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Leafy 06-27-2013 03:19 PM

Is it possible that they're the wrong pins? I know I ended up with sumitomo pins from you guys (ballenger), eastern beaver, and new united. The new united pins came still connected to the metal terminal strip. I'm trying to think of what ones I used on these connectors, I know I got them from you guys. You know what. My coil harness in this car started as a 94 coil harness and I de-pinned the 4 position sumitomo connectors that fit the 94 coils and replaced them with the 3 position (both DL series) that fit all the 95.5 and up coils. So I probably just stretched em out with my de-pinning tool.

vtjballeng 06-28-2013 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1026000)
Is it possible that they're the wrong pins? I know I ended up with sumitomo pins from you guys (ballenger), eastern beaver, and new united. The new united pins came still connected to the metal terminal strip. I'm trying to think of what ones I used on these connectors, I know I got them from you guys. You know what. My coil harness in this car started as a 94 coil harness and I de-pinned the 4 position sumitomo connectors that fit the 94 coils and replaced them with the 3 position (both DL series) that fit all the 95.5 and up coils. So I probably just stretched em out with my de-pinning tool.

If they were the wrong pins, they might not seat in the housings and make full contact causing arcing. Either way I think the simplest thing to do is to use the CONN-100452 terminals and CONN-00119 seals and you know what you have at that point. Just don't insert anything into the terminal mating area / spring.

General updates: TPS connectors should be in soon. Cam connectors should be in soon. Injector connectors (you can actually use the denso ones we list now, CONN-11655 but with different terminals) will be coming in soon and we will list the Miata version and the more standard denso ones. VICS connectors should be in this fall.

Leafy 06-28-2013 01:42 PM

For the cam connectors? You're going to have the connector, the terminals, the seals, and the terminal lock right? The pins for those dont lock in themselves for of shit and the terminal lock is basically required. I made the mistake of not ordering the locks when I got them from new united because I had no idea it was even required (because navigating their site sucks).

vtjballeng 06-28-2013 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1026355)
For the cam connectors? You're going to have the connector, the terminals, the seals, and the terminal lock right? The pins for those dont lock in themselves for of shit and the terminal lock is basically required. I made the mistake of not ordering the locks when I got them from new united because I had no idea it was even required (because navigating their site sucks).

We offer most housings as housing only, a kit with terminals and seals or a pigtail which is a pre-terminated connector with wire leads. In this case, the cam connector will have the terminals, seals, housing, tpa (terminal position assurance aka terminal lock). The terminals should have clicked in / locked without the tpa though and if they didn't it generally indicates that there was an issue with the crimp preventing proper seating. This can happen if the terminal gets too bent when crimping or mangled or misaligned.

AbeFM 07-04-2013 12:13 PM

Are the VICS pins available? I figured I could get away with a solder connection, but if you have pins to spare then I could repin the connector even if you lack the housing.

thasac 07-09-2013 07:24 PM

Has anyone figured out what the connector is for an auto 1.6 VTPS? It's the last fucking thing I need to source and hours of google searching has yielded nothing.

I reviewed the google docs and the 10(or 11?) pages and didn't see it mentioned.

-Zach

AbeFM 07-16-2013 08:34 PM

We never ended up finding the pin for the dash board connectors, did we Frank?

There's a number of indicator lights on there - unused, and if so, unpopulated (O/D off and ABS on my car) which I'd love to be able to light up.

Also, the schematics show a low fuel light, but I'm not sure where it is. There's a blacked out light above the water temp gauge which I suspect might be it? Its hard to ohm out since it's actually run by the signal from the fuel level sender, not a separate switch. Guess I wouldn't mind having the light if it's already there - would also make a handy shift light given it's proximity to the tach.

Oscar 07-25-2013 04:36 AM

Not sure if it's somewhere in this thread or if I missed it, but the VVT valve fits 100% in the orange evap cannister connector on my 94 NA. Can't believe I spent months looking for the pigtail while I could've taken the OCV and tried every every connector under the hood.

Dumbest thing is, I even have a spare 94 harness which I didn't bother to try. :loser:

AbeFM 07-25-2013 04:02 PM

Wow, that's pretty awesome. Plus, now someone who sells the connector ALSO can sell 94 evap canister connectors. :-)

Where's the connector? By gas tank or under hood?

Oscar 07-25-2013 04:23 PM

Under the hood, pax side near the shock tower. The big loom that's on a bracket has 2 connectors, one yellow and one orange. The latter has the offset ridge on the back that's an exact match for the oil control valve.

It's possibly the best location for that connector to be. If I had a motor in there, I could tell if the loom stretches enough to reach the motor when mounted. This would save you a lot of hassle when swapping the VVT motor into an NA chassis. The only splicing you'd have to do would be CMP and CKP sensors.

Zaphod 07-31-2013 11:09 AM

Wow, nice find Oscar!

(I just had a look - the purge valve ECU pin on my 96 1,6 Euro car should be 2X - this should also apply to all the 1,6 US cars 90-93 - maybe someone could have a look)

Red91 08-24-2013 12:10 PM

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Name that part number. This is a connector I need to mate my 91 inj/clt harness plug with my 01 inj/clt pigtail for my vvt swap. It's also the same plug they use on the harness to connect to the plug on NA headlight motors. I would take my headlight motor plug off my own harness, but scca rules say headlights have to work too, and no cutting of harnesses etc. Anyways it appears to be an AMP 6 position female, but I didn't see it on Ballenger motorsports or any other connector source YET. Any advice is greatly appreciated. I doubt I'll be the last scca member to get vvt swap info from this site so this should be some valuable info to add to this list.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1377360654

vtjballeng 08-25-2013 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Red91 (Post 1046902)
Anyways it appears to be an AMP 6 position female, but I didn't see it on Ballenger motorsports or any other connector source YET. Any advice is greatly appreciated. I doubt I'll be the last scca member to get vvt swap info from this site so this should be some valuable info to add to this list.

We carry the 8 way version, terminals and seals. Don't yet carry the 6 way but can bring it in. Do you need the plug and receptacle or just the plug pictured?

Red91 08-25-2013 09:18 PM

Nah don't worry about it, I'm going to adapt the 91 injector harness instead of trying to use the 01 harness. Thank you though.

vtjballeng 08-29-2013 11:42 AM

More Mazda Miata Connectors added here by request.

Specifically, Cam, TPS, Fuel Injector and Oscar's note that the VVT connector also works on the NA Evap.

At some point need to clear up year ranges etc and update that spreadsheet but it all takes time.

Also had someone looking for EFR turbo connector which should be CONN-85660 for the pigtail or CONN-75660 for the kit.

vtjballeng 11-11-2013 03:38 PM

People asked for it, so we added the Mazda Miata Variable Inertia Charging System Connector (VICS) connector added at the bottom of the Miata specific page here:
Ballenger Motorsports - High Performance Electronics

We don't have a VICS car here, so hopefully someone can check it.

vtjballeng 11-13-2013 11:33 AM

Another update. CAS Connector & 4 Way Ignition coil connector added. Not sure on the year range / option range for the 4 Way coil connector, if someone lets me know I will update it online.

Ballenger Motorsports - High Performance Electronics

The 2 way male & female connectors used for sensor connections like ABS are here but not online yet.

Leafy 11-13-2013 11:35 AM

The 4 way coil connector should be 90-00 IIRC the 01-05 coils use the same connector series but only 3 way.

EO2K 11-13-2013 02:58 PM

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Agreed. The 99/00 coil pack uses a 4 pin connector where only 3 pins are populated.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384372693
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384372693
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I noticed the Ballenger Miata page has the same 3 pin connector listed for 1989 - 2005, but I believe that specific 3 pin connector only fits the 01-05 factory quazi-COPs. I cannot comment on the 89-97 fitment, but I know its wrong for 99/00.

Leafy 11-13-2013 02:59 PM

90-97 connectors are the same as 99-00, except 95.5+ only have 3 of the pins populated.


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