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Braineack 02-23-2016 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 1993z32 (Post 1310300)
Would like to compare dyno's if you still have yours available, just out of curiosity.

$150 T3 50 trim chinacharger (compressor wheel plots like a 2554 wheel)
BEGi exhaust manifold
3" exhaust
ms3 (seq. fueling & seq. spark)
93 octane
really horrible $50 460cc rx7 injectors and the stock fuel pump
16° timing in boost

I started adding boost up top, like you, after I did this dyno:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1456245743

Those are corrected number from the dyno dynamics it was run on, but it matched all my other dynojet runs pretty spot on.


overlaying them they are pretty close, i never liked how it spooled on the dyno in this plot, it always logged much more lineraly like yours.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...336ba47c27.png


nice to see someone else not suck at 1.6L though :)

1993z32 02-23-2016 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 1310336)
15 psi -> 75 ft-lbs/atmo/L still too high. Highest numbers I've seen are closer to 70.

So what you're saying is, my motor is safer than this graph says. Perfect!

1993z32 02-23-2016 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1310331)
In my opinion you need to upsize the turbine/hotside/exhaust to keep gaining power the correct way. Upsizing the cold side cover will likely not gain anything at this point.
I'd start with exhaust

Scared of loosing my good spoolup in going to a GT/GTX2860R :(

Decisions. (inb4 "just get a 1.8")

Girz0r 02-23-2016 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by 1993z32 (Post 1310344)
Scared of loosing my good spoolup in going to a GT/GTX2860R :(

Decisions. (inb4 "just get a 1.8")

na breh, reread my comment.

What 18 means is, optimize your exhaust mani & full exhaust... Like what I said.

A doughnut vband 2560 + EWG would be purrfect :likecat: (even if you stick with your 2554)

A GT28, yes you'll loose dat spool. A GTX28 will be 'close' to a 2560 spool but will hit like a hammer later on.

18psi 02-23-2016 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by 1993z32 (Post 1310344)
Scared of loosing my good spoolup in going to a GT/GTX2860R :(

Decisions. (inb4 "just get a 1.8")

you don't have good spoolup anyway.
and yes, you should definitely go 1.8 :)

Originally Posted by 1993z32 (Post 1310342)
So what you're saying is, my motor is safer than this graph says. Perfect!

I love it when I agree with myself and blindly ignore any conflicting info :giggle:

1993z32 02-23-2016 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1310349)
you don't have good spoolup anyway.
and yes, you should definitely go 1.8 :)

I need to drive one of these "good spooling" cars before I go out and buy a motor, manifold, and the rest of allofit. I just wanna fit in anyways :wavey:

1993z32 02-23-2016 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1310292)
My 1.6L $150 T3 had a better tq curve*. and i didnt have all the extra silly fueling mods to support 500hp with a 250rwhp turbo.

thanks for playing.

you lose.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1456251438

Just saying. Those silly fuel mods might be good for something.

18psi 02-23-2016 01:23 PM

He's saying you don't need all those fueling mods, but if you got em, who cares, it's better to have an overbuilt system anyway :)

And don't take the criticism too hard, I'm sure your setup is great, and if you like it then that's all that matters.

It looks like a very solid setup :)
But comments like "better than 1.8" will get trolled :likecat:

1993z32 02-23-2016 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1310392)
He's saying you don't need all those fueling mods, but if you got em, who cares, it's better to have an overbuilt system anyway :)

And don't take the criticism too hard, I'm sure your setup is great, and if you like it then that's all that matters.

It looks like a very solid setup :)
But comments like "better than 1.8" will get trolled :likecat:

Yeah I got it. That's why I love you guys because I can always post something here and get *actual* criticism (and knowledge). I got tired of doing things twice with the fuel system so I wanted to go a little (a lot on the pump) overkill. 750cc doesn't seem too crazy for 250+whp on E85 though does it?

Braineack 02-23-2016 01:49 PM

i think you missed how jovial my post was, and that i already posted the overlay and said you didnt suck at 1.6L.

1993z32 02-23-2016 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1310404)
i think you missed how jovial my post was, and that i already posted the overlay and said you didnt suck at 1.6L.

Maybe I wanted to hear it twice :dealwithit:

Side note, on the logs it definitely looks different, my car spools in 4th on the dyno like 3rd or 2nd on the street. Peak boost on the dyno in 4th is at 36-37 where in 4th on the street it's around 30-31.

18psi 02-23-2016 02:42 PM

that's because the dynojet aint load bearing

deezums 02-23-2016 02:49 PM

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Brian chinaturbo, 1.6 and corn.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1456256961

Taper boost, for 200ft/lbs

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1453073510

Ran out of fuel, need to try again after larger fuel pump.

When I turn it up I imagine I'll have you beat just about everywhere.

1993z32 03-15-2016 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by deezums (Post 1310422)
Brian chinaturbo, 1.6 and corn.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1456256961

Taper boost, for 200ft/lbs


Ran out of fuel, need to try again after larger fuel pump.

When I turn it up I imagine I'll have you beat just about everywhere.

Since you called me out for not replying to your post, it was because it's a VD. Doing a pull on the road compared to a DynoJet yields significantly faster spool up. I'll turn my boost down to 9.5psi and do a 4th gear VD pull on the street and post it up for comparison.

deezums 03-15-2016 02:17 PM

You say t3 doesn't spool, sounds like it's about the same to me. You say you hit full boost at 3200 on the street, I'm at 10 pounds before 3K. This is why I called you out on youtube...

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1451020675

Your budget build would be much easier if you just set a t3 on the taco log. No dumbass shitty adapters held down by swiss cheese home depot bolts to stretch.

1993z32 03-15-2016 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by deezums (Post 1315921)
You say t3 doesn't spool, sounds like it's about the same to me. You say you hit full boost at 3200 on the street, I'm at 10 pounds before 3K. This is why I called you out on youtube...


Your budget build would be much easier if you just set a t3 on the taco log. No dumbass shitty adapters held down by swiss cheese home depot bolts to stretch.

You're acting like I'm building a car for you and charging you for it, chillax. 'Grats on the spool. Tomorrow's video might settle you down a bit.

deezums 03-15-2016 04:14 PM

I'm sorry, I had no idea you degraded into youtube hell so fast you no longer cared to convey useful and truthful data. Another haggard garage, wonderbar.


I won't bother any longer. Carry on.

1993z32 03-15-2016 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by deezums (Post 1315964)
Another haggard garage, wonderbar.

Wow.

1993z32 03-16-2016 09:48 AM


:likecat:

18psi 03-16-2016 09:55 AM

internetz = srs bidness

here, have a cat :likecat:


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