said car?

I know some things sounds great in theory, but le suck in application.

Right now you have neither, so unless you've driven other cars, you have absolutely nothing to base your opinion off.
not sure if I awnsered this eariler.

335i test driven, very responsive oem car.
rx7 FD v8, very quick very fast, tq everywhere
I plan to test drive the merc c250 soon enough.

the 335i and the rx7 were awesome in application.
They would just go any any point in the powerband.
of course one is a inline 6 twin turbo the other is a v8 but my point still stands that the useful tq everwhere helps the car overall no matter where you are at.
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omg still full retard I see.

Yes, because a v8 rx7 and inline6 bimmer compare to a turbo miata
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Originally Posted by soviet View Post
torque, i haz it.



vvt coming soon so I can spool EVEN FASTER.
you did note I said 2k rpm I wanted to see near max tq?
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Originally Posted by Techsalvager View Post
not sure if I awnsered this eariler.

335i test driven, very responsive oem car.
rx7 FD v8, very quick very fast, tq everywhere
I plan to test drive the merc c250 soon enough.

the 335i and the rx7 were awesome in application.
They would just go any any point in the powerband.
of course one is a inline 6 twin turbo the other is a v8 but my point still stands that the useful tq everwhere helps the car overall no matter where you are at.
I think you're the first person in the history of the world to say that a rotary has torque, much less anywhere but 150000000000 rpm.
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V8 rx7 fd

v8 ls1
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Missed the v8 part. They fit in miatas too ya know.
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1) compound boosted direct injected inline 6
2) 5.7L v8

Yeah, you'll definitely replicate that with a 1.6 BP made 20+ years ago
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Originally Posted by Leafy View Post
Missed the v8 part. They fit in miatas too ya know.
I don't have interests in v8's
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the bmw is a parallel twin turbo inline 6
its not compound twin turbo
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Originally Posted by soviet View Post
torque, i haz it.
coincidentally, you dont have a 1.6L B6.
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Originally Posted by Techsalvager View Post
the bmw is a parallel twin turbo inline 6
its not compound twin turbo
holy chit

well that totally changes everything else I said then...


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I dont understand why youre still trying to break the laws of physics. Either change your mind, get more displacement/I6/V8, or get a GT12. What youre looking for wont happen with an engine that has less than 100 ci that was designed and built in the 80s

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Ok, no v8, no blower, you must do it with a turbo. Buy the smallest BW EFR turbo they make and put it on a short runner tubular turbo mani, run the lowest volume of charge piping and intercooler you can get away with and use the electronic boost control to get a boost spike as soon as possible and taper it off to protect the engine.
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