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Let's see:
This one MAF 99-00 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359428466 Is a SUMITOMO SL Series Part.-Nr. 6189-0638 (So it's not the exactly like the Crank position sensor - because that is a DL series connector - but they seem to be interchangeable) http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/en..._s=61890638sls So MAF = checked! This one OEM COP https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359403348 Is also the same SUMITOMO SL Series Part.-Nr. 6189-0638 (You can see that it is the SL series because of that white plastic tab on the side of the connector, see here) https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359444751 http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/en..._s=61890638sls So OEM COP = checked! This one VVT 01 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359403348 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359403348 Is a SUMITOMO SL Series Part.-Nr. 6189-0642 http://www.newunitedracetech.com/sho...ducts/9649.jpg http://www.newunitedracetech.com/sho...01_730_735_736 But also seems to be outdated... So VVT 01 = checked! This one OEM Injectors https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359423235 http://abefm.smugmug.com/Miata/Refer...8_171703-L.jpg Is a SUMITOMO SL Series Part.-Nr. 6189-0651 http://www.newunitedracetech.com/sho...ducts/9651.jpg http://www.newunitedracetech.com/sho...01_730_735_736 But also seems to be outdated... So OEM injectors = checked! To be continued! |
I found a hint on the Gauge cluster connectors - they are also used on a variety of Ford models - I found them on ebay - here:
This is a replacement part - I didn't find anything about the OEM manufacturer. Motorcraft WPT-278 Instrument Panel Connector | eBay Motorcraft WPT278 Instrument panel connector male - at instrument cluster - analog plug a - black - 16 leads $54.86 | Auto Parts Tomorrow Have a look at these prices ... :eek: Here you can find the complete Ford connector list: http://www.fordtechservice.dealercon...torcatalog.pdf Our 3 connectors for the Gauge cluster are (from the back of the gauge cluster left to right) left connector WPT-278 (page 35) http://s3.amazonaws.com/mapn_develop...jpg?1296140881 middle connector WPT-192 (page 30) http://s3.amazonaws.com/mapn_develop...jpg?1296140840 right connector WPT-202 (page 35) http://s3.amazonaws.com/mapn_develop...jpg?1296140845 |
Now, if only we could find matching female connectors for the above cluster connectors.
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Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 973037)
Now, if only we could find matching female connectors for the above cluster connectors.
We might be able if we find the OEM manufacturer of the connectors... I did search a good bit with zero findings... |
Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 973031)
I found a hint on the Gauge cluster connectors - they are also used on a variety of Ford models - I found them on ebay - here:
Our 3 connectors for the Gauge cluster are (from the back of the gauge cluster left to right) left connector WPT-278 (page 35) http://s3.amazonaws.com/mapn_develop...jpg?1296140881 I wonder how hard it is to de-pin, and, really, where one finds pins that fit it. I'm not sure that much on there is very sensitive, anyway (i.e. you could probably just splice into it without huge effect but your oil pressure looking 1% low), but it would make things much, much better.
Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 973037)
Now, if only we could find matching female connectors for the above cluster connectors.
---------------------- Speaking of - while I don't have the wiring diagram in front of me, it seems the main engine/harness connectors (there's a couple, right, like 6 pin and whatnot) are the things the PnP people want. Instead of putting a connector to mate each injector and each coil then another to go to the new coils, wouldn't you rather have a big, 6 or 12 or whatever pin connector with your engine harness on it? Totally seems the way to go. Still plug and play, but very clean! Do we have those? |
I've used a Deutsch 6-pin DTM connector for my coil wires after the first owner completely borked the wiring with a crappy link piggyback install. Works like a champ. The only problem is the $250 crimping tool for the solid pins. They do have sheet metal pins, though.
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Originally Posted by AbeFM
(Post 973278)
Speaking of - while I don't have the wiring diagram in front of me, it seems the main engine/harness connectors (there's a couple, right, like 6 pin and whatnot) are the things the PnP people want. Instead of putting a connector to mate each injector and each coil then another to go to the new coils, wouldn't you rather have a big, 6 or 12 or whatever pin connector with your engine harness on it? Totally seems the way to go. Still plug and play, but very clean!
Do we have those? |
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Originally Posted by Leafy
(Post 973286)
I know I found one of them, the one for the coil and injector harness. Someone will have to confirm what is the same as the 94 and what isnt but the connector on the sub harness side is the sumitomo 6P090WP-DL-Female Connector.
Hers the post: https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...36/#post170441 As I have a 99-00 BUT 1,6 B6 Euro modell which didn't make it to the US it's different from the 99-00 BP 1,9. The 1,6 99-00 have a common connector that sits on back of the left engine side and is about 35cm long. It has a 6-pin Sumitomo connector on one end and 2 3-pin sumitomo connectors on the other end at the coils. (left upper side of the picture, right connector) https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359542196 Looks like this inside This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 799x600. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359542196 You can pull the orange part out with the help of a screwdriver, has two notches on top which hold it in place At the underside of the old pins inside you have also little notches, same system as the new coil-connectors use. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359542196 Push them down and you can pull the old cables out. This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 799x600. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359542196 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359542196 Now you can use the Braineack pins on the new harness and just push them in. Works! https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359542196 Then you simly push the orange part on again! https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359542196 Now you got a plug and play harness. This connector is a SUMITOMO DL sealed series Part.-Nr. 6195-0021 I don't know if any of the other or older models got a similar connector. The 99-00 BP has got the "common connector" called X-15 (see wiring schematics) http://www.madracki.com/miata/images...g/2000wire.pdf at the front of the engine, that seems to hold the +12V and trigger signal for the coils, but not the grounds... http://www.ingenieure-reichel.de/upl...oils_99-00.jpg |
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I did find a part.-nr. for the instrument cluster connector terminals - but I have no chance to find a part.-nr. for the housings...
Part.Nr. Terminals: D5AB-14474-FA Terminal Supply Company - Product Detail : TERMINALS & CONNECTORS -> TERMINALS -> TERMINALS - FORD -> D5AB-14474-FA https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359561911 |
Are you guys using a special depin tool, or a paperclip to get these pins out? I have never had great, reliable success depinning things.
Reveal to me your secrets! ;) |
Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 973383)
You can pull the orange part out with the help of a screwdriver, has two notches on top which hold it in place
At the underside of the old pins inside you have also little notches, same system as the new coil-connectors use. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359542196
Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 973383)
Now you can use the Braineack pins on the new harness and just push them in. Works!
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359542196
Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 973383)
The 99-00 BP has got the "common connector" called X-15
(see wiring schematics) http://www.madracki.com/miata/images...g/2000wire.pdf at the front of the engine, that seems to hold the +12V and trigger signal for the coils, but not the grounds... http://www.ingenieure-reichel.de/upl...oils_99-00.jpg
Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 973440)
I did find a part.-nr. for the instrument cluster connector terminals - but I have no chance to find a part.-nr. for the housings...
Part.Nr. Terminals: D5AB-14474-FA Terminal Supply Company - Product Detail : TERMINALS & CONNECTORS -> TERMINALS -> TERMINALS - FORD -> D5AB-14474-FA https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359561911 Perhaps I should make separate section for pins. We could certainly add a collum for it, then down below list them. |
<wrong thread. Oooops>
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@Abe - you can un-pin most connectors quite easily with such a un-pin tool
Tools https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1359616588 Those connectors are made to be un-pinned and re-pinned. With a little experience its easy. Here is a Youtube "How-to" - the connector is not exactly like ours but you get the idea. "Braineack-Pin" is out of the COP-Thread, I think Brain suggested a terminal for the COP connectors to use (which wasn't quite the correct one - but did work.) |
there are better pins to use than the ones for the COP thread. those were never correct.
Ill pull it up today I have them at home. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 973824)
there are better pins to use than the ones for the COP thread. those were never correct.
Ill pull it up today I have them at home. |
Well I got my connectors in from eastern beaver and new united. the AMP 2P is NOT the IAC, and the VICS solenoid is NOT the SUMITOMO 2P040WP-HX-F. Any other ideas on those?
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Sorry everyone! I had some travel and haven't been paying attention. Want to help figure this out now.
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 973824)
there are better pins to use than the ones for the COP thread. those were never correct.
Ill pull it up today I have them at home.
Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 974155)
Well for a start we could use the correct ones from Sumitomo or Yazaki, now that we have the part.-nr.s... :loser:
Originally Posted by Leafy
(Post 978289)
Well I got my connectors in from eastern beaver and new united. the AMP 2P is NOT the IAC, and the VICS solenoid is NOT the SUMITOMO 2P040WP-HX-F. Any other ideas on those?
I wonder if Mazdacomp would be any help? *I do worry about breaking the connectors - sometimes they can be pretty brittle. My idea is just to try, replace what I break - but I'd like to know what will/had break so I only have to order once. |
Originally Posted by Leafy
(Post 978289)
Well I got my connectors in from eastern beaver and new united. the AMP 2P is NOT the IAC, and the VICS solenoid is NOT the SUMITOMO 2P040WP-HX-F. Any other ideas on those?
in post nr. 35 I identified the IAC connector as AMP SSC (Sealed Sensor Connector) System connector Part.-Nr. 184000-1 The AMP connector from Eastern Beaver is a Econoseal series connector. and in post nr. 52 I assumed that the VICS connector is a SUMITOMO 62 sealed series connector Sumitomo 62 sealed series 090(2.3mm) 2 Position Female Housing [Gray] [6098-0135] : New United Race Tech, New United Race Tech Though I mus say that I am not sure about the that one... Greets |
That 62 series looks closer to the VICS, what I believe is preventing that one from going on is the two keys to either side of the lock. I think if I modified the connector I could make it fit. But now I've got to try to find places to buy those connectors, which wont be as easy.
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Leafy:
Have you thought about - once we know for sure which connector is which - picking up replacement pins and getting a junkyard/used connector? Lots of people have old harnesses around, and many people "take off" VICS, so there should be plenty of connectors around. 2-Way Receptacle Kit Is that the one? If so, add it to spread sheet and order it. :-) |
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