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Old Sep 20, 2012 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by matthewdesigns
If you are non-turbo. 100Kpa is aprox atmospheric pressure.
Sorry that was a typo.
I will post the correct KPA later. It was more like 136 or something like that...
Old Sep 20, 2012 | 07:38 PM
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You have to calibrate your sensor, atmo is 100kpa

full vacuum on deceleration on a stock block is about 18kpa at about 3-4k rpm and idle is about 30kpa.
Old Sep 20, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by triple88a
You have to calibrate your sensor, atmo is 100kpa

full vacuum on deceleration on a stock block is about 18kpa at about 3-4k rpm and idle is about 30kpa.

It wouldn't surprise me if it is off

Does the MS1 have MAP sensor Cal ?

I don't recall seeing that in mega manual ...
Old Oct 13, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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virtual dyno:


dynojet next day:


Notes:
  • virtual dyno I had to choose 99-05 miata to get the 6-speed ratios. My car is a 91. But sure it was with a hardtop and lowered and we can assume it was almost as aerodynamic.
  • Dyno was 1.5psi more boost (later was bumped 1.5psi more + 2* timing to get 400whp)
  • Same gear used in both
  • 'Dynojet' option was used in Virtual Dyno

Even with those differences it's incredibly close
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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that is very neat. the subaru guys already pretty much confirmed this thing works great, I guess the same could be said about miata's....very nice
Old Oct 13, 2012 | 11:34 PM
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Very cool!!

Thanks for sharing that.
Old Oct 13, 2012 | 11:56 PM
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BTW, you can create a custom car profile in VD. So, you can have the 1991 aero + the 6-speed.

Good Lord, that must be a wild ride with 400.
Old Oct 15, 2012 | 06:48 AM
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wow, 130 mph virtual dyno run!
Old Oct 15, 2012 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by hornetball
BTW, you can create a custom car profile in VD. So, you can have the 1991 aero + the 6-speed.
You beat me to it hornet ... nice work.
Old Oct 18, 2012 | 11:23 AM
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Please help me out! Seems like I´m total retard, I cant get this **** right... See my csv. log. 3rd gear pull. What em I missing?
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bbarnhill
You beat me to it hornet ... nice work.
It never seemed to save my custom gear ratios correctly. Was version 1.19 though, haven't tried 1.2 yet.
Old Oct 18, 2012 | 11:45 AM
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jim, like this?
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sturovo
jim, like this?
Something like that.. Just testing with random log. What was wrong with my csv. file?
Old Oct 18, 2012 | 11:51 AM
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I replaced the ; with , in your file as my spread sheet app wouldn't open it correctly and re based time to zero.
Old Apr 2, 2013 | 05:37 PM
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1st it wouldnt open. I changed the titles in the options to the title in the csv.

Now the graph opens (no 101 error) but it wont display data. Something about index zero (see below)

Any ideas or help?

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index 0 is out of range.
Parameter name: index
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlCollection.get _Item(Int32 index)
at VirtualDyno.GraphOther.GraphOtherColumns.PopulateC olumnList()
at VirtualDyno.GraphOther.GraphOtherColumns..ctor(Str ing Filename, DataTable& RunData, String RPMColumnName, String TimeColumnName, String AFRColumnName, Double MinRPM, Double MaxRPM, Object HPPoints, Object TQPoints)
at VirtualDyno.RunControl.cRunControl.btnGraphOtherCo lumns_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventAr gs mevent)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.W ndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5466 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework64/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
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Virtual Dyno
Assembly Version: 1.2.1.3
Win32 Version: 1.2.1.3
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Pnuema%20Productions/Virtual%20Dyno/Virtual%20Dyno.exe
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System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5468 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
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System
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5467 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
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System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5467 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
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ZedGraph
Assembly Version: 5.1.5.28844
Win32 Version: 5.1.5.28844
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Pnuema%20Productions/Virtual%20Dyno/ZedGraph.DLL
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VirtualDyno.Core
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Pnuema%20Productions/Virtual%20Dyno/VirtualDyno.Core.DLL
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System.Data
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_64/System.Data/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Data.dll
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System.Xml
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
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System.Configuration
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
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System.Web.Services
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Web.Services/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Web.Services.dll
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hsjvefu0
Assembly Version: 1.2.1.3
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.5467 (Win7SP1GDR.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
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Ionic.Zip
Assembly Version: 1.7.1.11
Win32 Version: 1.7.1.11
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Pnuema%20Productions/Virtual%20Dyno/Ionic.Zip.DLL
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VirtualDyno.RunControl
Assembly Version: 1.1.1.0
Win32 Version: 1.1.1.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Pnuema%20Productions/Virtual%20Dyno/VirtualDyno.RunControl.DLL
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XPClient
Assembly Version: 2.2.0.18017
Win32 Version: 2.2.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/ASUS/ASUS%20WebStorage/3.0.84.161/XPClient.DLL
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LogicNP.EZNamespaceExtensions
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/ASUS/ASUS%20WebStorage/3.0.84.161/LogicNP.EZNamespaceExtensions.DLL
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eCaremeDLL
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/ASUS/ASUS%20WebStorage/3.0.84.161/eCaremeDLL.DLL
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Microsoft.VisualBasic
Assembly Version: 8.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 8.0.50727.5420 (Win7SP1.050727-5400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Microsoft.VisualBasic/8.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll
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log4net
Assembly Version: 1.2.10.0
Win32 Version: 1.2.10.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/ASUS/ASUS%20WebStorage/3.0.84.161/log4net.DLL
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ZzzzRangeBar
Assembly Version: 1.0.1279.22644
Win32 Version: 1.0.1279.22644
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Pnuema%20Productions/Virtual%20Dyno/ZzzzRangeBar.DLL
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VirtualDyno.GraphOther
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Pnuema%20Productions/Virtual%20Dyno/VirtualDyno.GraphOther.DLL
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************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.
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Old Apr 3, 2013 | 09:07 AM
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Was this log manipulated manually before putting it in Virtual Dyno?
Old Apr 3, 2013 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bbarnhill
Was this log manipulated manually before putting it in Virtual Dyno?
no. Is there any easy change i missed to make it work?
Old Apr 5, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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What logger is this? It has non-numeric data in each data cell. Im going to guess this is from a logger not on the list of supported loggers. If it is let me know what logger this is.
Old Apr 5, 2013 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bbarnhill
What logger is this? It has non-numeric data in each data cell. Im going to guess this is from a logger not on the list of supported loggers. If it is let me know what logger this is.
Hydra 2.7 but saved as a csv. Ill try copying and pasting it into another excel just moving over the final fields. or I could remove all non-numeric data?

(later) after removing all non-numeric data it worked. of course this is time consuming, any way around it?

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Old Apr 8, 2013 | 07:26 PM
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The log example I have from Hydra doesnt have non-numeric data in the fields. Did they change something about the export to CSV?

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